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vcs316
11th March 2010, 14:15
Ferrari F10 - secured wheel nuts

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9785/wheelr.jpg

The sight of an errant wheel from Fernando Alonso's Renault bouncing across the track at the 2009 Hungarian Grand Prix, prompted the FIA to impose new rules this season to ensure wheel nuts remain fastened. Ferrari's solution has been to create an entirely new wheel hub, which features a catch either side of the nut that locks into position (see inset) when the mechanic removes his tyre gun following the wheel change.

source - formula1.com

vcs316
11th March 2010, 14:17
Ferrari F10 - aerodynamic wheel device

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9315/nut.png

For the 2010 season the FIA have outlawed the carbon fibre wheel fairings that became so popular in 2009. In a move that may be seen as going against the spirit of the regulations (but which has been approved by the FIA), Ferrari have instead incorporated an integral aero device (inset - yellow rings) into the design of their wheel rim. The device is detachable (main drawing), but to be legal it is made from the same material as the rim itself. As wheel rims have to be homologated and can't be changed during the season, Ferrari's rivals will be unable to copy this.

source - formula1.com

vcs316
11th March 2010, 14:21
Ferrari F10 - angled engine mounting

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4904/enginea.jpg

To create more room for a larger double diffuser, the F10 has its engine is mounted at a 3.5 degree angle (1). As a result, the exhaust pipe vents are located nearer the front of the car (2) than before, creating more space for a large chamber on the central diffuser. Interestingly there is a historical precedent for this approach - back in 1970, Arrows designer Tony Southgate mounted the engine of the sophisticated A2 at an angle of four degrees (bottom drawing).

source - formula1.com

DonXabi
11th March 2010, 14:23
There are some really good photos of this on the F10 forum page of the F1technical.net web site - Ferrari literally have re-designed the wheel!

The rear ones especially appear to have quite a wide 'rim' on them.

Do we know if the FIA have looked at them and deemed them legal?? I am guessing there are no issues as no-one seems to have been jumping up and down like RB have over McLarens rear wing.

On the subject of the new wheel 'nut' - the conical shape and the multi-facited base is going to make it so much quicker to get the gun on during pit-stops. In a season where these are going to be mind-blowingly quick, every 1/10th gained is going to be vital.

vcs316
11th March 2010, 14:23
Ferrari F60/F10 - exhaust comparison

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5872/exhaustf.jpg

To ensure the exhaust pipe vents as far away from the rear wing as possible, Ferrari have reverted to a solution they used five seasons ago on the F2005. In contrast to the design of last year's car (see main picture, black arrow), the pipes have been mounted so they'll vent nearer the front of the car, rather than the back (see inset, black arrow).

source - formula1.com

DonXabi
11th March 2010, 14:27
Rumours abound that Adrain Newey has the exhausts exiting through the floor of the new Red Bull to increase air blowing across the DD...........not sure if it is true - but an intersting thought...........

Curbs
11th March 2010, 14:53
Rumours abound that Adrain Newey has the exhausts exiting through the floor of the new Red Bull to increase air blowing across the DD...........not sure if it is true - but an intersting thought...........

Yep, thats true.
Seen here. They evn painted fake-exhausts higher up on the bodywork.
http://scarbsf1.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/redbull_exhaust.jpg?w=300&h=300

vcs316
11th March 2010, 14:55
Please keep this thread about the Ferrari F10 :-)

Stormsearcher
11th March 2010, 18:05
Ferrari F10 - aerodynamic wheel device

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9315/nut.png

For the 2010 season the FIA have outlawed the carbon fibre wheel fairings that became so popular in 2009. In a move that may be seen as going against the spirit of the regulations (but which has been approved by the FIA), Ferrari have instead incorporated an integral aero device (inset - yellow rings) into the design of their wheel rim. The device is detachable (main drawing), but to be legal it is made from the same material as the rim itself. As wheel rims have to be homologated and can't be changed during the season, Ferrari's rivals will be unable to copy this.

source - formula1.com

Am sorry, that was a bit technical. I didnt understand why the other teams cant copy the design. Can you explain.

Scoob_13
11th March 2010, 18:47
Am sorry, that was a bit technical. I didnt understand why the other teams cant copy the design. Can you explain.

Because you can't homologate a wheel outside of a certain time frame - the next one being after the end of the season.

di44ety
12th March 2010, 09:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQAZj2mXD5A

DonXabi
12th March 2010, 11:27
This is a great animation and shows the wheels and engine angle nicely.........how long before Ferrari get an F-Tube snorkel to stall the rear wing?

Now it has been deemed legal by the FIA, Maranello must be a hive of activity to get something simialr for the F10.

Brakefade
12th March 2010, 21:39
Yep, thats true.
Seen here. They evn painted fake-exhausts higher up on the bodywork.
http://scarbsf1.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/redbull_exhaust.jpg?w=300&h=300

This is still hot high pressure air comming from the exhaust though. And underneath the car you want to create a low pressure zone. I guess the hot exhaust helps speed the air up, thus helping the diffuser be more efficient. But I have a feeling this is only a slight improvement over a conventional diffuser design, as the air from the exhaust is sitll hot/high pressure, and that might negate a lot of the advantage that can be gained from speeding the air up. I bet Ferrari's design, with the 3.5 degree tilt on the engine, is much more efficient.


EDIT: Actually looking at the pic again, RBs exhaust doesn't even feed into the diffuser. I think Adrian just didn't want the exhaust messing up his aero work on top.

Tommy_F
22nd March 2010, 17:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prVKuTFpks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juth_B-bi1k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLYDnPhmFv4

Lots of videos like these here: http://www.youtube.com/user/YellowbirdRS#g/u

Videos go way back to '08, 1st one is about the whole in the nose of the car.

Stormsearcher
22nd March 2010, 18:24
This is so cool. But the video showed a rear wing split like the Mccheaters. Is this whats to come or already on the car? Or have i gotten it all wrong?

vcs316
27th March 2010, 02:46
Melbourne – the low down on the latest tech ideas

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/wp-content/uploads/F10-front-wing-Melbourne-300x224.jpg

The Ferrari wing has a new endplate with a smaller vertical fin, outside the end plates, featuring an S shaped vertical profile, instead of a straight one. It is about 5cm lower than the previous version. It’s main function is to give less pitch sensitivity. Although this wing gives slightly less downforce than the previous version, it causes less turbulence in airflow around and under the car and works better with the new wheel fairings.

On Friday in Melbourne only Alonso used it, but both drivers will use it for the rest of the weekend.

Courtesy - Jamesallenonf1.com

Tommy_F
29th March 2010, 06:21
I've read the technical report from the 1st gp and from Australia and they both mention that we changed "Protective tape over rear laser lens" during parc ferme.

What could this rear laser lens be?

http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/post_event.aspx

voiko
30th March 2010, 09:17
is anyone aware of any updates for the car for Sepang or will it be the same as Aus?

Greig
30th March 2010, 09:34
I've read the technical report from the 1st gp and from Australia and they both mention that we changed "Protective tape over rear laser lens" during parc ferme.

What could this rear laser lens be?

http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/post_event.aspx

rain light?

vcs316
11th April 2010, 18:03
Malaysia 2010 updates

Ferrari F10 - new floor

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4826/floor.jpg

Ferrari tested a new floor in Malaysia that included an opening in front of the rear tyres, something only McLaren have had from the beginning of the season. Its purpose is to feed air to the side channel of the rear diffuser in order to increase its efficiency. This solution was taken off the Ferrari on Saturday at Sepang, but we will probably see it again in China. The team also introduced cooling vanes beside the cockpit due to the hot conditions, but again these were not used on Saturday.

source - formula1.com

Rob
11th April 2010, 19:02
:thumb nice 1. Lets hope they run them at China, all little updates help, im sure they collected the data they need to run it.

