First Barcelona Test 21st-24th Feb 2012 - news and pics

[anupa2k]

Green flag...

[anupa2k]

Yup come Felipe lets do it...for you..for Fernando..for Ferrari...and all the Ferrari fans across the globe...

[ClaudiuCojo]

I bet the fans of Renault and McLaren said the same things in 2000-2004 when we were wining all the time, it's common seance the team that's in front will always generate rumors and controversy.

[RedRebel40]

I believe the off throttle blowing isn't banned. it is just reduced to about 10% if I am correct.

[F2002]

I believe the off throttle blowing isn't banned. it is just reduced to about 10% if I am correct.

It's banned:

The 2011 season saw teams running "off-throttle blown diffusers", which created downforce by forcing fuel through the engine to produce exhaust gasses and directing it over the diffuser when the driver was not applying the throttle. This concept was originally banned in incremental phases, with increasingly restrictive rules on what teams could and could not do, with a full ban to be applied from the 2011 British Grand Prix onwards. However, the incremental ban was controversial, with several teams applying for and receiving permission to circumvent the total ban. After discussion between the FIA and engine manufacturers, the original regulations were restored, with the full ban delayed until 2012. The regulations in 2012 will govern the design of the exhaust with the teams agreeing to strict constraints on the position of the exhaust tailpipe. This will result in the exhaust exiting the bodywork much higher up than in 2011, and no longer in the vicinity of the diffuser. In October 2011, a clarification to the amended rules was issued, effectively banning "exotic" engine maps; in November, further amendments were introduced, completely banning the practice of blowing exhaust gasses over parts of the car to improve downforce, following a bid by several teams to allow it under certain conditions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Formula_One_season

[F2002]

Yup come Felipe lets do it...for you..for Fernando..for Ferrari...and all the Ferrari fans across the globe...

Not sure why they're not on track yet, surely we need to run that beast to understand it...

[RedRebel40]

It's banned:
completely banning the practice of blowing exhaust gasses over parts of the car to improve downforce

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Formula_One_season

so this means that all the current exhausts are illegal because they are all running their gasses over parts of the car and that they should revert to the lets say 1997 exhausts?

for example this would be legal:

[OSS EL BOSS]

wowwwww petrov did 1:22.2 with the caterham

[F2002]

wowwwww petrov did 1:22.2 with the caterham

It's a timing error apparently.

[OSS EL BOSS]

petrovs run:

28 1:22.268
29 1:28.932 +6.664
30 1:30.480 +1.548
31 pit

[Ferrari_Fanatic]

wowwwww petrov did 1:22.2 with the caterham

Petrov will be champion this year!

[OSS EL BOSS]

It's a timing error apparently.

maybe he did cut the shikane

[sav_pap]

[OSS EL BOSS]

Petrov will be champion this year!

when this laptime is real that means they did a huge improve threw the winter

[OSS EL BOSS]

13:29 Apologies for the excitement. The screen resets itself into a 1m27s lap.


i was shocked

[OSS EL BOSS]

why is massa still in the pit?

[Kyss4k]

wowwwww petrov did 1:22.2 with the caterham

This is just a perfect example how meaningless test times are...

[NanoTheQuickest]

so this means that all the current exhausts are illegal because they are all running their gasses over parts of the car and that they should revert to the lets say 1997 exhausts?

Agree with that, the problem the FIA has not enough gears (wind tunnel) to prove otherwise but on engine off throttle mappings they (FIA) have no excuse with regards to allowing the team, which have been warned with sufficient notice.

[Gerhard Berger]

so this means that all the current exhausts are illegal because they are all running their gasses over parts of the car and that they should revert to the lets say 1997 exhausts?

In 1997 they were blowing the diffuser....

[Hornet]

I believe the off throttle blowing isn't banned. it is just reduced to about 10% if I am correct.

It's banned:

I believe the 10% rule is a means of enforcing a total ban, because the engine still have to run even when a driver is off throttle and they are now allowed to run at 10% throttle only. Previously, the engines were set to artificially run at a higher throttle when the driver is off the peddle. This is what's being banned, and to ensure that teams to not in any sneaky way throttle the engine beyond what it should be during idle state, the FIA introduce the 10% limit which is where the engine should be at when its idle.

[medeni73]

Ferrari still in the pits...maybe they're installing some new parts and that takes time....

[RedRebel40]

I believe the 10% rule is a means of enforcing a total ban, because the engine still have to run even when a driver is off throttle and they are now allowed to run at 10% throttle only. Previously, the engines were set to artificially run at a higher throttle when the driver is off the peddle. This is what's being banned, and to ensure that teams to not in any sneaky way throttle the engine beyond what it should be during idle state, the FIA introduce the 10% limit which is where the engine should be at when its idle.

I thought that 10% rule was because Renault said that otherwise the engine wouldn't be cooled good enough and they would have reliabilitty issues. So its pure for reliabilitty that the 10% rule is allowed. something with cool gas/air cooling the engine valves or something.

[anupa2k]

2 hrs left of the session...so i think that Ferrari will again cover laps between 70-80...

[Hornet]

I thought that 10% rule was because Renault said that otherwise the engine wouldn't be cooled good enough and they would have reliabilitty issues. So its pure for reliabilitty that the 10% rule is allowed. something with cool gas/air cooling the engine valves or something.

From my understanding, that was the limit the FIA finally set by the end of last year (unless they change again which I'm not aware of).Of course I don't know exactly how they came to that 10% figure. The FIA did consult the teams first before finalizing the ban though.

[sav_pap]

He' s out...

[ferrari4life]

So i just logged on and saw this stuff about exhaust blowing still happening. I read on some other forums about how Ferrari are the bad guy for calling it out.. I think its funny to read.. Ferrari was the team that last year allowed in mid-season to keep the peace and then it gets abused.

What is the current position of this controversy?

[anupa2k]

Felipe is back on track...

[Sempre_Ferrari]

the position is simple really...It's all Ferrari's fault!!...lol

We'll see what happens over the next couple of days I guess but I'm almost certain Luca Di will not take this lying down this time....should the FIA decide to allow it..

[anupa2k]

P Driver Team Time Laps
1 Maldonado Williams 1m22.391s 68
2 Schumacher Mercedes 1m23.384s +0.993 83
3 Kobayashi Sauber 1m23.582s +1.191 66
4 Button McLaren 1m23.918s +1.527 66
5 Vergne Toro Rosso 1m24.433s +2.042 46
6 Massa Ferrari 1m24.771s +2.380 52
7 Webber Red Bull 1m24.835s +2.444 59
8 Di Resta Force India 1m25.646s +3.255 38
9 Glock Marussia 1m26.173s +3.782 75
10 Petrov Caterham 1m26.725s +4.334 40

[sav_pap]

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