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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by scuderiafan View Post
    http://plus.autosport.com/premium/fe...lap-over-2012/

    can anyone with an Autosport PLUS account summarise what has been said here? seems like an interesting article.
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    What is a " collector tank"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mare View Post
    What is a " collector tank"?
    From that article, it sounds like something that will collect the exhaust gas after it exist the exhaust outlet, and then channel this gas to the diffuser.

    The rules only say where the gas should exit, but it doesn't say you can't do anything with the gas after it exist the exhaust. So some people fear that they will make a "collector tank" to collect back that gas and channel it to the diffuser.

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    [QUOTE=Hornet;698193]From that article, it sounds like something that will collect the exhaust gas after it exist the exhaust outlet, and then channel this gas to the diffuser.

    The rules only say where the gas should exit, but it doesn't say you can't do anything with the gas after it exist the exhaust. So some people fear that they will make a "collector tank" to collect back that gas and channel it to the diffuser.[/QUOT


    yes but what will accelerate that gas out off the tank it needs speed to influence the aerodynamic i think

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    Ferrari have made gains in their bid to master the flexible front wing designs pioneered by Red Bull. (Autosport magazine)
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9630731.stm


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    Sounds good, wil we see a updated wing for the next race? Or is the time to produce a wing like that to short.

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    i think probably too short, but then, maybe Ferrari could have made a leap ages aho, but Autosport only finding out now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
    Sounds good, wil we see a updated wing for the next race? Or is the time to produce a wing like that to short.
    It's possible to make a new front wing in two weeks.

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    [QUOTE=mare;698199]
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    From that article, it sounds like something that will collect the exhaust gas after it exist the exhaust outlet, and then channel this gas to the diffuser.

    The rules only say where the gas should exit, but it doesn't say you can't do anything with the gas after it exist the exhaust. So some people fear that they will make a "collector tank" to collect back that gas and channel it to the diffuser.[/QUOT


    yes but what will accelerate that gas out off the tank it needs speed to influence the aerodynamic i think
    I recall MacLyin's ill-fated "Octopus" exhaust featured banned material which they explained away by leaving a small gap between the exhaust exit and the new section featuring the banned materiel. They explained that the add-on section was not part of the exhaust since it wasn't physically connected to it.

    I'm guessing this same principal could be used to "harvest" exhaust gas exiting from a legally sited exit and then ducted back to the diffuser. Lots of plumbing, but technically possible. The losses from the small gap would be marginal, especially once the system had warmed up enough to expand and close it up, while the "cold" dimensions would allow it to still pass scrutineering.

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    [QUOTE=XXX132;698305]
    Quote Originally Posted by mare View Post

    I recall MacLyin's ill-fated "Octopus" exhaust featured banned material which they explained away by leaving a small gap between the exhaust exit and the new section featuring the banned materiel. They explained that the add-on section was not part of the exhaust since it wasn't physically connected to it.

    I'm guessing this same principal could be used to "harvest" exhaust gas exiting from a legally sited exit and then ducted back to the diffuser. Lots of plumbing, but technically possible. The losses from the small gap would be marginal, especially once the system had warmed up enough to expand and close it up, while the "cold" dimensions would allow it to still pass scrutineering.
    I found this very interesting, they really need to tie up this loophole, there is a good blog on scarbsf1 which explains the rule changes.

    In it he says

    Lastly the exhaust position is also controlled by ensuring no bodywork sits in the tail pipes wake. To measure this, an imaginary cone (diverging at 3 degrees) in line with the pipe, reaching as far back as the rear axle line must be drawn. This cone (drawn red in the illustrations) must not touch any bodywork, nor must bodywork be placed over the cone.
    There is an illustration also, so it seems the FIA may have tried to cover this kind of thing off already? The question is, can bodywork outside the vicinity of the ''cone'' collect the gases and then blow them onto the diffuser etc.

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    look at the wing . Flexi just like RB wing

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1NAC View Post


    look at the wing . Flexi just like RB wing
    Flex baby flex

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    So easy to miss the breaking point at turn 15. Challenging circuit.
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    Montezemolo has seen the plans and the model for the tunnel of Ferrari in 2012, it seems that he was amazed by its 'unique' look
    Apparently Montezemolo saw the more 'radical' version of the car, with a stunning front end, 'amazing' pontoons and very compact rear.
    http://twitter.com/#!/joseluisf1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose Lorca View Post
    Jose, honestly, how much credence do you give to those tweets? geniuinley asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech_Skill View Post
    Jose, honestly, how much credence do you give to those tweets? geniuinley asking.
    I've got to say that I enjoy reading these tweets even though I know they can't be relied on. And even if they were true, things will change a lot from now anyway.

    Sometimes you know a source has been reliable in the past, although I don't really know this source other than when Jose shares stuff from them with us

    On the other hand, some sources spew utter garbage and can't get it right even after the event, ie pitpass.com

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=YFgUDm7_k0A
    how this is not forbidden guys?dont the regulations say teams are free to test with their young drivers for 3 times in a year?but only old version of car for example rb6,f60?i also noticed that sounds coming a little different as though they are not running EBD

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    Quote Originally Posted by burak karakutuk View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=YFgUDm7_k0A
    how this is not forbidden guys?dont the regulations say teams are free to test with their young drivers for 3 times in a year?but only old version of car for example rb6,f60?i also noticed that sounds coming a little different as though they are not running EBD
    Interesting the car also seems to be running the high rake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJB13 View Post
    Interesting the car also seems to be running the high rake.
    yes exactly.the car totally belongs to 2011 season.we do same tests with Perez and Bianchi with f60

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    that is running EBD and high rake. Its part of the design of the car. It is designed around that concept.

    Dont really know how they have got around that, running an RB7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    that is running EBD and high rake. Its part of the design of the car. It is designed around that concept.

    Dont really know how they have got around that, running an RB7
    I wonder if they classified this as one of their allowed practice sessions? If so, using the RB7, I wonder if the RB7 is more a starting point for the RB9 because of the expected rule changes?

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    [QUOTE=Montezemolo has seen the plans and the model for the tunnel of Ferrari in 2012, it seems that he was amazed by its 'unique' look
    Apparently Montezemolo saw the more 'radical' version of the car, with a stunning front end, 'amazing' pontoons and very compact rear.[/QUOTE]

    Sound like my kinda woman

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    what is a pontoon?

    and RB would just be using one of their 'filming days' thise Pirellis were not the ones used in the races iirc, and they would have been very hard tyres. and, if you look at the most recent Ferrari racing news, Jules Bianchi also had a quick go in the F150.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari_Fanatic View Post
    Sound like my kinda woman
    Definitely sounds sexy

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    Quote Originally Posted by scuderiafan View Post
    what is a pontoon?
    Sidepod I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose Lorca View Post
    Sidepod I think
    i wonder if they have tried something else, like McLaren with the sidepods?


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    Quote Originally Posted by scuderiafan View Post
    i wonder if they have tried something else, like McLaren with the sidepods?
    ijuuuu . Mclaren's sidepods are really ugly

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1NAC View Post
    ijuuuu . Mclaren's sidepods are really ugly
    if they work, who cares about how it looks ?
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    I think they have gone for sidepods similar to those of the B195.

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