Jerez Test 7th-10th Feb 2012 - news and pics

[Butterfly]

Well its a spanisch guy of course he will favour Alonso :) Anyway todays car is a MUCH different car than yesterday. Maybe Massa would be better in it too...
As for new parts I think they had them all the time but couldnt test them all at once before they ger basic data and feeling about the car...Maybe they have A B and C variants of different parts and try them out which functions the best...

Or maybe it's Fernando making the difference. Again.

[Tifoso]

Or maybe it's Fernando making the difference. Again.

Possibly. I am a Ferrari fan. I am happy no matter which driver is doing better, as long as we are ahead of the others.

[medeni73]

of course hes not happy cos he wants perfect car and obviously sees more potential in it and hopefully knows how to unlock it

[Butterfly]

of course hes not happy cos he wants perfect car and obviously sees more potential in it and hopefully knows how to unlock it

He fixed the 2009 McLaren, he can fix this Ferrari.

[kheopsb]

He fixed the 2009 McLaren, he can fix this Ferrari.

If it does need fixing... at this point the Jury's still out. I reserve my judgement for another 2 weeks, hopefully that's enough time to get it through the myriad of matrix tests they need to get the right setup and integration of the new parts

[Greig]

What I read from that is that in the hands of Felipe, the F2012 is crap, whereas Fernando makes it shine.
Apart from that, Ferrari seem to be producing new parts at warp-speed, which is very encouraging, makes them able to take on anybody development-wise.

I think it's going to be a great year for Fernando, not so much for Felipe - guess he can't get heat into those tires no matter the car.

Really, that is just being silly

[Butterfly]

Really, that is just being silly

I don't think that's what that is.

[Hermann]

Autosport asks "are you happy with the car?" -> Fry: "We are okay, but I would not say I am happy yet until we get the whole thing working (perfectly)" -> Autosport writes headline: "Ferrari not happy"

[Tifoso]

I don't think that's what that is.

They are working on bits. I honestly do not think that you can compare days yet.

[REDARMYSOJA]

I don't think that's what that is.

Maybe this is what it is.

Pat Fry - We were set back a little bit by the foot of snow in Fiorano, certainly the first morning of Felipe [Massa] was spent doing what we would have done there, so we are now trying to play catch up

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97453


But it's probably just that Massa sucks.

[Tifoso]

Autosport asks "are you happy with the car?" -> Fry: "We are okay, but I would not say I am happy yet until we get the whole thing working (perfectly)" -> Autosport writes headline: "Ferrari not happy"

Exactly.

[Butterfly]

Maybe this is what it is.



http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97453


But it's probably just that Massa sucks.

Did Massa take no podiums last year whereas Alonso took 10 of them, including a win? Doesn't that make Massa a lousy driver compared to Alonso? I have nothing against the guy, it's just he can't get heat into those damn tires.

[Butterfly]

Plus, it's the same suspension from yesterday to today.

[Greig]

I don't think that's what that is.

Stupid then?

How can you make such comments when they ran very different cars and programmes?

[Greig]

Did Massa take no podiums last year whereas Alonso took 10 of them, including a win? Doesn't that make Massa a lousy driver compared to Alonso? I have nothing against the guy, it's just he can't get heat into those damn tires.

Troll

[Tifoso]

Did Massa take no podiums last year whereas Alonso took 10 of them, including a win? Doesn't that make Massa a lousy driver compared to Alonso? I have nothing against the guy, it's just he can't get heat into those damn tires.

Alonso is the best driver on the grid. It doesn't follow from that fact that Massa is a bad driver, though. And I see absolutely no point in slamming him on a Ferrari board.

[REDARMYSOJA]

Plus, it's the same suspension from yesterday to today.

With a new floor and two days of testing done to further the setup.

Massa's best lap a 120.454

Alonso's a 120.412

Pretty close but Massa should be thrown under the bus? Brilliant!

[Greig]

With a new floor and two days of testing done to further the setup.

Massa's best lap a 120.454

Alonso's a 120.412

Pretty close but Massa should be thrown under the bus? Brilliant!

Maybe we should be asking why Alonso is so close to a lousy no good can't get on the podium driver like Massa then?

[Tifoso]

Maybe we should be asking why Alonso is so close to a lousy no good can't get on the podium driver like Massa then?

LOL. Excellent point

[REDARMYSOJA]

Maybe we should be asking why Alonso is so close to a lousy no good can't get on the podium driver like Massa then?

I'd say it's the same reason Kimi was the "fastest man in F1" yet got thumped by Massa in equal equipment, or the other fastest man alive Hamiton constantly finding himself behind Massa last year.

[Invincible]

Don't judge Massa.
Alonso would make anyone look like a brainless handicapped "driver"...

[Tifoso]

Don't judge Massa.
Alonso would make anyone look like a brainless handicapped "driver"...

He could, but in Massa's case he doesn't

[Jacquesvw]

Just wait until Luca Badoer returns to F1 then Massa and Alonso don't stand a chance.

[Greig]

Don't judge Massa.
Alonso would make anyone look like a brainless handicapped "driver"...

Nice choice of words.....

[Nova]

Reading Fry's words, it appears the decision to go with a radical design is a much bigger undertaking than
anyone is realizing, including me. I do hope that Ferrari have enough time, given the short testing time, to get
all of this accomplished. This has got to be huge.

I also find really interesting, reading Autosport this AM, the phylosophy of Mac running a "low" profile design as compared to
Ferrari and everyone else running a "high" profile concept, hence the traditional style nose on the Mac. 2 totally different concepts
to achieve very similar results. Which concept will prove correct?

Isnt this a testing thread? I thought for a minute it was a Nando vs Massa thread..with a Kimi thrown in for whatever reason...

[OSS EL BOSS]

+1

[OSS EL BOSS]

Don't judge Massa.
Alonso would make anyone look like a brainless handicapped "driver"...

+1

[Fiondella]

The Stun:

Ferrari are negotiating a sensational swoop for Raikonnen in exchange for Massa. Lotus are allegedly willing to also do a magnum container buy back to offset the scuderia's inital investment in the Icecream man. Sources to both camps are suggesting that the laptimes that Raikonnen managed on the first day at Jerez have ignited this situatiuon and Raikonnen is happy to return to his old outfit provided he continue where he left off @ Earning an absolute fortune for as little as possible in return in the way of effort on his part.

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[aliferdo]

Hello everyone, did you follow the links for live trials?

[Voy]

Looks like a panic creeps in slowly in some fair-weather Ferrari fans hearts... :-S

Let's keep faith in our boys and wait till the first race to see what is the full truth about us and other teams.