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epiclyaddicted
8th July 2010, 16:47
Safety car procedures revamped

The FIA will introduce new safety car procedures from the British Grand Prix on Sunday in a bid to prevent a repeat of the controversy in Valencia a fortnight ago, AUTOSPORT has learned.

FIA race director Charlie Whiting met with the sporting directors of the teams at Silverstone on Wednesday to discuss clearing up the safety car regulations after the issues that were brought up at the European Grand Prix.

Several ideas were discussed - including closing the pitlane completely during safety car spells - but AUTOSPORT understands that agreement has been reached simply to slow the F1 cars down much more than before under the safety car.

Instead of operating to a 'delta' time of 120% of a regular F1 lap before the cars form up behind the safety car, as under the old regulations, drivers will instead be forced to slow down to the actual estimated speed of the safety car itself.

The idea of slowing cars this much will be to ensure there is no possibility of a driver overtaking the safety car – as Lewis Hamilton did on the run out of the first corner at Valencia.

Drivers are due to conduct experiments with the new delta time after free practice at Silverstone on Friday and Saturday, with the new delta time being used for the first time in the race on Sunday unless any unforeseen major problems after thrown up beforehand.

The slower delta time will prevent drivers getting a benefit by being ahead of the safety car on road.

The FIA has also reacted to the problems drivers had of breaking the delta time in Valencia, after only finding out about the safety car towards the end of the lap, by making it clear that they will be exempt from the new safety car speed limit for the final 200 metres of the lap.

Williams driver Rubens Barrichello, who was penalised in Valencia, said it was hard for drivers to react immediately to the lights telling them to slow down.

"You are coming flat out at maybe 285km/h and the lights on the steering wheel only appear.. I could only see by the time that I was entering the pitlane," he said. "You have the engineer talking to you.

"It's very hard to take it. I just think that the rule can go your way one day and another day it won't. They are there for the safety so we need to for the best reasonable way of safety."

From Autosport (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85072)

I think, for now, it's not a bad change. But for the long term, why not just go back to the old closing the pits again?

REDARMYSOJA
8th July 2010, 17:08
More stupidity and unneeded complication. Just freeze the field and close the pits, problem solved.

WS6TransAm01
8th July 2010, 17:46
More stupidity and unneeded complication. Just freeze the field and close the pits, problem solved.

what if a car is damaged? cant come in for 3-4 laps... not good...

Pit's cant be closed. The problem is when the safety car comes out behind the leader and picks up the 3rd or 4th or whatever guy and has to wave people on. It wastes time.

Just have the safety car pick up the leading driver... how hard can it be! They can figure it out in NASCAR.

REDARMYSOJA
8th July 2010, 18:06
what if a car is damaged? cant come in for 3-4 laps... not good...

Pit's cant be closed. The problem is when the safety car comes out behind the leader and picks up the 3rd or 4th or whatever guy and has to wave people on. It wastes time.

Just have the safety car pick up the leading driver... how hard can it be! They can figure it out in NASCAR.

Of course the exception will be made for cars damaged, that's a given. I don't think picking up the lead car is so easy on a road or street circuit. Plus, the priority, as at Valencia, is the medical car reaching the scene of the crash to secure it and the driver(s) involved. If the field is frozen and pits closed, there no need to do anything but slow down immediatly. Sorting out getting the SC in front of the leader can then be done.

RedDragon
8th July 2010, 21:55
I agree. Close the pits (except for damages), freeze the field, and if the safety car comes out in the middle of the field, they should just "blue flag" the cars ahead of the SC, letting it work it's way to the front.

DBXdarkangel
8th July 2010, 22:35
Shamilton will break some other rule at silversone anyways. Like doing donuts lastyear and not keeping a proper gap behind the saftey car the year before...

killer
9th July 2010, 01:34
When SC is needed:

1. Drivers are notified immediately; field is frozen
2. Pits are closed.
3. SC picks up the leader.

One question though: what's the best way to deal with a driver who is in the pits when the SC is deployed? Last place, no? Anyone think this can lead to a controversy? Last few laps, leader has a big margin to 2nd but suddenly has to pit... he comes in expecting to retain position but there's an accident and the SC is deployed.This set up may (inadvertently) result in providing officials yet another avenue for affecting the outcome of a race. Any ideas?

Brakefade
9th July 2010, 02:14
Just impose a speed limit of 100 KPH. No need for a SC. Field is frozen, gaps are maintained, and as long as you pit you shouldn't lose your place.

ali355
9th July 2010, 08:37
With no refueling in-race, the only reason you would pit when the Safety Car is out if your car isnt damaged would be for tyres. So why not ban tyre changes (apart from punctures etc) when the Safety Car is out? That way those with damage can safely come in, and the others would just stay out.

dfunk257
9th July 2010, 09:06
omg this is ridiculous!

epiclyaddicted
9th July 2010, 10:40
With no refueling in-race, the only reason you would pit when the Safety Car is out if your car isnt damaged would be for tyres. So why not ban tyre changes (apart from punctures etc) when the Safety Car is out? That way those with damage can safely come in, and the others would just stay out.

I think that is a very good proposition, nice and simple, and doesn't leave too much room for controversies.

MS7XWDC
9th July 2010, 17:49
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8541/eyetvsnapshot33.jpg

SC line #1 in Silverstone. SC line #1 is now marked with one board.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3835/eyetvsnapshot34.jpg

SC line #2 in Silverstone. The SC line #2 is now marked with two board.

RedDragon
9th July 2010, 18:24
When SC is needed:

1. Drivers are notified immediately; field is frozen
2. Pits are closed.
3. SC picks up the leader.

One question though: what's the best way to deal with a driver who is in the pits when the SC is deployed? Last place, no? Anyone think this can lead to a controversy? Last few laps, leader has a big margin to 2nd but suddenly has to pit... he comes in expecting to retain position but there's an accident and the SC is deployed.This set up may (inadvertently) result in providing officials yet another avenue for affecting the outcome of a race. Any ideas?

If someone is in the pits, just add the time for the stop to his time. With all the timing gadgets they have, they should be able to figure out what position someone should be in without too much trouble. (Of course, we are talking about the FIA, so maybe not ;-))