2023 Australian Grand Prix - Race Thread

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2nd April 2023, 08:38
Greig

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Originally Posted by brucewayne

You are not a Ferrari Fan. You should start supporting McLaren again. It was clear that Sainz would get a penalty. Please read what I am writing and stop trolling. You should send yourself a warning.

I am not the one who supports one side of the garage, or cries for our driver to get a penalty. McLaren are welcome to you.
2nd April 2023, 08:39
tifosi1993

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Originally Posted by brucewayne

I can understand the penalty, but it still makes no sense to start again. This is not fair for Sainz and the Alpines.

What is there to understand? It was a textbook first lap racing incident. Same reason why ******* Stroller got off at the beginning after hitting Charles
2nd April 2023, 08:40
nani_s23

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Originally Posted by tifosi1993

Grow a pair Ferrari and protest this **** decision.

Ferrari in F1 just to take prize money. They lost their power long way back.
2nd April 2023, 08:40
stefa

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Originally Posted by Greig

Joke of a penalty, racing is dead in F1.

Long time ago!
2nd April 2023, 08:42
nani_s23

I feel sad for Charles, not the best season for him

DNF is Bahrain
Penalty in Jeddah
DNF in Australia and with Ferrari reliability/Strategy errors more to come as the season progresses.
2nd April 2023, 08:42
brucewayne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greig

I am not the one who supports one side of the garage, or cries for our driver to get a penalty. McLaren are welcome to you.

No one cried for a penalty, we knew what was happening. You don’t seem to watch F1 very often. This accident is a penalty in 9/10 times.

You are ok with rooting for poor performances, so McLaren is the team for you. You are no Tifosi.
2nd April 2023, 08:43
nani_s23

Sainz did his best, as I said many a times in F1 you need some luck along with car.
Unfortunately ferrari is at the opposite end of the above.
2nd April 2023, 08:43
tifosi1993

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Originally Posted by nani_s23

Ferrari in F1 just to take prize money. They lost their power long way back.

Whatever. If they don't protest this ****, then they shouldn't be in F1. Carlos deserved to be on the podium, let alone in the points. What happened today is totally unacceptable.
2nd April 2023, 08:43
Greig

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucewayne

No one cried for a penalty, we knew what was happening. You don’t seem to watch F1 very often. This accident is a penalty in 9/10 times.

You are ok with rooting for poor performances, so McLaren is the team for you. You are no Tifosi.

Can you name same penalties for t1 race start penalties. Let's see them McLaren fan.

You think Carlos was a poor performance today? yeah head to McLaren already.
2nd April 2023, 08:44
brucewayne

Was Max even in his Box at the start? Maybe that’s a penalty…
2nd April 2023, 08:47
brucewayne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greig

Can you name same penalties for t1 race start penalties. Let's see them McLaren fan.

You think Carlos was a poor performance today? yeah head to McLaren already.

Dude, you are already a McLaren Fan. We are Ferrari, we should compete with RB. Until then, I am not satisfied. You seem to be ok with P4/P5/P6. This is not what a Tifosi is looking for. So yeah, a good result for your McLarens I guess…
2nd April 2023, 08:48
tifosi1993

What a nightmare start this season been so far.
2nd April 2023, 08:48
nani_s23

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Originally Posted by tifosi1993

Whatever. If they don't protest this ****, then they shouldn't be in F1. Carlos deserved to be on the podium, let alone in the points. What happened today is totally unacceptable.

Toto & CH fight for power for their respective teams. In Ferrari there’s none to voice out.
2nd April 2023, 08:49
Greig

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Originally Posted by brucewayne

Dude, you are already a McLaren Fan. We are Ferrari, we should compete with RB. Until then, I am not satisfied. You seem to be ok with P4/P5/P6. This is not what a Tifosi is looking for. So yeah, a good result for your McLarens I guess…

So you can't name any, what a shock.
2nd April 2023, 08:50
tifosi1993

Only positive from today: The race pace was good. I hope they have finally found a good base setup for this car.
2nd April 2023, 08:50
jgonzalesm6

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Originally Posted by brucewayne

Was Max even in his Box at the start? Maybe that’s a penalty…

Yeah, it doesn't look like it. Definitely out of his box.
2nd April 2023, 08:51
nani_s23

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Originally Posted by tifosi1993

What a nightmare start this season been so far.

