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    Quote Originally Posted by burak karakutuk View Post
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    Interesting development!

    I said many months ago that Ferrari should look to exploit the sides of the full length of the race car to draw air from the sides and the underside of the Under Tray area of the race car. The Venturi effect of the drawing the air from the underside of the race car will provide a "Ground Effects" result if the air under the Under Tray is drawn rapidly from under the race car. It is a about capturing that air and channeling it to aid downforce. I also saw the warm air caused by exhaust system as a means to have high and low pressure air masses generated by rapid convection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by type056 View Post
    ٌٌWhat is flat bottomed floor?
    All F1 cars are flat bottom now. In the past, they were allow to have shaped bottom to help accelerate the air flowing underneath it, but that concept is banned now and all cars are required to have flat bottoms

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    Ferrari shops at McLaren to boost aerodynamics

    Ferrari shops at McLaren to boost aerodynamics

    Pat Fry has attracted a swathe of engineers to follow his move from McLaren to Ferrari.

    After a long and fruitful McLaren career, Briton Fry switched to Ferrari last year and is now the famous Italian team’s chassis technical director.

    According to Italy’s Corriere dello Sport, he has convinced his former senior McLaren colleagues including Rupad Darekar, Jonathan Heal, Ioannis Veloudis, Lawrence Hodge and Giacomo Tortora to join him at Ferrari.

    And Finland’s Turun Sanomat reports that McLaren’s aerodynamics project leader Marcin Budkowski is also set to switch to Ferrari.

    But on the F1Enigma blog, McLaren managing director Jonathan Neale insisted Budkowski is simply taking a “well earned sabbatical” and will return to work later in 2012.

    http://www.f1zone.net/news/ferrari-s...ynamics/11330/

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    Wrooom 2012: Rossi and Hayden in Madonna di Campiglio January 8th

    The Wrooom is now a major event on the calendar for fans, a meeting that started the new season at the same time presenting the program of races for 2012 Ducati MotoGP and Ferrari in F1 . Ducati for the 2011 edition was the turning point, with the first official appearance in a red Valentino Rossi and the presentation of the much-discussed GP11.

    In the new year will not change the gist of the event, with the usual candlelight vigil for the drivers of both the championships and race karts on the track of the lake. Among a press conference and the other, we do not know if it will be presented in final form the latest evolution of the Desmosedici GP12 with a twin spar frame, which is still under development waiting to get back on track with Valentino and Nicky.

    If you want to make a jump to see samples of your favorites, keep free for the week from 8 to Jan. 13, with the inaugural event and the first public meeting scheduled for 9, in place yet to be determined, but certainly in 'enchanting location of Madonna di Campiglio. After clicking on "continue" you will find the dates and events.

    Program Wrooom 2012


    Monday 9 - place and time to be

    the opening event of the week Wrooom

    Tuesday 10

    at 17.30 - Gully Miramonti
    Ducati riders Nicky Hayden and Valentino Rossi meet the public at
    hours 23.00 - Belvedere Trail
    Riders descend by torchlight. Reception with mulled wine

    Thursday 12

    17.30 - Gully Miramonti
    pilots of Ferrari Marlboro Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa will meet the public at
    hours 23.00 - Spinale Gondola
    riders descend by torchlight. Reception with mulled wine

    Friday 13

    at 16.45 - Pond
    Challenge Exhibition. Race on the frozen lake with the Marlboro Ducati and Ferrari Marlboro

    source: Motoblog.it

    http://motogp-update.blogspot.com/20...n-madonna.html

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    Ferrari have hired a shed load of people from McLaren:

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Saward
    The arrival in Maranello of former McLaren man Pat Fry has led to a certain amount of recruitment of McLaren employees for Ferrari, now that Fry has been moved up to the role of technical director. These include a number of aerodynamicists, notably senior aerodynamicist Rupad Darekar, who has worked at McLaren for the last 10 years. He is joined by Greece’s Ioannis Veloudis, Italy’s Giacomo Tortora and Britain’s Lawrence Hodge. In addition to these engineers Fry has also lured away Jonathan Heal, a senior stress engineer at McLaren for the last seven years. A master of aeronautical engineering from Imperial College, London, Heal joined McLaren from Airbus in 2005.


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    Yeah i added him as a friend also

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    Did he accept your adds? How do you know it's really him and not a fake profile though?
    Rest in Peace Leza, you were a true warrior...

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    yeshe did and there is only one man called Ioannis Veloudis.We cant be sure despite of this.Not much sharing ,comments just some photos and infos on his wall.Sometimes they speak greek.I already know that he is the true man or not thank you for this...

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    If you (sign in and then) look at his recent activity on Facebook, you'll see these two updates:

    Quote Originally Posted by Veloudis' Facebook Profile
    Ioannis Veloudis added McLaren Racing to his previous employers (Feb 2006 - Dec 2010).
    October 16, 2011 at 7:06pm

    Ioannis Veloudis added Ferrari F1 to his work.
    December 8, 2011 at 4:30pm
    On his friends list he has several McLaren employees and also Rupad Darekar and Jonathan Heal.

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    So it is not important to be him or not.I just mentioned that i added this man after Dj Taurus message.his family infos also there so why he lies?has he some mistery fans?

