First Barcelona Test 21st-24th Feb 2012 - news and pics

**OSS EL BOSS** · 22nd February 2012, 18:44

Noticed also at 2:12 in the video that the red bull is not so unbelieveabe stable like some people are praying all the time.

**Ste** · 22nd February 2012, 18:48

I see Andrew Benson (BBC) has been writing garbage on Twitter again this evening...

For what it's worth, I've been number crunching again. Red Bull appeared to have best part of a second on McLaren today

Absolute rubbish. How does he know fuel loads, or degradation levels? BBC aren't even at the test.

**scuderiafan** · 22nd February 2012, 18:50

to be honest, i try to think that the RedBull has at least 5 tenths on any time they set in testing. just my musing though. not concrete.

general consensus is that ferrari have been improving just like they said they would be.

**OSS EL BOSS** · 22nd February 2012, 19:04

Hamashima at work:

**burak karakutuk** · 22nd February 2012, 19:05

Hey CrucialXtreme,you comment on Autosport forum that "Ferrari will stay in Barcelona & have filming day after the testing session. "Could you tell us where do you know please or source?

**OSS EL BOSS** · 22nd February 2012, 19:09

Originally Posted by Ste

I see Andrew Benson (BBC) has been writing garbage on Twitter again this evening...

Absolute rubbish. How does he know fuel loads, or degradation levels? BBC aren't even at the test.

Hamilton also said he used old tyres for all his stints in his race simulation while red bull used new tyre beginning from the 2. stint.

**OSS EL BOSS** · 22nd February 2012, 19:18

Alonso said he would prefer a fast and unreliable car to areliable slow car when he asked about the comparison of the F2012 with the F150

Keep faith guys we ar not in a bad pssition we will see and show the others in melbourne where we are.

Alonso smiling at the press conference:

The sleeping beast will wake up in melbourne and eat the red cows:

**FerrariF60** · 22nd February 2012, 19:29

Originally Posted by OSS EL BOSS

Hamilton also said he used old tyres for all his stints in his race simulation while red bull used new tyre beginning from the 2. stint.

Lewser Ramilton is full of we both know what...LOL

**Nova** · 22nd February 2012, 19:31

I just watched the Flying Lap w/Peter Windsor..very good program, 1st time Ive seen it..
They mentioned that Ferrari will indeed do 2 filming days following this test, and that Ferrari has flown in
the teams wives/girlfriends, as they will not be back to Maranello until after Malaysia.

Peter and Scarbs F1 did the show, they talked mostly about RB, Ferrari n Mac, plus a few others. They had drawings and foto's
of the exhausts, front wings especially Mercs, sidepods, etc..Very informative and intelligent program with no favoritism in any way.

They did bring up a point Ive been wondering about, n thats the slot on the RB nose slot, def a channel for air, but to where..Newey said its "primarily"
for cooling, but they all say that. Theres a few places to see flying lap, I caught it on speed.com, it will reair until the new program streams.

**burak karakutuk** · 22nd February 2012, 19:40

Allright,thanks a lot Nova

**FerrariF60** · 22nd February 2012, 19:41

Originally Posted by Nova

I just watched the Flying Lap w/Peter Windsor..very good program, 1st time Ive seen it..
They mentioned that Ferrari will indeed do 2 filming days following this test, and that Ferrari has flown in
the teams wives/girlfriends, as they will not be back to Maranello until after Malaysia.

Peter and Scarbs F1 did the show, they talked mostly about RB, Ferrari n Mac, plus a few others. They had drawings and foto's
of the exhausts, front wings especially Mercs, sidepods, etc..Very informative and intelligent program with no favoritism in any way.

They did bring up a point Ive been wondering about, n thats the slot on the RB nose slot, def a channel for air, but to where..Newey said its "primarily"
for cooling, but they all say that. Theres a few places to see flying lap, I caught it on speed.com, it will reair until the new program streams.

do you have the LINK??

thx

**Hombre B** · 22nd February 2012, 19:43

Twitter:

After testing models of Barcelona, Ferrari will stay in Montmelo to shoot the 'Filming Day' which is pending.

**zuludemon** · 22nd February 2012, 19:46

From the look that i have had at the data available i think the ferrari lacks df and is struggling with tyre deg at the moment... Unless they are 2 seconds a lap quicker than others they are running relatively low (not empty but not anywhere near what other top teams appear to be running) fuel and the laptime drop is fairly bad... maybe this is down to the pullrod front end and not getting it in the right zone for now and therefore becoming front end limited... we will only know Q3 aus...

