Scuderia Ferrari SF16-H Development thread.

**SashAlex** · 23rd February 2016, 12:04

I'm not into liveries at all. Don't care. This shouldn't be a topic of discussion at all. But perhaps today fans care more about liveries and looks than the performance of the car.

**Stormy** · 23rd February 2016, 13:34

Originally Posted by SashAlex

I'm not into liveries at all. Don't care. This shouldn't be a topic of discussion at all. But perhaps today fans care more about liveries and looks than the performance of the car.

How can you say liveries are not important at all? Come on, don't be a hipster dude. Liveries are important, especially for teams like Ferrari who have an outstanding history. Of course we need to preserve that design that represent Ferrari throughout the years.

**stefa** · 23rd February 2016, 13:38

Originally Posted by Stormy

How can you say liveries are not important at all? Come on, don't be a hipster dude. Liveries are important, especially for teams like Ferrari who have an outstanding history. Of course we need to preserve that design that represent Ferrari throughout the years.

Agree

Red, red and red!!!!

**stefa** · 23rd February 2016, 13:40

Originally Posted by Nero Horse

What?! You can't possibly be serious? Because that is just total rubbish and you know it. The SF16-H looks very beautiful with this new retro livery, and most people agree with that. All the polls on the internet where people have been asked whether they like the new Ferrari look or not have shown that "YES" most people like it, for example on one poll where more than 1200 people voted there were 79% of votes for "YES - I like it" and on another poll there were 77% of votes for "YES". And I've even seen merc fanboys saying that this Ferrari livery is beautiful and cool. So it's just you, stefa, and some others that don't like it, but the majority opinion is definitely very positive.

As I said, no point to discuss about taste. I don't like it, you and majority like it, and I am fine with that. Life goes on. So far... So good... So what?!? Let's start winning and achieve at the end WDC and CWC and everything will be fine.

**darkchild** · 23rd February 2016, 14:04

Car has beautiful lines looking from top, rear and side but not from front IMO. Nose is just ugly. Livery is not good, its a bit messy and busy but it can look beautiful depending on angle.

**stefa** · 23rd February 2016, 17:26

Originally Posted by darkchild

Car has beautiful lines looking from top, rear and side but not from front IMO. Nose is just ugly. Livery is not good, its a bit messy and busy but it can look beautiful depending on angle.

Beauty is in the eye of beholder!

**Tony** · 23rd February 2016, 20:33

Originally Posted by Nero Horse

What?! You can't possibly be serious? Because that is just total rubbish and you know it. The SF16-H looks very beautiful with this new retro livery, and most people agree with that. All the polls on the internet where people have been asked whether they like the new Ferrari look or not have shown that "YES" most people like it, for example on one poll where more than 1200 people voted there were 79% of votes for "YES - I like it" and on another poll there were 77% of votes for "YES". And I've even seen merc fanboys saying that this Ferrari livery is beautiful and cool. So it's just you, stefa, and some others that don't like it, but the majority opinion is definitely very positive.

Beauty is subjective, he doesn't have to like the car or find it pretty and his comments most certainly are not rubbish just because they are not agreed to by you or even the mainstream...

If everyone agreed on everything, message boards would not be interesting places to post on...

**Hornet** · 24th February 2016, 11:52

Originally Posted by SashAlex

I'm not into liveries at all. Don't care. This shouldn't be a topic of discussion at all. But perhaps today fans care more about liveries and looks than the performance of the car.

You say that like we were all allowed only one topic to discuss

Discussing about aesthetics doesn't imply that it's more important than anything else. It's simply one of the things people can talk about.

If you don't care, that's fine, no one is forced to discuss it.

**ferrari4life** · 24th February 2016, 20:13

Originally Posted by Hornet

You say that like we were all allowed only one topic to discuss

Discussing about aesthetics doesn't imply that it's more important than anything else. It's simply one of the things people can talk about.

If you don't care, that's fine, no one is forced to discuss it.

except on a thread that is marked as the car development thread you have to scroll though pages to find anything of relevance discussing development.

I guess liveries are part of the development

**TigerKing** · 24th February 2016, 20:29

Liveries just make the car attractive. Personally I don't care as long as they're not all the same (silver) and the cars are entertaining.

**darkchild** · 25th February 2016, 00:18

There seems to be quite a bit more volume with our car then Merc

**f300v10** · 25th February 2016, 00:49

Originally Posted by darkchild

There seems to be quite a bit more volume with our car then Merc

The black paint on the back of the Merc makes it look smaller. They are very similar to me, with the Ferrari having more space above the diffusor/floor. The perspective on the photos is not the exact same either, but still informative though. All of the cars have really converged on a very similar shape.

**NenoX** · 25th February 2016, 02:08

Originally Posted by darkchild

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb1tz6VW0AEN5Sv.jpg

There seems to be quite a bit more volume with our car then Merc

If you're talking about the sidepods then yes the SF-16H does have more volume there.
This is attributed to the difference between PU design and cooling design. Just look at the bulge on the rear of the roll hoop of the Merc.
This can be seen as well on other Merc customers.

The SF-16H does get tighter mid-way then opens up towards the end compared to merc.

**Rob** · 25th February 2016, 07:54

cannt really get good comparison in that picture, different ankle. More of our sidepod showing due to turning left.

**F1NAC** · 25th February 2016, 08:23

Our undercut starts earlier than on mercs

**SashAlex** · 25th February 2016, 10:38

Originally Posted by Stormy

How can you say liveries are not important at all? Come on, don't be a hipster dude. Liveries are important, especially for teams like Ferrari who have an outstanding history. Of course we need to preserve that design that represent Ferrari throughout the years.

Look, if the livery is a bit different than the previous ones, perhaps a bit worse, I'm not gonna run and cry around. That's my point. If this year there is more white to add some vintage tone to the car and it's not the most harmonious looking, at the end of the day it doesn't matter to me. I might not like it initially, but I become tolerant with time with it, like we all do. The only thing I couldn't swallow was the 2014 nose. Everythings else, liveries, noses, bodyworks are things that you subconsciously get used and don't notice with time.

**SashAlex** · 25th February 2016, 10:42

Originally Posted by Hornet

You say that like we were all allowed only one topic to discuss

Discussing about aesthetics doesn't imply that it's more important than anything else. It's simply one of the things people can talk about.

If you don't care, that's fine, no one is forced to discuss it.

What's the name of the topic, bro?

**hattrick** · 26th February 2016, 09:59

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**zike** · 26th February 2016, 10:23

Originally Posted by hattrick

http://i.imgur.com/1JztOXY.png

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**bondilad** · 26th February 2016, 10:38

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**jragona** · 26th February 2016, 11:03

Originally Posted by darkchild

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb1tz6VW0AEN5Sv.jpg

There seems to be quite a bit more volume with our car then Merc

Are you sure its not a trick of the light with the dark colour of the Merc? The Ferrari is smaller than the Merc, but then fans out right at the back, this must be for some aero effect. Also the Ferrari diffuser looks better developed than the Merc.

**f300v10** · 26th February 2016, 19:37

Ferrari tested a serrated Gurney flap on the rear wing. You have to zoom in to see it well, so open the image in a new tab and zoom.

**jragona** · 26th February 2016, 20:04

Originally Posted by f300v10

Ferrari tested a serrated Gurney flap on the rear wing.

Good spot, I hope we will see a lot of new parts in the next test.

**NenoX** · 27th February 2016, 00:25

Originally Posted by f300v10

Ferrari tested a serrated Gurney flap on the rear wing. You have to zoom in to see it well, so open the image in a new tab and zoom.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-conten...1342_HiRes.jpg

Are we talking about the cheese grater like end of the RW main flap? or was that a separate thing from the Gurneys you spotted? :D

**gjoko-mkd** · 27th February 2016, 09:42

Originally Posted by NenoX

Are we talking about the cheese grater like end of the RW main flap? or was that a separate thing from the Gurneys you spotted? :D

**f300v10** · 27th February 2016, 13:19

Yes, and I never claimed to have been the one to spot it. I saw it hadn't been mentioned in this thread so I added it. I saw it via twitter post by @RoboCoPJ.

**darkchild** · 27th February 2016, 13:49

According to F1AT Ferrari tried more aggressive nose, like new STR, but failed crash test therefore went with the current one.

**NenoX** · 27th February 2016, 14:05

Originally Posted by f300v10

Yes, and I never claimed to have been the one to spot it. I saw it hadn't been mentioned in this thread so I added it. I saw it via twitter post by @RoboCoPJ.

Oh no worries about that. I just thought I saw something different from the one you were pointing out

. Those certainly are new since they are at the end of the wing. Mclaren tried 2yrs ago I believe and they placed on the leading edge of the main flap and the trailing edge of the lower flap

**bondilad** · 27th February 2016, 14:46

Originally Posted by darkchild

According to F1AT Ferrari tried more aggressive nose, like new STR, but failed crash test therefore went with the current one.

If true I'm a bit surprised why we couldn't pass the crash test. since we've spent quite a lot of time on the new car and one thing that was surely going to change was the nose and that too should have given us the best aerodynamic gains. Any idea if we are bringing a new nose to the next test?

**darkchild** · 27th February 2016, 15:04

They said no. Not in melbourne either.

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