2012 Spanish GP - Qualifying Thread

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You beat me

1 10 Romain Grosjean 14:08:35 323.2
2 9 Kimi Räikkönen 14:17:02 323.1
3 16 Daniel Ricciardo 14:09:26 319.4
4 17 Jean-Eric Vergne 14:09:53 318.9
5 4 Lewis Hamilton 14:10:46 318.3
6 3 Jenson Button 14:07:48 318.2
7 11 Paul di Resta 14:08:43 317.8
8 12 Nico Hulkenberg 14:07:55 317.4
9 7 Michael Schumacher 14:10:35 316.7
10 8 Nico Rosberg 14:56:10 316.5
11 20 Heikki Kovalainen 14:10:42 315.6
12 5 Fernando Alonso 14:06:50 315.5
13 6 Felipe Massa 14:09:30 315.5
14 21 Vitaly Petrov 14:09:37 315.5
15 14 Kamui Kobayashi 14:10:50 315.5
16 19 Bruno Senna 14:09:34 313.8
17 15 Sergio Perez 14:19:01 313.7
18 18 Pastor Maldonado 14:59:32 313.7
19 2 Mark Webber 14:15:55 311.2
20 1 Sebastian Vettel 14:59:57 311.1
21 23 Narain Karthikeyan 14:09:39 310.8
22 25 Charles Pic 14:19:05 310.7
23 22 Pedro de la Rosa 14:10:38 310.6
24 24 Timo Glock 14:20:46 310.4

[burak karakutuk]

You beat me

[Stormsearcher]

Does it make everyone feel better to kick a man while he is down? We all know it is a frustrating season and it is not going well for Felipe but bashing him serves no purpose.

Fully agree!

[Ferrari Man]

How do we fair on our tyre situation??? thinking we have two new sets of hards??

[Jack]

One or two of those great McLaren pit stops should fix that.

You guys are today specially clever and smart. It is being the funniest thread I've read here at TSC.

[KonstaKoo]

Fully agree!

Why on earth should Felipe be given any slack? Ferrari are in the sport to win and Felipe is just a liability. I have to admit that my opinion is somewhat based on the way Kimi was treated, by the team and some Tifosis as well. I don´t understand why the same, almost loathing, does not apply now when Felipe is just awful. I don´t believe that anyone on the grid could´ve qualied lower than 17th today with F2012.

[gazoz]

Why on earth should Felipe be given any slack? Ferrari are in the sport to win and Felipe is just a liability. I have to admit that my opinion is somewhat based on the way Kimi was treated, by the team and some Tifosis as well. I don´t understand why the same, almost loathing, does not apply now when Felipe is just awful. I don´t believe that anyone on the grid could´ve qualied lower than 17th today with F2012.

+100

[kurski]

Good grid (3) Fernando and Felipe is bad 17, but is it normal Massa.

[gazoz]

Good grid (3) Fernando and Felipe is bad 17, but is it normal Massa.

oh thats right we have Poor Massa and extremely Poor Massa depending which sunday it is this is normal Massa

[Cemz85]

Vettel : It was close between Nico and myself which was the only one we were battling with in Q3 unfortunately, the rest seemed too far away and we didn't have the speed of the car.


This is great news

[sav_pap]

Venezuela.

:p

[FerrariF60]

1 10 Romain Grosjean 14:08:35 323.2
2 9 Kimi Räikkönen 14:17:02 323.1
3 16 Daniel Ricciardo 14:09:26 319.4
4 17 Jean-Eric Vergne 14:09:53 318.9
5 4 Lewis Hamilton 14:10:46 318.3
6 3 Jenson Button 14:07:48 318.2
7 11 Paul di Resta 14:08:43 317.8
8 12 Nico Hulkenberg 14:07:55 317.4
9 7 Michael Schumacher 14:10:35 316.7
10 8 Nico Rosberg 14:56:10 316.5
11 20 Heikki Kovalainen 14:10:42 315.6
12 5 Fernando Alonso 14:06:50 315.5
13 6 Felipe Massa 14:09:30 315.5
14 21 Vitaly Petrov 14:09:37 315.5
15 14 Kamui Kobayashi 14:10:50 315.5
16 19 Bruno Senna 14:09:34 313.8
17 15 Sergio Perez 14:19:01 313.7
18 18 Pastor Maldonado 14:59:32 313.7
19 2 Mark Webber 14:15:55 311.2
20 1 Sebastian Vettel 14:59:57 311.1
21 23 Narain Karthikeyan 14:09:39 310.8
22 25 Charles Pic 14:19:05 310.7
23 22 Pedro de la Rosa 14:10:38 310.6
24 24 Timo Glock 14:20:46 310.4

so much for the difference in top speed between the FAMOUS DDRS or SUPER drs mercedes have and FERRARI....not much difference after all

did we improve our top speed??? it seems like we did, NO???

but those LOTUS cars have MIGHTY impressive trap speeds; we're gonna have to make some good places at the start and STAY away from the in the DRS zone...

