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    Quote Originally Posted by Gianlu27 View Post
    We made an article about that :) http://www.circusf1.com/2016/01/tutt...eadysetred.php

    But you're right: it could be for a WebTv, Interviews, new youtube channel.. But I think it could be also for the new theme park in PortAventura (as you said), the Ferrari Land :)
    Yes i know!!! I read it from you on twitter!!
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    Known launch dates for teams from circusf1.com:

    Presentations F1 2016: THE COMPLETE CALENDAR


    TEAM DATA (NOW) LOCATION
    McLaren TBD (TBD) Woking / Barcelona
    Ferrari February 19 (12:00) Maranello / Online
    Sauber ## February (TBD) OnLine
    Haas February 21 (TBD) Barcelona, ​​Spain
    Toro Rosso February 21 (17:00) Barcelona, ​​Spain
    Mercedes February 22 (8:30) Barcelona, ​​Spain
    Red Bull February 22 (8:30) Barcelona, ​​Spain
    Williams February 22 (8:30) Barcelona, ​​Spain (online rendering preview)
    Manor TBD (TBD) TBD
    Renault TBD (TBD) TDB (online rendering preview)
    Force India TBD (TBD) TBD

    Note: Some dates are still to be defined, while others may still undergo some changes.


    Then let us remember that the F1 test for the upcoming 2016 season will take place on the track at Montmelo in Barcelona in Spain. The first session of four days is scheduled Feb. 22 to 25, and the second from 1 to 4 March.

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    I thought Ferrari was supposed to launch today?
    Or is this announcement something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    I thought Ferrari was supposed to launch today?
    Or is this announcement something else.
    I checked the site, and it's sorta a contest to play a major role in the online launch of the new car.
    Points are counted if you post on your social media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    Yes i know!!! I read it from you on twitter!!
    Oh thanks!

    Stay tuned because today or tomorrow on CircusF1 we are going to make an article with all rumors about the new Ferrari (also in English) :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gianlu27 View Post
    Oh thanks!

    Stay tuned because today or tomorrow on CircusF1 we are going to make an article with all rumors about the new Ferrari (also in English) :)
    Post it on twitter and i will read it!!!!Thanks!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gianlu27 View Post
    Oh thanks!

    Stay tuned because today or tomorrow on CircusF1 we are going to make an article with all rumors about the new Ferrari (also in English) :)
    Great stuff! Will it be summary of everything we know or some new info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    Post it on twitter and i will read it!!!!Thanks!!
    Good

    Quote Originally Posted by darkchild View Post
    Great stuff! Will it be summary of everything we know or some new info?
    Everything we know + more info :)

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    Please let us know when the article is up. Grazie!

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    TEAM DATA (NOW) LOCATION
    McLaren February 21
    Ferrari February 19 (12:00) Maranello / Online
    Sauber March 1
    Haas February 21 (TBD) Barcelona, ​​Spain
    Toro Rosso February 21 (17:00) Barcelona, ​​Spain
    Mercedes February 22 (8:30) Barcelona, ​​Spain
    Red Bull February 22 (8:30) Barcelona, ​​Spain
    Williams February 22 (8:30) Barcelona, ​​Spain (online rendering preview)
    Manor TBD (TBD) TBD
    Renault TBD (TBD) TDB (online rendering preview)
    Force India TBD (TBD) TBD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifoso View Post
    Please let us know when the article is up. Grazie!
    Took my words!

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    How will the Ferrari F1 2016?

    How will the Ferrari F1 2016? Watch our exclusive graphics
    Posted On 18 January, 2016By: Gianluca D'AlessandroComment: 0Tags: 2016 , F1 , Ferrari , technical

    Ended the 2015 Formula 1 season, fans have now turned their attention to 2016 and, in particular, to one of the most interesting moments of the year: the presentation of new cars . The team that should make major changes to their car is rumored to be the Ferrari which, as we told you here on the pages of CircusF1.com, should be presented online on February 19 , a few days before the start of the first test season.

    Thanks to the many rumors proposed again by the Italian press let us look at what should be the guidelines of the 2016 Ferrari.

    Let's start first with the front of the car , one of the areas that will be subject to major changes. As reported by both the "Gazzetta dello Sport" that " