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    Ferrari personnel changes - news & comments

    Sebastian Vettel may be joining Ferrari at just the right moment. The fleeing Fernando Alonso revealed in Abu Dhabi that he actually made the decision to leave Ferrari way back in September. "Only time will tell if it's a good one or a bad one," said the Spaniard.

    His successor is Red Bull's quadruple world champion Vettel, with Alonso telling a Spanish newspaper: "I told him 'Good luck'. Asked if the German will need luck, Alonso added: "That's what I thought but I didn't say it to him."

    Indeed, Ferrari has had a tumultuous start to the new V6 era and has been busily shedding top staff all year including Stefano Domenicali, Luca Marmorini and president Luca di Montezemolo. Told he might need patience as he joins a beleaguered Ferrari in 2015, Vettel said: "I know that there is a mountain of work waiting for me -- and that is part of the task that I have chosen."

    According to Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport on Friday, Vettel will have plenty of help. The authoritative newspaper said that since October, Ferrari has signed key personnel from Red Bull, Mercedes and McLaren. "It is no coincidence that many engineers are following Vettel from Red Bull," said correspondent Luigi Perna, "and others have come from Mercedes, Mclaren, Lotus, Williams and Renault."

    "Within the racing division at Ferrari, there have been 60 new hirings," added Perna, revealing that one of them is Mercedes hybrid specialist Wolf Zimmermann. And "Cedric Cornebois, an expert in combustion, also comes from Mercedes," Perna said. (GMM)
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    Think these hirings are too late. They will influence the development of the 2016 PU but of course all this changes if there are engine relaxation rules. Vettel wants to emulate Schumacher by joining a team in difficulty.

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    Is it late or not I don't know, but sure it is good to have all those specialist.

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    I don't know if that rumor is true, but I guess it's good to start anew with new talents. With the arrival of the new driver Vettel, this is the best time to start building up a new team if they wish to do so.

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    Even if the new guys dont have much influence on our 2015 car, atleast they can help by ensuring we are aggressive on development during the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Is it late or not I don't know, but sure it is good to have all those specialist.
    Never too late, its all about building the team up, as said many time, like 1996. This isputting down the foundations to build on. All good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs316 View Post
    Even if the new guys dont have much influence on our 2015 car, atleast they can help by ensuring we are aggressive on development during the season.
    Yes, it`s not "Keep calm" anymore, now they are actually doing something.

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    Good to see the changes are coming

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    Changes to the staff at this moment can only be positive imo.

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    When I say too late I'm talking about for this era. But if you're talking about the next era it isn't too late, it is actually the right time. I just hope Vettel stays patient as he decided to jump ship when Red Bull had a more difficult year. I'm not sure he is that tolerant when the car isn't very good. He has a winning mentality and will want to see results not immediately but fairly quickly. If Ferrari cannot deliver again to a champion driver it will be another big disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamim179 View Post
    When I say too late I'm talking about for this era. But if you're talking about the next era it isn't too late, it is actually the right time. I just hope Vettel stays patient as he decided to jump ship when Red Bull had a more difficult year. I'm not sure he is that tolerant when the car isn't very good. He has a winning mentality and will want to see results not immediately but fairly quickly. If Ferrari cannot deliver again to a champion driver it will be another big disaster.
    Oh well, era's in Formula 1 changes fairly quickly
    About Vettel he needs to prove he is worth it with his performance first before we be concerned that he jumps ship or anything.

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    Marlboro chief to replace Ferrari boss Mattiacci


    Nov.22 (GMM) After just seven months in the job, Marco Mattiacci is set to lose his role as Ferrari team boss.
    Germany's Sport Bild on Saturday cited 'well-informed sources' in claiming the 43-year-old Roman will be replaced by the Marlboro Europe brand manager Maurizio Arrivabene.

    Mattiacci only took over from Stefano Domenicali in April of this year.

    He said on Friday that what had struck him most about F1 since switching from heading Ferrari's North American road car arm was "the intensity, the complexity but also the incredible amount of talented people that are in Formula One.

    "How amazing is this sport, a global platform, the visibility that specifically in my case I don't like for myself, but which is a consequence of the job," Mattiacci added.

    "The level of competition, (the) aggression is really high, so a lot to learn, but at the same time I think I brought an understanding of people, choosing the right people and from here how to create an organisation for the future."

    Mattiacci has overseen the replacement of the departing Fernando Alonso with Sebastian Vettel, but according to Sport Bild the Italian will vacate his post next week.

    "Supposedly," said correspondents Ralf Bach and Bianca Garloff, "Sergio Marchionne was not satisfied with the Roman's work."

    Mattiacci's successor, Arrivabene, is no stranger to F1, overseeing Marlboro's sponsorship of the Maranello team and reportedly already close to Bernie Ecclestone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondilad View Post
    Marlboro chief to replace Ferrari boss Mattiacci


    Nov.22 (GMM) After just seven months in the job, Marco Mattiacci is set to lose his role as Ferrari team boss.
    Germany's Sport Bild on Saturday cited 'well-informed sources' in claiming the 43-year-old Roman will be replaced by the Marlboro Europe brand manager Maurizio Arrivabene.

    Mattiacci only took over from Stefano Domenicali in April of this year.

    He said on Friday that what had struck him most about F1 since switching from heading Ferrari's North American road car arm was "the intensity, the complexity but also the incredible amount of talented people that are in Formula One.

    "How amazing is this sport, a global platform, the visibility that specifically in my case I don't like for myself, but which is a consequence of the job," Mattiacci added.

    "The level of competition, (the) aggression is really high, so a lot to learn, but at the same time I think I brought an understanding of people, choosing the right people and from here how to create an organisation for the future."

    Mattiacci has overseen the replacement of the departing Fernando Alonso with Sebastian Vettel, but according to Sport Bild the Italian will vacate his post next week.

    "Supposedly," said correspondents Ralf Bach and Bianca Garloff, "Sergio Marchionne was not satisfied with the Roman's work."

    Mattiacci's successor, Arrivabene, is no stranger to F1, overseeing Marlboro's sponsorship of the Maranello team and reportedly already close to Bernie Ecclestone.
    Marco was only a stand in until further notice.
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    Yeah but didn't know they would replace him so quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondilad View Post
    Yeah but didn't know they would replace him so quick.
    Wasnt meant to be this long anyway.
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    So more changes then. What happens to Marco's 3-year plan then? Was Vettel aware of this before he signed up with Ferrari? We need someone who has experience leading a F1 team or as a minimum someone who has played a senior role in a F1 team. Seems to me we are just changing like for like here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamim179 View Post
    So more changes then. What happens to Marco's 3-year plan then? Was Vettel aware of this before he signed up with Ferrari? We need someone who has experience leading a F1 team or as a minimum someone who has played a senior role in a F1 team. Seems to me we are just changing like for like here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shamim179 View Post
    So more changes then. What happens to Marco's 3-year plan then? Was Vettel aware of this before he signed up with Ferrari? We need someone who has experience leading a F1 team or as a minimum someone who has played a senior role in a F1 team. Seems to me we are just changing like for like here.
    Maybe the 2015 car is really worse than expected and marchionne want to do a strong act?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamim179 View Post
    So more changes then. What happens to Marco's 3-year plan then? Was Vettel aware of this before he signed up with Ferrari? We need someone who has experience leading a F1 team or as a minimum someone who has played a senior role in a F1 team. Seems to me we are just changing like for like here.
    wasnt Marcos plan, it Ferrari's plan.
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    Nice moves, it will take some time to recover from the damage the old guard did .It will take at least one year of rebuild, and am happy a 4x champ chose to be part of our new project.

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    I'm guessing MM's job was do the hard stuff and take the hits from the media (read: fire people) while his successor would have a better quality staff (except for drivers :D) and a bit less negativity towards him.

    Anyone has an idea who those 60 "specialists" are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonso14 View Post
    I'm guessing MM's job was do the hard stuff and take the hits from the media (read: fire people) while his successor would have a better quality staff (except for drivers :D) and a bit less negativity towards him.

    Anyone has an idea who those 60 "specialists" are?
    I didn't know a 4 time champ represents a downgrade in drivers department.

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    Alonso is moving to a different team and allegedly he is taking with him quite a few engineers and mechanics. So it's not like we are going to have 60 additional staff. A major portion of those 60 will be to replace what Alonso is taking with him.

    Wonder where Marco is going to go now. Maybe to his old job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamim179 View Post
    Alonso is moving to a different team and allegedly he is taking with him quite a few engineers and mechanics. So it's not like we are going to have 60 additional staff. A major portion of those 60 will be to replace what Alonso is taking with him.

    Wonder where Marco is going to go now. Maybe to his old job?
    no, is not that many people. He wants Andrea and Max, but Mclaren doesnt really need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vecchiasignora View Post
    I didn't know a 4 time champ represents a downgrade in drivers department.
    And I didn't know people who actually watch F1 rate people on WDC won. But coming to think about it: Jacques Villneuve > Gilles. Vettel > Senna, etc.

    Hell, I suggest we stop watching the races and just check f1.com after the race. Rosberg 6 wins, Vettel 0 wins, Alonso 0 wins, Kobayashi 0 wins => Rosberg > Vettel = Alonso = Kamui in 2014


    @shamim179, who is leaving? I've only heard the rumor of Stella leaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonso14 View Post
    And I didn't know people who actually watch F1 rate people on WDC won. But coming to think about it: Jacques Villneuve > Gilles. Vettel > Senna, etc.

    Hell, I suggest we stop watching the races and just check f1.com after the race. Rosberg 6 wins, Vettel 0 wins, Alonso 0 wins, Kobayashi 0 wins => Rosberg > Vettel = Alonso = Kamui in 2014


    @shamim179, who is leaving? I've only heard the rumor of Stella leaving.
    Championships count for sthg when it comes to rating, to dismiss it like that is not right. Vettel definitely ranks higher all time then alonso... and has better future going as he is younger and alonso is on his last legs ( he is 34 next year)

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    I can dismiss 2011 & 2013 without giving it a second thought. If he didn't win those, he should have retired on the spot.

    2010 & 2012, while some amazing drives, his lack of consistency and talent sometimes meant he wrapped the championship in the last race while driving the best car on the grid.

    Championships don't count as much in sport like F1. If Rosberg wins the WDC would that make him a top 3 driver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vecchiasignora View Post
    Championships count for sthg when it comes to rating, to dismiss it like that is not right. Vettel definitely ranks higher all time then alonso... and has better future going as he is younger and alonso is on his last legs ( he is 34 next year)
    Even though vettel won 2012 WDC title, alonso rated as best driver in the paddock. Why is that...??? Did vettel get that rating, rating wise alonso >>>>>>> vettel. Yes u r right alonso is on his last legs, but still driving outstandingly even at this age. Appreciate & admire it rather than looking at no: of championship titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonso14 View Post
    I can dismiss 2011 & 2013 without giving it a second thought. If he didn't win those, he should have retired on the spot.

    2010 & 2012, while some amazing drives, his lack of consistency and talent sometimes meant he wrapped the championship in the last race while driving the best car on the grid.

    Championships don't count as much in sport like F1. If Rosberg wins the WDC would that make him a top 3 driver?

    Championship is not the only criteria to rank, but it is the most important criteria for ranking.
    If am to dismiss a championship, I dismiss that championship that certain individual won using mass dampers system.. and depriving our own ferrari from a legit deserving title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Even though vettel won 2012 WDC title, alonso rated as best driver in the paddock. Why is that...??? Did vettel get that rating, rating wise alonso >>>>>>> vettel. Yes u r right alonso is on his last legs, but still driving outstandingly even at this age. Appreciate & admire it rather than looking at no: of championship titles.

    In 2012, it was close call. But I think seb put a distance, when he won two more titles.
    There is reason why vettel will be the highest paid driver in f1 history. And why we are paying him, what we never paid alonso. Thats because he is better.

    You can put alonso's name next to hakkinen, villeneuve, damon hill of this world.. Vettel belongs in the category of schumacher, senna..

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