Agron
11th April 2010, 19:32
I've read the technical report from the 1st gp and from Australia and they both mention that we changed "Protective tape over rear laser lens" during parc ferme.

What could this rear laser lens be?

http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/post_event.aspxrain light?Ray of light? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4tD8dy9Reg&feature=fvw)

voiko
11th April 2010, 23:00
Is it me or has Ferrari been awfully quiet this year about updates so far? I see new innovations popping up in threads and when people have spied them but usually i thought we were more vocal about these sorts of things? Im not saying its necessarily a bad thing, as long as they are continuing.

voiko
15th April 2010, 22:44
I noticed that on the mirrors i china we have actually left the aero device that feeds vetrtically down to the floor but also attahced the mirrors to the body of the car so it would give less vibration etc which is what the other drivers were complaining about wernt they? did we successfully get around this issue without having to remove our aero?

Tommy_F
17th April 2010, 16:06
http://i44.tinypic.com/29dv9rt.jpg

In China Ferrari were the second team, after BMW Sauber, to introduce a system similar to McLaren's solution to reduce rear wing drag and downforce on straights. Mercedes and Williams have also trialled systems this weekend. Other changes on the Ferrari include a new underbody behind the front wing (1) and a new double-decked floor (2) similar to the one used by Renault in Malaysia. The F10's diffuser also has a revised central section. Compared to the McLaren, the only feature missing from the Ferrari is the British team's 'F-duct', which allows the drivers to control the level of downforce generated by the rear wing at high speeds. And instead of splitting the airbox in two like on the MP4-25, the F10 has two small openings (3) similar to the ones on Force India's VJM03. Like on the McLaren, however, there are two distinct airflows. One flows (bottom yellow line) to the top of the diffuser's leading edge (4) via a pipe. The other (top yellow line) flows on to the rear wing flap (5), which features a slot like on the McLaren. Fernando Alonso tested the items on Friday to collect data, which will be used to build a final version of the solution for next month's Spanish Grand Prix.

source (http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2010/827/741.html)

vcs316
18th April 2010, 10:00
China 2010 updates

Ferrari F10 - modified rear wing

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/711/rearwing.jpg

Although Ferrari's version of McLaren's rear aero package doesn't yet feature an interpretation of the MP4-25's driver-controlled F-duct system, most of the new F10 components are very similar to the British team's solution. Not only is air directed on to the rear wing's flap, which features a slot, but it also flows on to the top of the diffuser's leading edge via a pipe (see red arrow). Fernando Alonso tested this solution during Friday practice for the Chinese Grand Prix.

source - formula1.com

Tommy_F
28th April 2010, 16:13
F10 steering wheel explained:

http://www.ferrari.com/English/Ferrari_TV/Pages/FerrariTVPlayer.aspx?serverId=15716&c=Video

Ste
28th April 2010, 17:13
F10 steering wheel explained:

http://www.ferrari.com/English/Ferrari_TV/Pages/FerrariTVPlayer.aspx?serverId=15716&c=Video

Awesome, thanks Tommy. I've been looking for an insight into our wheel since the cars release. :thumb

vcs316
11th May 2010, 15:07
Ferrari F10 - 'F-duct' system

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7765/fduct.jpg

In Barcelona Ferrari have introduced a full version of their 'F-duct' system. In principle, it is the same as McLaren's original design, apart from the way it is controlled by the drivers. The air streams in from one of the new side ducts on the engine cover and is then channelled into the cockpit via the electronics cable hole (white arrow). The driver can then activate the system by blocking the hole at the side of the steering wheel with the back of his left hand. As we saw from onboard footage, this can interfere with the driver adjusting the car's brake balance, which is usually carried out with the same hand. This forces the driver to race for a fraction of a second without their hand on the steering wheel.

source - formula1.com

Tommy_F
15th May 2010, 05:09
Monaco Updates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIifaXCwDCA&playnext_from=TL&videos=7KhOGqCK_4I&feature=sub

vcs316
15th May 2010, 10:08
Thanks Tommy :-)

DonXabi
17th May 2010, 13:46
Monaco Updates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIifaXCwDCA&playnext_from=TL&videos=7KhOGqCK_4I&feature=sub

Is it showing anything different when it pauses over the front suspension?

HalfVector
17th May 2010, 14:41
Is it showing anything different when it pauses over the front suspension?

It says that for Monaco the suspensions have been reinforced just in case the car touches the protections, which is something very common in Monaco.

vcs316
5th June 2010, 06:44
Turkey Updates

Ferrari F10 - revised F-duct control (a)

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1007/fducta.jpg

Ferrari have revised the layout of their F-duct system for Turkey, in particular the mechanism by which the driver controls it. In Barcelona the driver was closing the hole using the back of his left hand (inset), a manoeuvre that was not very comfortable for Alonso, and even less so for Massa, who has his steering wheel positioned further forward and hence actually had to take his hand off the wheel. In Istanbul, the hole is now closed with the driver's left leg and here you can see the pipe inside the chassis, very similar to the McLaren's.

credit - formula1.com

vcs316
5th June 2010, 06:45
Ferrari F10 - revised F-duct control (b)

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5281/fductb.jpg

Ferrari have revised the layout of their F-duct system for Turkey, in particular the mechanism by which the driver controls it. In Barcelona the driver was closing the hole using the back of his left hand, a manoeuvre that was not very comfortable for Alonso, and even less so for Massa, who has his steering wheel positioned further forward and hence actually had to take his hand off the wheel. In Istanbul, the hole is now closed with the driver's left leg, very similar to the McLaren's.

Rob
5th June 2010, 19:46
:thumb thanks for posting, didnt realise Felipe had his steering wheel positioned like that.

Suzie
5th June 2010, 23:33
Me neither :thumb Goes someway to explaining his issues in Spain.

vcs316
14th June 2010, 16:00
Montreal, Canada Updates

Ferrari F10 - enlarged brake ducts

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3721/brake.jpg

Montreal is the toughest circuit for brakes - that's the reason everybody is very keen to produce bigger brake ducts to improve cooling here, as you can see with this Ferrari front duct. In addition, it is critical to choose the right friction materials for the brake pads and discs in order to cope with the high levels of heat and wear. Ferrari, as is their tradition for the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, have temporarily swapped from Brembo to Carbon Industries products, as used by the likes of McLaren and Williams.

credit - formula1.com

vcs316
29th July 2010, 14:32
Valencia, Europe Updates

Ferrari F10 - exhaust-blown diffuser

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8839/diffeurope.jpg

Ferrari have made radical changes for Valencia, introducing their version of Red Bull's exhaust-blown diffuser. They have dramatically modified the shape of their exhausts, from the previous design (1), to a lower, more RB6-inspired layout (2). They've also introduced a new gearbox case to Felipe Massa's car to raise the rear suspension pick-up points to help accommodate the changes. There's also a larger radiator layout (3) to handle the additional heat within the lower and more enclosed bodywork. Inset, you can see the exhaust on the F10 is shorter, and therefore ends before Red Bull's.

credit - formula1.com

vcs316
29th July 2010, 14:36
Silverstone, Great Britain Updates

Ferrari F10 - revised front wing

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6781/frontwingrevised.jpg

For the first time this season, Ferrari have introduced a double-flap solution on their front wing at Silverstone to increase downforce. The previous, single-flap solution can be seen in the top drawing and the new version in the bottom drawing. Of particular interest is the more sophisticated shape of the profiles, which rise up in the middle section of the wing (see red arrows in bottom drawing).

credit - formula1.com

vcs316
29th July 2010, 14:40
Hockenheim, Germany Updates

Ferrari F10 - revised exhaust system

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/3544/revdif.jpg

Following on from the new front and rear wings introduced at Silverstone, in Hockenheim Ferrari have brought refinements to the F10's exhaust system and modified the side channels of their diffuser. Inset is the first evolution of the exhaust system, introduced in Valencia, whilst the main drawing shows the more open configuration being used in Germany. Strong qualifying times suggest the changes mean the team's F-duct, floor and blown diffuser are now working in much closer unison.

