[QUOTE=FerrariF60;710352]Who says we’re OFF pace?? Did Ferrari come out and say that we’re slow, that our intention of being aggressive in our design has turned out to be not fast enough???
As far as I can remember I don’t think I’ve seen such comments from Ferrari or even our drivers.
So until I see black on white confirmation from our team, that we indeed are slower than our main rivals, I tend to believe that we’re going to be OK and that is only taking time for such a BRAND NEW CAR we have to iron out the details and compare all possible combinations of set ups that are going to make us quicker, QUICKER than ANYONE out there.
My opinion we are slower.
[QUOTE=Hermann;710335]You can still see the bodywork deforming here, i don't think this is really 'solved':
That is the pic from the first tests.
Hopefully no reliability problems today and 100+ laps. Not looking at times, just want good direction and progress for the car.
"The main problem to be faster is, above others, the lack of traction output which penalizes the curves"
"The problem comes from the lack of downforce to the output of the curves, DF is not lost as before, but it needs to generate more"
"This lack of DF and the consequent lack of traction causes more wear on tires than teams with more downforce"
"Moreover, the lack of traction forces to use a motor map of the pair just for the wheels do not skid even more"
"In principle, the burden aerodunámica and balance (other deficiency) should improve when you put all the pieces together aerodynamic"
"However, the expected 'big improvement' will not arrive until at least the next test in Barcelona where there will be significant new pieces"
"The team will decide whether to put all the pieces and diverdas and test combinations, or put them in a progressive or 'incremental'"
"The pieces have to try them one by one to see if they work and how. Which, logically, that the car does not behave properly"
"When all are working together and with the proper setup, we can get an idea of how it will really test the F2012 in these"
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I believe that the real worry at the moment is not having been able to do some really good and consistent long runs with the new car.
True, Alonso is saying that it doesn't really matter whether you are able to simulate a race or not (on the basis of the fact that they did it during last year's testing), but personally I believe that, with more limited testing when compared to older times, clocking a good number of kilometers is directly correlated with being able to understand the car better, setting it up more effectively, etc.
My feeling is that the car is either very good, but its real potential is not being unleashed yet, or that it has a few fundamental fatal flaws that are making it impossible to get it running seriously. In the old days, by this time, we would be clocking hundreds of laps and race simulations.
Don't forget that the guys at Red Bull are "incessantly practicing pitstops - rolling up, changing wheels and then repeating" according to Autosport - it goes a long way to show the level of preparedness these guys have reached already, as opposed to be building and shipping new parts and doing 3-4 lap stints to learn the complexities of the car, which is what Ferrari is allegedly stuck with at the moment.
Hello F2002, nice to see another Ferrarista from Malta!
Felipe sei nell nostro cuore!
Good morning mate.
yes RBs are making pitstop practices already as if they've finished car setup... so much ahead of everyone or a bit too overconfident??? RB is doing that what Ferrari did last year this time so hopefully the history will repeat :)
I wouldn't worry too much, I'd rather Ferrari iron out the reliability issues before the real racing starts so let them just do their own agenda. The new car is all to discover still.
Felipe sei nell nostro cuore!
I'm not sure I understand the difference between assembly 'progressively' or 'incrementally ' but thank you for this.
Is it time for coffee yet?
The good make you gasp. The great make you laugh......Fernando Alonso - rofl!!!
I just don´t know why. But reading how bad things look and bla bla bla, I just have another feeling. I always keep my feet on the ground and keeping my hopes down, but somehow I just feel this car is a winner, once sorted out. Just the look of it has winner written all over it.
Even if we are not there in Australia it wouldn´t be the end of the world. We can´t afford to wait halfway through the year to start winning races, but we could wait 3-4 races for them to get the ultimate pace.
I really don´t care about the times right now. But it would feel nice to see Ferrari do many many laps and just get the car running.
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not
"According to the FIA technical Renault and Mercedes engines are still working with mapped ’off-throttle’."
"If he can't do it with Ferrari, well, he can't do it." - John Surtees
1 % is still a gain, if we changed our front end just to get a little aero gain then this 20% is huge..IMO it should be banned completely, no loophole can be exploited especially if the FIA is aware of it, but we already seen that the FIA doesn't clamp down on RedBull as they do on us...
ride height system was approved for Lotus , we say we have a similar system.. BAMMMM the FIA bans it...
Veni Vidi Vici e Vici Vici Vici.... Ferrari F2012 WDC WCC Champion
I have a feeling that Massa will do more than 100 laps today
One thing I'll remind you is that they stopped developing the 2011 car very early last year, to make sure that all resources are dedicated to the one for 2012. Sure, they may not be prepared fully for Melbourne (I certainly remember other times when Ferrari were never well prepared for the first races but then got up to speed during the European leg), but considering the strength of the competition and how championships have evolved recently, they'd need to sort themselves out quite quickly.
In any case, this is once again an outsider's perspective - it may well be, as I said in an earlier post, that the car is just super strong and they're hiding it. Which is what all of us hope at the end of the day.