First ferrari need to get their business doing with a strong car. You loose one or two but there will be confidence that you can win the rest. Sadly that’s not the current situation. This is going to be worse equal to 2020/2021
2nd April 2023, 08:52
brucewayne

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Originally Posted by Greig

So you can't name any, what a shock.

I can, but it won’t change anything for you. So why bother? You are not a person to discuss with. So I won’t even try.
2nd April 2023, 08:52
brucewayne

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Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Yeah, it doesn't look like it. Definitely out of his box.

At least no RB win I guess… let’s see
2nd April 2023, 08:52
tifosi1993

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Originally Posted by nani_s23

Toto & CH fight for power for their respective teams. In Ferrari there’s none to voice out.

Fred is a well experienced team principal. I hope he will do what's right.
2nd April 2023, 08:52
Greig

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Originally Posted by brucewayne

I can, but it won’t change anything for you. So why bother? You are not a person to discuss with. So I won’t even try.

So you can't, while googling it try find a new team.
2nd April 2023, 08:54
jgonzalesm6

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Originally Posted by brucewayne

At least no RB win I guess… let’s see

They should review it......but does it really make a difference given the circumstances.
2nd April 2023, 08:56
brucewayne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greig

So you can't, while googling it try find a new team.

Just send yourself a warning for trolling.
2nd April 2023, 08:58
nani_s23

Quote:

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

Only positive from today: The race pace was good. I hope they have finally found a good base setup for this car.

Yup, I guess with this race pace Charles would have challenged P2 Hamilton & P3 Alonso. As they were setting FL even at Lap 40/45 so on…!!
2nd April 2023, 09:01
Greig

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Originally Posted by brucewayne

Just send yourself a warning for trolling.

Still no examples then Ron?
2nd April 2023, 09:01
nani_s23

Average gap from Red Bull

Qualifying
+0.2 Ferrari
+0.4 Aston/Mercedes

Race average gap now
+0.6 Aston =
+0.7 Mercedes (0.8)
+0.75 Ferrari (0.9)

With no bouncing W14 & SF-23 clearly recovered ~0.3”s on race pace.
Last floor spec working is only good news for Ferrari today.

@Giuliano Duchessa

It would have been better if Charles was in the race & true race pace should be an indicator.
2nd April 2023, 09:04
Schumiklub

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Originally Posted by nani_s23

Average gap from Red Bull

Qualifying
+0.2 Ferrari
+0.4 Aston/Mercedes

Race average gap now
+0.6 Aston =
+0.7 Mercedes (0.8)
+0.75 Ferrari (0.9)

With no bouncing W14 & SF-23 clearly recovered ~0.3”s on race pace.
Last floor spec working is only good news for Ferrari today.

@Giuliano Duchessa

It would have been better if Charles was in the race & true race pace should be an indicator.

It didn't seem to me that we had such a big gap in the race. Maybe because of traffic at the beginning, but later on we weren't that far off, 2-3 tenths from what I saw on the timing screen. I assume Charles would have been a bit faster still.
2nd April 2023, 09:06
Greig

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Originally Posted by Schumiklub

It didn't seem to me that we had such a big gap in the race. Maybe because of traffic at the beginning, but later on we weren't that far off, 2-3 tenths from what I saw on the timing screen. I assume Charles would have been a bit faster still.

Was a whole lot of tyre management going on so would not look too much into pace today but at least we managed the tyres as well as others.
2nd April 2023, 09:07
nani_s23

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Originally Posted by Schumiklub

It didn't seem to me that we had such a big gap in the race. Maybe because of traffic at the beginning, but later on we weren't that far off, 2-3 tenths from what I saw on the timing screen. I assume Charles would have been a bit faster still.

Yup. In general Sainz race pace is not the benchmark.

For RB- Max, AM-Alonso, Mercs- Ham & Russell, Ferrari - Charles.

The reason is Sainz doesn’t belong to above league.

On top of it, I believe RB too didn’t show their true race pace. Once Max got the lead it’s all about tyre management & conservative Engine.
2nd April 2023, 09:10
nani_s23

Forgot to mention other point to be noted, Man that RB top speed is super. When they open the DRS, it’s like a hell of a thing.

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