credit - formula1.com

vcs316
7th August 2010, 07:36
Hungaroring, Hungary Updates

Ferrari F10 - modified rear diffuser

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8735/diffhungary.jpg

This drawing from Hungary shows how Ferrari's diffuser has been modified to deal with the exhaust air now blowing under the floor, with the element just inside the rear tyres (1) now curved. The diffuser's side channels (2), which used to be more vertical in shape, are now also curved. The modifications are designed to use the air from the exhaust to better effect.

credit - formula1.com

Rob
7th August 2010, 08:47
nice 1 thanks Vee. Great to see picture and read the updates.

vcs316
24th October 2010, 11:19
Spa Francochamps, Belgium Updates

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9009/belferrarif10updateddif.jpg

In Belgium, Ferrari have been running a modified diffuser and floor, which are similar to the ones used by McLaren and Renault. The size of the longitudinal inlet is shown clearly by the amount of visible road surface (see area highlighted in yellow). There are two longitudinal fairings in order to respect the rule dimensions.


http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4530/ferrarif10revisedrearwi.jpg

Ferrari have brought a new lower-downforce rear wing to Belgium, which will be used by Felipe Massa during qualifying and in the race. The revised endplates feature Red Bull-inspired gills, while the wing's main profile has a smaller flap and no longer features a slot.

vcs316
24th October 2010, 11:22
Monza, Italy Updates

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8242/itaferrarif10revisedrea.jpg

Ferrari's Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa ran different rear aero packages on their cars at the last round in Spa. But at Monza, the Italian team are running the same low-downforce package on both F10s. The rear wing is fitted with a revised F-duct, which features a much smaller pipe inside the engine cover. In addition, the endplates no longer have gills and the main plane and flap have a smaller chord.

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/386/itaferrarif10updatedfro.jpg

Both Ferraris are also a running revised front wing at Monza as part of the team's low-downforce package for this circuit. It features an almost straight main plane (2), and the main flap (1) and upper flap (3) both have a far lower angle of incidence than seen at most tracks.

vcs316
24th October 2010, 11:23
Singapore Updates

Ferrari F10 - front wing variations

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7539/singferrarif10frontwing.jpg

The Ferrari drivers had three different front wings to choose from on Friday at Marina Bay - a Monaco-spec, a Silverstone-spec and a new Singapore-spec. Felipe Massa tested the new one, but spent more time on the Monaco version with its single flap. Fernando Alonso alternated between the Silverstone and Singapore specs, which differ only in the small fin on the outside of the endplate, which has been moved backwards by around 8cm. Both drivers went on to qualify and race with the new wing. Ferrari also have a new floor, revised in the tea-tray section.

vcs316
24th October 2010, 11:25
Suzuka, Japan Updates

Ferrari F10 - modified diffuser

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9717/japb.jpg

In Japan Ferrari are using a slightly modified version of the diffuser they introduced at August's Belgian Grand Prix. A small omega-shaped wing (black arrow) has been added on top of the deformable structure to boost downforce slightly. The front and rear wings being used at Suzuka are virtually the same as those run by Ferrari at the last round in Singapore, but with some small changes to the front wing's second flap.

vcs316
24th October 2010, 11:28
Korea Updates

Ferrari F10 - modified rear diffuser

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9456/koream.jpg

In Korea, Ferrari have introduced the biggest evolution to the F10's diffuser since its major update at Spa. The new-look diffuser (main drawing) is visibly different in its central section from its previous incarnation (inset). The top (1) and the bottom (2) profiles are now more curved to improve the extraction of air from the bottom of the car. The side channels now feature just one large middle plate, in place of the older version which was much smaller (3).

hudson77
24th October 2010, 17:37
Thanks for the new info VCS316, much appreciated. :thumb