Second Barcelona Test 1st-4th Mar 2012 - news and pics

[Rishu]

Fernando Alonso: " "We are very calm because the car is very complex and there's no reason to believe that it won't be quick."

Felipe Massa:" I'm satisfied and from the next Barcelona test we will be able to really start true and meaningful testing."

[Klutch]

This session will be great.
Forza!

[diesel08]

http://formulaoneupdate.wordpress.co...uct-explained/

[Klutch]

O_o, F2012 has W-duct.
I though only Merc has it.

[medeni73]

I havent seen any holes at the entry of the nose on our car...

[gazoz]

http://formulaoneupdate.wordpress.co...uct-explained/

unbelievable video have not seen this before are the others using this system also and how long has it been around thank you

[Fer12]

Tombazis said that they are getting the final version of the wing to the last test.wel have to wait n see.
I still think tat ferrari is hiding something behind that step in the nose.

[Ferrari2183]

Don't think Ferrari have a W duct. I haven't seen anything to suggest they do. This the type of thing that needs plenty fine tuning so I don't expect to see it in the early races if ever.

[gazoz]

Don't think Ferrari have a W duct. I haven't seen anything to suggest they do. This the type of thing that needs plenty fine tuning so I don't expect to see it in the early races if ever.

so why the video with ferrari there

[Fer12]

so why the video with ferrari there

That video has F150 with the old front wing.Wel have to wait til tomo if they have somethin interesting in the wing.

[VSeven]

Morning Gents.

I was on racecar-engineering.com last night. I noticed something that still hasn't been addressed. How on earth can Red bull manage to still run such a high rake and yet have the tip of their floor touching the ground. Its clear this has been one of their strongest areas of the car and yet no one can copy (they must all know about it) their solution. You can also clearly see a wire near the tip of the floor to the chassis.

Maybe something like what Scarbs described last year, is going on? http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/1...-saw-solution/

Thoughts....?

redbullvsferrari.jpg

[gazoz]

Morning Gents.

I was on racecar-engineering.com last night. I noticed something that still hasn't been addressed. How on earth can Red bull manage to still run such a high rake and yet have the tip of their floor touching the ground. Its clear this has been one of their strongest areas of the car and yet no one can copy (they must all know about it) their solution. You can also clearly see a wire near the tip of the floor to the chassis.

Maybe something like what Scarbs described last year, is going on? http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/1...-saw-solution/

Thoughts....?

redbullvsferrari.jpg

interesting is anyone else using this system?

[VSeven]

Not that im aware off. I remember people wondering why Red Bulls floor, exposed after a crash last year, had visible wear marks all over it.

The secret for Red Bull seems to be that for the past few seasons they've managed a high raked attitude car, that gains them extra front wing performance and does so without excessive plank wear.

[gazoz]

Not that im aware off. I remember people wondering why Red Bulls floor, exposed after a crash last year, had visible wear marks all over it.

The secret for Red Bull seems to be that for the past few seasons they've managed a high raked attitude car, that gains them extra front wing performance and does so without excessive plank wear.

quite interesting thx for the info

[Hombre B]

McLaren exhaust (60 m/s = 216 km/h):

[type056]

Morning Gents.

I was on racecar-engineering.com last night. I noticed something that still hasn't been addressed. How on earth can Red bull manage to still run such a high rake and yet have the tip of their floor touching the ground. Its clear this has been one of their strongest areas of the car and yet no one can copy (they must all know about it) their solution. You can also clearly see a wire near the tip of the floor to the chassis.

Maybe something like what Scarbs described last year, is going on? http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/1...-saw-solution/

Thoughts....?

redbullvsferrari.jpg

I do not see Red Bull rake is high.It is high as F2012 is at the bake of cars.But their tip touch the ground that maybe due to two different place of track.

[Nova]

Thats where RB hides their turbo's.

[Ferrari2183]

What you see between the floor and chassis is a stay. It is there as reinforcement so the splitter does not deflect to much.

[Alonsofan2002]

Like post tension.

[MarlboroFA]

McLaren exhaust (60 m/s = 216 km/h):

Can you get this for the Ferrari 2012 ?

[anialonso]

Looking forward to seeing our 2012 spec front wing and rear wing....
Want to see Ferrari front wing flexing!!!!!!!!!!!!

[anialonso]

Praying for the following thnigs to happen this test::

1.The Car should run reliably..
2.Improved Consistency as well as tire wear
3.Improved rear end grip
4.Do something that will shut the anti-ferrari reports for good..

[SS454]

man some great technical data so far in this thread. if Ferrari are using a W duct, they need to find who their spy is and fire his ass pronto! It was disturbing when someone told the media about the nose channel on the F2008.

[Nando]

I really doubt Ferrari are using a W-Duct. The animation simply uses the most recognisable F1 marque to animate

man some great technical data so far in this thread. if Ferrari are using a W duct, they need to find who their spy is and fire his ass pronto! It was disturbing when someone told the media about the nose channel on the F2008.

[medeni73]

Morning to all lets do some testing people!!! :)
Once again some useful links:

http://msfree.gr/ms.php?id=26175
http://ticker.auto-motor-und-sport.de/
http://www.f1today.nl/testsessies/20...catalunya.html
http://f1tests.co.cc/2012.php?rev=on
http://live.autosport.com/
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...day-1-line-up/
http://twitter.jamesallenonf1.com/?refresh
https://twitter.com/#!/InsideFerrari
http://www.williamsf1.com/test-timings

[wacc]

Yeh, the w-duct video is already 2 or 3 weeks old. And if I am not mistaken, it is only nicely done presentation of someone's idea.
Looking forward to the start of test session. I thing, we wont see many new parts or major design changes.

[Hornet]

Final test week. Can't say I'm sad. Looking forward to the first race already.

[modza]

McLaren exhaust (60 m/s = 216 km/h):

Can You please explain what makes gas flow go down so much when left attachment thing ?

[Ferrari2183]

Can You please explain what makes gas flow go down so much when left attachment thing ?

The downwash, meaning the air that was previously attached to the bodywork around that area, and the coanda effect.

[medeni73]

Best time for Massa for now...What worries me is the fact that we have pitot again on the car...I thought they've finished with data gathering...