[sav_pap]

Vettel : It was close between Nico and myself which was the only one we were battling with in Q3 unfortunately, the rest seemed too far away and we didn't have the speed of the car.


This is great news

Liers!!!:eek:

[FerrariF60]

raikkonen was .3 ahead off alonso in sector 1 in q3.. Those lotus are soo quick..

better TOP speed, hence better Q1...we better hope we're ahead of them by a few good place positions during the race, because they'll easily overtake us in the DRS zone

[Alessandra]

Alonso: "(Our) target is to improve our quali position". I think it's fair to say that Alonso has done so. ( I don't know what's going on with Felipe).

OK you can say that JB, MW, SV, NR etc had bad days at the office or poor tactics, but no-one's been saying that about us recently when they've been ahead of us. They just take the credit.

I've always loved Fernando's response to winning the 2005 WDC; "It may be luck that I've sometimes benefitted from others' misfortune, but it's not luck that I'm always in a position to do so". And that's exactly what he did today anad whilst we wait to hear what Pat Fry and other team members have to say about the 3rd place I'd guess they'll see it as a sign that there have been improvements to the car and maybe, just maybe, the fight is really on.

[number 13]

How bout that for Stefano Domenicali's birthday present?
Go Ferrari!Great job from Fernando,Felipe was unlucky and with a better strategy he could make it near top 10 i think..Our pace is good guys!

[kurski]

oh thats right we have Poor Massa and extremely Poor Massa depending which sunday it is this is normal Massa

Showed a few places Felipe tomorrow will improve but is unable to wonders.

[fronaldo]

Alonso, who was driving a car with a large number of upgrades, added: "We did a step forward, I don't know how much because I think P3 is over-performing.

wow..over-perfoming..

[ferrari4life]

I will reserve my judgment of Massa after the race. If the car is improved and with the way we have fast starts and extra sets of tires for him.. He should make it stick.

[FerrariF60]

Alonso, who was driving a car with a large number of upgrades, added: "We did a step forward, I don't know how much because I think P3 is over-performing.

wow..over-perfoming..

there you go, so in fact we DID NOT improve that much as we all FANS may have thought, it was just Alonso's magic as usual in front of his home fans...

[Rob]

on Twitter, Macca fans shouting about their 150th pole, should know this but i cannt remember, how many do we have?

[FerrariF60]

on Twitter, Macca fans shouting about their 150th pole, should know this but i cannt remember, how many do we have?

hopefully more then them....LOL

[Rob]

hopefully more then them....LOL

if remember right, our 200th was Kimi in 2008, Magny-Cours.

[Rob]

Good job today by Fernando, hope Felipe and get up through the field and finish in points. Hoping for a Fernando flying start.

[scuderiafan]

Yeah I think Ferrari has about 206 poles. Come back then Macca
Anyways, yeah Fernando was faster than both lotus in 2nd sector, and especially 3rd sector.
Times there were consistently good, and I think that is the traction sector. Has traction improved a lot then?

[Rishu]

So, Helmut was right after all

[Rishu]

Yeah I think Ferrari has about 206 poles. Come back then Macca
Anyways, yeah Fernando was faster than both lotus in 2nd sector, and especially 3rd sector.
Times there were consistently good, and I think that is the traction sector. Has traction improved a lot then?

Yes it has, now our main focus should be getting the top speed higher, reason why we were not so good in 1st sector

[fronaldo]

Alonso-"Obviously for us it was even impossible to dream about being in top three the first four races. We just arrived in Q3 with not new sets [of tyres] left, so definitely it's a step forward.

used soft=p3..new soft=

[Dino]

Will he be able to repeat this masterpiece???????????????
He is on the cleaner line this time!!

[Nova]

Massa, Webber, Button, all down to tire strategy, nothing more..they are all good drivers.
I do think the upgrades are headed the right way, FA didnt look to be fighting the car as he has in past races,
and all of his sector times are good. I mean, cmon..he was going for pole when b4 this he was lucky to make Q3.
Amazing the difference in the 2 compounds...I mean, they are miles apart.