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    Take it easy dude... sheesh, I'm just asking a question.... Look up Michael Cammalleri (a high profile hockey player in Montreal and the NHL) on facebook and see how many profiles come up.... there are people out there that put out fake profiles for a laugh.... Wow....
    Last edited by Tony; 4th January 2012 at 15:53.
    Rest in Peace Leza, you were a true warrior...

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    He maybe more famous man comparing our new engineer but i can see what you meant.Whatever as you said lets take it easy mate please.Any news out except technical and sportif rules published?

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    yeah, i was following the king on his return home, on twitter, and it is a fake account! he even had official on his name, an NY RedBull teammates and everything!


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    FIA crash test for new Ferrari is rumored to be next week according to twitter sources.
    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo52ws9xLo1qlt7lao1_500.gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheProdigalSon View Post
    FIA crash test for new Ferrari is rumored to be next week according to twitter sources.
    pleeeaasseee work :) hope the new composite materials dont compromise quality...

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    Quote Originally Posted by voiko View Post
    pleeeaasseee work :) hope the new composite materials dont compromise quality...
    Doubt it, the new materials are for the floor/diffuser - Crash tests are only done on the nose, sidepods [3 angles] and rollbar.
    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo52ws9xLo1qlt7lao1_500.gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheProdigalSon View Post
    Doubt it, the new materials are for the floor/diffuser .
    How could this new composite material help the Floor, Diffuser? Is to do with flexing or faster air flow?
    “I prefer to beat them on Sunday” -Fernando Alonso, Press Conference Korean GP 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rishu View Post
    How could this new composite material help the Floor, Diffuser? Is to do with flexing or faster air flow?
    It could be to do with directing the heat better to use elsewhere. Don't forget, you can't use exhaust gases but there's nothing to say you can't use the heat from the engine and elsewhere. The new materials might be better for heat transfer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste View Post
    It could be to do with directing the heat better to use elsewhere. Don't forget, you can't use exhaust gases but there's nothing to say you can't use the heat from the engine and elsewhere. The new materials might be better for heat transfer.
    Sounds Interesting. May be they will make the mixture leaner towards Engine, Gear Box & gradually it will become richer towards the end of the Floor/Difuser to direct this heat. This can enable low pressure at this area & hence faster air flow.
    “I prefer to beat them on Sunday” -Fernando Alonso, Press Conference Korean GP 2010

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    New rumors about 663 from @joseluisf1

    Alonso has been testeing the front suspension modifications in the simulator recently made ​​by Fry and others new

    After several hours in the simulator, he told James Tortora and Pat Fry something like, 'This would have had options in 2011'

    Apparently the management of Pirelli has nothing to do with the F150 º, however the balance is yet to be improved.
    Last edited by Forza 27; 5th January 2012 at 12:01.

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    Kinda explains why Red Bull always seemed to have a good car setup for the race weekend. Now that Ferrari have a better simulator, they can make use of better setups.

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    Twitter rumors that we will in first tests try out more conservative version and parts of the car (basic parts so to say, chassis, reliability etc). Other "crazy" parts will come later cos they are apparently very "extreme". "vulgar" and "stylish" :) I hope that those crazy Byrne-ideas will work well... :)

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    Yup, i reckon we should conceal our 'crazy' parts until the last test so that other competitors don't steal them before the first race. Though i think Ferrari will use an incremental approach and introduce parts one by one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rishu View Post
    Sounds Interesting. May be they will make the mixture leaner towards Engine, Gear Box & gradually it will become richer towards the end of the Floor/Difuser to direct this heat. This can enable low pressure at this area & hence faster air flow.
    I think it can also warm up rear tire faster.

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    The 663 might be designed for Fernando, but a good balance will be even more beneficial to Massa - as he is in dire need of some self-confidence.

    I'm hoping that McLaren have problems with balance next year, because Button is very sensitive to it. If you give Button a bad car he will put in average performance. That's why he was beaten by Barrichello on a number of occasions at Honda.

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    I like the direction Ferrari has decided to take the Design Team! If Aero Development is the basis of the modern Formula One Race car then find the most season Aero Engineers and let them go a muck with ideas and directions. Ferrari has just pursued the most experienced and seasoned Aero people in the sport to elevate the Ferrari Team to reach further than ever before. The engines are frozen, so only the exploitation of the Aero Rules will allow a team to advance. I think this is a very smart direction for Ferrari to go.

    Ciao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankAlfa View Post
    I like the direction Ferrari has decided to take the Design Team! If Aero Development is the basis of the modern Formula One Race car then find the most season Aero Engineers and let them go a muck with ideas and directions. Ferrari has just pursued the most experienced and seasoned Aero people in the sport to elevate the Ferrari Team to reach further than ever before. The engines are frozen, so only the exploitation of the Aero Rules will allow a team to advance. I think this is a very smart direction for Ferrari to go.

    Ciao.

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    From Jose Luis:
    • Pat Fry seems to have discovered the solution to the balance of 663, have tried some modifications to the front wing and engine cover
    • The result seems to have been good in the tunnel and simulations, so the production of parts pass immediately
    • Byrne's new fund, is in 'queue' for the other parts test more urgent, but next week could already know something
    • Alonso is optimistic about the way the 663 is the Pirelli and the new way of driving, concerned about the reliability
    • The relationship between Alonso and Pat Fry is so good and strong already in Maranello jokingly says Andrea Stella is 'jealous'

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