Las year there were Valencia 3 days, Jerez 4 days, Barcelona (2x) 4 days. That Valencia test was replaced by Mugello this year .
Last edited by wacc; 25th April 2012 at 06:37.
Um, so the gas is wrapping around the wheel?
I still don't see how we can get the gas to seal the diffuser which it has to go in between the wheel and the diffuser
No, not around a wheel. That circle in the above image is just graphic example. The gas at certain lower speeds remains attached to the rounded bodywork behind the outlet and it is pulled down to the floor.
Well, lets do see what will have in may 1
If anything it only help me understand downwash for Red Bull exhaust They are running it close to the surface all the way down to the gap between the diffuser and the wheel, hence the ramp
Après un début difficile, malgré la victoire en Malaisie, Ferrari fera débuter au Mugello durant les derniers essais privés de l’année 2012 une nouvelle version de la F2012. Nommée « version B » par la plupart des observateurs, elle représente un changement de 40 à 50% par rapport à la machine qui a débuté la saison. Mais, les dernières rumeurs indiquent que toutes les évolutions ne seront pas disponibles pour les essais sur le circuit italien.
Selon Autosprint, Ferrari aurait pris du retard dans le développement de certain composant qui seront essentiellement testé en simulation CFD voir soufflerie et non en piste pour validation. Une inquiétude car jusqu’à présent les derniers éléments ayant eu le même chemin de développement ont été des échecs.
La F2012 « B » aura selon toute vraisemblance le même nez avant (qui fonctionne bien selon Alonso et Pat Fry), mais la partie centrale de la voiture aura un nouveau design. Des radiateurs différents, un nouveau profil d’extracteur, une distribution du poids différents et probablement une modification de la suspension arrière. Pas encore de trace d’échappement aérodynamique, ni de F-Duct.
Le pari de Ferrari est important, car, selon les estimations de Maranello il faudra trouver environ 1,2 secondes pour dominer le plateau. D’ailleurs, Fernando Alonso, en marge du GP de Bahreïn n’avait pas usé de la langue de bois à ce sujet : « Même si nous trouvons 600 millièmes de mieux par rapport à la concurrence, ceux-ci sont en marche et il nous reste encore 400 millièmes pour être à leur niveau. Mais au moins, nous allons réduire l’écart. »
Can someone translate this? My translate app doesn't work :(
Ferrari to release B version of the current car
Up to 50% of changes expected on the car
Everything won't be tested in Mugello, some pieces will only be tested in the CFD tunnel because they will be late coming off the production line. This is a worry because until now the CFD hasn't been working as expected.
Main changes will be in the centre of the car: new radiators, better weight distribution, new cooling exits and rear suspension but no F-Duct.
The Ferrari camp predicts they must find 1.2 seconds in car performance to be ahead of the field, but they only anticipate an improvement of 6 tenths from these upgrades.
"The client is not always right." - Enzo Ferrari
After a rough start, despite the victory in Malaysia, Ferrari will start at Mugello during the final private test of 2012 a new version of the F2012. Named "Version B" by most observers, it represents a change from 40 to 50% on the machine that started the season. But the latest rumors indicate that all developments will not be available for testing at the Italian circuit.
According Autosprint, Ferrari would have fallen behind in the development of some component that will be mainly tested in wind tunnel and CFD not see the track for validation. A concern because so far the last elements that took the same path of development have been failures.
The F2012 "B" will in all likelihood the same nose before (which works well as Alonso and Pat Fry), but the central part of the car will have a new design. Different radiators, a new profile extractor, a different weight distribution and probably a modification of the rear suspension. Yet no trace of exhaust aerodynamics, or F-Duct.
Ferrari's gamble is important because, according to estimates from Maranello have to be found about 1.2 seconds to dominate the board. Moreover, Fernando Alonso, alongside the Bahrain GP had not used the waffle about it: "Even if we find 600 thousandths better compared to the competition, these are on and it we still have to be 400 thousandths to their level. But at least we will close the gap. "
6tenths in race pace would be a great gain
Seriously though, just hoping the changes put into place start to take effect soon. It's been far to long since we've won the WCC.
0.6 tenths is the aim, even if it means our rivals improve by another 0.4, we'll still have gained 0.2. But in my opinion Ferrari have the most to gain from this, they have the most room for improvement and change.
I hope the quoted 0.6 tenths is Ferrari's modest prediction of expected gains. As for the exhaust, I think Ferrari should start by improving the base of the car before moving onto that. Lotus doesn't have an exhaust like McLaren or Sauber yet they seem to be performing very well as seen in Bahrain.
Get the fundamentals of the car up to scratch and then worry about the exhaust. I assume that is what Ferrari will be hoping to do in Mugello and might explain why some parts of the car will only be tested in Barcelona Friday practice.
The F-Duct i expect to be introduced in Canada; a place where we always seem to receive a raft of updates.
"The client is not always right." - Enzo Ferrari
If the gain will really be only 6 tenths, it's really bad. Others will improve as well (0.3 - 0.4 ?) So we will be in the +- same posititon as we are now. We need at least 1 second (which means 0.6s gain). And even than we will be little bit behind.
"If he can't do it with Ferrari, well, he can't do it." - John Surtees
I may be wrong but please correct me..
The improvements Ferrari might get
The original exhaust -0.3s
Front wing -0.1s
Rear Wing -0.1s
Modified Radiators -Unknown
No Setup Compromises -0.2 s(Includes better straight line speed and rake).
So we might see the ferrari improve by 0.7 to 1 sec..
BUT I May Be Wrong...
Any other info will be welcomed...
Theres only so much the other teams can gain Ferrari has the most to gain by catching up...
If we can make the car within .3 of the leader Fernando can win.
I think the aim must be around 0.7-1 second. Every team, even the fast ones would be expecting to gain at least 0.3-0.4 of a second given its a TEST. Any thing less would be a waste since teams have gained more over race weekends.
0.6 or 0.7-1 whatever is very big i think.Like some friends said we have more room to improve so we must gain more.And team says %50 of car will change but we wont bring all updates all parts to Mugello.I guess some other parts we are pushing hard to get ready.We may earn 0.1-0.2 extra tenths of a second.I am hasty and dont wait for Mugello test.Pray to God all of upgrades works Finally,some teams like Lotus didnt able to work their last updates and they are planning to bring major updates to Monaco.If i know correct we will have another major improvment in Canada and Silverstone
"It(Ferrari F2012) has much room for improvement and we the best, we can not go much further because of the regulation of this year"
There's just not lots of time to be found with the car with these regs. Most of the developments will most likely be fine tuning for certain tracks and getting on top of the tyres, which will give an advantage in and of itself. I'm not saying teams won't bring new updates, they will but they will be half a tenth here, 0.1s there.
As for Ferrari, our car isn't at the basic level. The leaders were at the basic level in pre-season, and then brought updates. Remember Lotus's tenth or tenth and a half. So if Ferrari can improve the car to the basic car package it will take a fairly large chunk out of the gap to the leaders. Fernando can win with a car that's 0.3s behind the leaders. He's proven it time and again. Felipe hasn't shown this as of late, but I honestly think if we improve the car, Felipe will be competitive. Anyhow, we improve the car some in Mugello, bring the rest of the updates in Spain. If they work as the team expects, we finish the 3 step evolution off in Canada and we should be mighty close to the leaders.
It's all up to Ferrari, but right now it's much much easier for Ferrari to close the gap to the leaders than it is for the leaders to gain more time on Ferrari.