**Nova** · 22nd February 2012, 19:47

Originally Posted by FerrariF60

do you have the LINK??

thx

I was actually just cruising Speedtv.com as he still works for Speed and found it..or try

http://smibs.tv/the-flying-lap

Its the latest episode that aired today, episodes are numbered.

**NanoTheQuickest** · 22nd February 2012, 19:50

I have a good feeling about he F2012, don't know why but we have not seen what that baby is really capable of!

I believe in her but she's just a baby girl trying to make her first steps

!

**Atrani** · 22nd February 2012, 19:51

Ma come? Force India and Sauber are faster than Ferrari????

**scuderiafan** · 22nd February 2012, 20:04

Originally Posted by Ste

I see Andrew Benson (BBC) has been writing garbage on Twitter again this evening...

Absolute rubbish. How does he know fuel loads, or degradation levels? BBC aren't even at the test.

now he says ferrari are near RB!. think we should take both comments with a pinch of slat, along with everything else.

**MarlboroFA** · 22nd February 2012, 20:04

Originally Posted by zuludemon

From the look that i have had at the data available i think the ferrari lacks df and is struggling with tyre deg at the moment... Unless they are 2 seconds a lap quicker than others they are running relatively low (not empty but not anywhere near what other top teams appear to be running) fuel and the laptime drop is fairly bad... maybe this is down to the pullrod front end and not getting it in the right zone for now and therefore becoming front end limited... we will only know Q3 aus...

wich data????seriously just stop....

**zuludemon** · 22nd February 2012, 20:14

Originally Posted by MarlboroFA

wich data????seriously just stop....

Laptime data over the stints....

Im not saying its 100% doom and gloom cos i dont know.. i can only summize based upon what i see it could be completely wrong

**Homan13PSU** · 22nd February 2012, 21:34

Originally Posted by zuludemon

Laptime data over the stints....

Im not saying its 100% doom and gloom cos i dont know.. i can only summize based upon what i see it could be completely wrong

What was Ferrari's fuel load during these stints?

**Tifoso** · 22nd February 2012, 21:37

Originally Posted by Atrani

Ma come? Force India and Sauber are faster than Ferrari????

Non e vero

**meh123** · 22nd February 2012, 22:01

That body work is either shrinkwrapped or melted under the heat....sidepod inlets are much smaller this year...

**Tifoso** · 22nd February 2012, 22:12

Originally Posted by meh123

That body work is either shrinkwrapped or melted under the heat....sidepod inlets are much smaller this year...

The 1st, I'd say

**Atrani** · 22nd February 2012, 22:22

Ho paura e vero. Guardano i tempi.

**meh123** · 22nd February 2012, 22:37

Just beautiful...well we are not running a higher rake. and the front wing looks higher...??

**Forza 27** · 22nd February 2012, 23:24

Originally Posted by Tifoso

The 1st, I'd say

That part is removable so it's development part. You can't read too much out of flow vis without Uv light but you can see what they wanted to do with the air fow over the side pods. Usually they spray flow vis at top of sidepods so they can see if the air flow stays attached to the sidepods. You can see the small dots of flow vis all the way from the fornt to the end of the sidepods. The air flow is collected at the end of chanell in the exhaust area and it's pointing simetric with the exhaust flow which is in fact redirected using the body work because regs do not allow to point the exhaust pipe so low. Than the exhaust plume speeds this air flow from sidepods. From this picture we can see that flow is directed through brake fins by outside rear wing pylons to the side top of diffuser. The principle is the same as last year to try seal the air under the diffiusor proventing the dirty air from the tyre ruining the flow under the diffuser. The other good thing is that this allows higher rearend which allow us to run more rake. How effective is this sloution only Ferrari knows from data. To find out how much influence this has they need to run different exhaust positions to make comparisson. They are also testing alternative solutions. Furthermore you can see that on wing plyons the flow vis is pointed upwards what indicates that the top of beam wing and the airofil shaped pylons air doing their job. Even at diffuser the flow stays attached and it's pointing upwards. The outside part of rear wing pylons are without markings what is good indication that most of the air from where flow vis was applied stays attached to the flow along side pods and does not split at some point.

This flow vis test is mainly used to compare the CFD simulation with track simulation.

**FerrariF60** · 22nd February 2012, 23:27

i still think that Ferrari/Alonso may be hiding a couple of ACES up their sleeves; there is NO WAY our F2012 is that much off pace....i REFUSE to believe that

what if on last day of testing Ferrari will pull a fast one on both Red Fools and McMowers, just like they did in 2004 with their F2004 machine when everyone thought Ferrari were all doomed....see this LINK and hopefully we'll be doing this OVER AGAIN:

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/4...es-lap-record/