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    New rims look nice. A lot of thought has gone into the front pull rod suspension, and how it will will effect the aerodynamics of the car. There's an almost clean path to the side pods. If you look under the nose and try to visualise the air flow to the barge boards and down the sides, it all makes sense. And most of all the Rear packaging is immaculate, fantastic work there, looks even slimmer than the RB7! Don't let the bodywork on the exhaust outlet fool ya, underneath there's a massive undercut.

    Good work Ferrari!

    As for the nose, I think i like it.
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    A little interactive comparison, F150/f2012:


    COMPARATIVE

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    The nose is hideous

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    I think she is beautiful.... I love our car already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose-Lorca Fan View Post

    As for the nose, I think i like it.
    We'll all get over the horror the same way we got over the horror of the high rear wing in '09.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifoso View Post
    The nose is hideous
    That's putting it mildly. I don't really care as long as it's fast though.


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    she is like a winter dragon maybe there is a lot of snow in maranello because of that car i realize the great car is not in the outside look its in the soul

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    This picture is just fantastic:


    You can nicely see that massively tightened rear and flat beam wing.

    Btw: One guy from F1technical noticed that the wheelnuts are blue on the right side and red on the left.
    Last edited by Kyss4k; 3rd February 2012 at 16:31.

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    So when do we get to see this beauty out on the track?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose-Lorca Fan View Post
    So when do we get to see this beauty out on the track?
    Next Tuesday, when testing starts in Jerez I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mi View Post
    I think she is beautiful.... I love our car already.
    cant wait to see her go around a track
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    Wow...From the side shot, she looks great...that nose...how can that step, do anything except throw air up? If it works, then the aero
    guys are truly exploiting the black art. Why 2 airbox's behind the driver?
    I def do not like that front, but if it works, go for it. Amazing how F1 cars have evolved.
    Last edited by Nova; 3rd February 2012 at 16:40.

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    Horrendous nose, but the rest is

    that back end is tighter than rb7's.

    i do hope they will do something with the nose though. looks wrong, and they know it, so i'm sure they will figure something out.


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    Another thing that I find quite interesting: Was Caterham presented with DRS rear wing? He didn't have that actuator in the middle of it. Were they really that good and able to hide the mechanics in the side pillars of the wing? Don't know if it was mentioned before.

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    The F2012 is the fifty eighth car built by Ferrari with the express purpose of taking part in the Formula 1 World Championship. It adopts a well established tradition of being named after its year of manufacture.

    The project, which goes by the internal code number of 663, constitutes the Scuderia’s interpretation of the technical and sporting regulations that apply this year: the main changes when compared to 2011 concern the height of the front section of the chassis, the position of the exhaust pipes and the mapping for the electronic engine management.

    Practically every area of the car has been fundamentally revised, starting with the suspension layout: both the front and rear feature pull-rods, aimed at favouring aerodynamic performance and lowering the centre of gravity. The front wing is derived from the one introduced on the 150š Italia in the final part of its racing life and has been evolved from there. Further evolutions are planned in this area for the opening races of the season. The nose has a step in it that is not aesthetically pleasing: with the requirement from the regulations to lower the front part, this was a way of raising the bottom part of the chassis as much as possible for aerodynamic reasons. The sides have been redesigned, through modifications to the side impact structures, the repositioning of the radiators and revisions to all aerodynamic elements.

    The lower part of the rear of the car is much narrower and more tapered, a feature achieved partly through a new gearbox casing and a relocation of some mechanical components. In recent years, the area of exhausts has been crucial in terms of car performance and much effort was expended on this front, based on changes to the regulations introduced this year. The rear wing is conceptually similar to the one used in 2011, but every detail of it has been revised and it is now more efficient. Naturally, it is still fitted with DRS (a drag reduction system,) which is operated hydraulically. The front and rear air intakes for the brakes have been redesigned and work was carried out in collaboration with Brembo to optimise the braking system.

    The engine in the F2012 is an evolution of the one that powered last year’s car, which is inevitable given that the technical regulations forbid any modification to internal components aimed at increasing performance. Furthermore, much effort has gone into improving its installation in the new chassis, so as not to penalise the aerodynamics of the car. Another area on which the Maranello engine specialists have been working is performance drop off, with the aim of maintaining the highest possible performance level throughout each engine’s cycle of use, which has now reached an average life of three races. The electronic management of the engine has been revised based on the modifications to the rules regarding the use of exhaust gases, a task that has required a great deal of attention and many hours on the test bed. The kinetic energy recovery system maintains its low central location in the car – a choice also aimed at maximising safety – and has undergone an update directed mainly at reducing its weight and at improving the efficiency of some of its components. Several decades of technical collaboration with Shell has seen further progress on the fuel and lubricants front, revolving around improving performance in absolute terms and on durability over the life cycle of the engines, as well as reducing consumption. As usual, great attention has been paid to the electronics on the car, especially in terms of reducing weight and, obviously, reliability.

    As always at Ferrari, a great deal of time has been devoted to the performance and optimisation of the materials used, right from the design stage of each of around six thousand components that make up the car. In part, this is done to ensure that all operations carried out at the race track are as efficient and effective as possible. Obviously, quality control remains a crucial aspect, as does the goal of reaching maximum levels of performance and reliability, while maintaining the highest possible safety standards.

    With a reduction in the number of days available for track testing before the start of the Championship, which has dropped from fifteen to twelve, preparatory work on the test beds prior to the car’s track debut, has taken on even more importance. The three test sessions – at Jerez de la Frontera and Barcelona – will serve to get a picture of the handling of the F2012 and to adapt it to the Pirelli tyres. Indeed, getting the most out of the tyres has been an area that has seen a lot of work both at the design stage and in how the activities at the track are to be managed. The car is due to undergo a very intensive development programme over the first part of the season, especially on the aerodynamic front.

    There is likely to be much discussion about the 663′s nose design, where the front of the monocoque meets the nose. This is something that is typical of the 2012 cars but unusually the Ferrari has the space between the ‘turrets’ filled in, whilst others like the Force India VJM05 and Caterham CT01 have it open. The deep nose supports with the twin camera mounts inside are a direct carry over from the 2011 car, at least in terms of concept.

    The 663 features pull rod suspension, a major change from the 2011 car. With the 2012 regulation changes essentially outlawing blown floors the rear area of the cars revert pretty much to early 2009 specification (before everyone noticed the double diffusers fitted to the Brawm, Toyota and Williams). This makes a pull rod layout more attractive at the rear. As was the case with the McLaren the diffuser has been blanked off to prevent prying eyes getting a look before the first test at Jerez. Note the exhaust exit location just visible in the picture above.


    On the roll hoop/engine cover the 663 features a cooling duct for the gearbox heat exchanger. Very similar in concept to the one found on the McLaren MP4-26.

    Further images released by Ferrari from the cars rather quiet launch event show the 663′s pull rod front suspension arrangement better. The design is the talk of the F1 paddock already with many engineers scratching their heads about how it could possibly work.

    The pull rod runs downward from near the top of the upright to the base of the chassis where it is likely the torsion bars and dampers are mounted. A first look at the cars bulkhead will be very revealing.

    by RCE

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    However, the greater height beneath the nose does produce increased potential to drive airflow to the leading edge of the sidepods for more downforce.

    But it also raises issues with the car's centre of gravity. To make this lower, Ferrari has innovatively opted for a pull-rod front suspension, which places the heavy metal rockers and springs lower down. The team has also reported a small aero gain for this suspension layout.


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    I got the same feeling again as I had 2002 when we had F2002 this is ā winnig car.

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    that exhaust is very nice, but i hope it doesnt get banned now that it has been shown. blowing the vanes on the brake duct

    very nice boys.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ek583 View Post
    Next Tuesday, when testing starts in Jerez I guess.
    Thanks!


    I wonder what Mr Costa is thinking?

    Anyway has anyone seen the diffuser? Looks big and very different to the McLaren one. I wonder what we are upto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDARMYSOJA View Post
    That's putting it mildly. I don't really care as long as it's fast though.
    Absolutely!

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    Anyone have a wallpaper of the new car? Please.

    EDIT: Nevermind. Found it
    Last edited by Tifoso; 3rd February 2012 at 17:28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermann View Post



    My first reaction.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahaha

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    Anyone have any high rez shots of the car??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkircher View Post
    Anyone have any high rez shots of the car??
    http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/0...s-2012-f1-car/

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    She's a stunner ain't she...

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    So it looks like those wing-crash structures turned out to be fantasy? I thought we were also supposed to see a floor with holes in the front 40mm to help drive airflow back to the diffuser area. Are these two elements being held off or will we see them in Jerez next week?

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    in the rear side of the car i seen a hole on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by scuderiafan View Post
    that exhaust is very nice, but i hope it doesnt get banned now that it has been shown. blowing the vanes on the brake duct

    very nice boys.
    I believe that blowing on the brake ducts is allowable under the new regs.

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    I reckon there might be another part to fit on to that nose!
    The car looks good not to keen on the white bits but they are there to stay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scuderiafan View Post
    that exhaust is very nice, but i hope it doesnt get banned now that it has been shown. blowing the vanes on the brake duct

    very nice boys.
    I have full confidence in Byrne

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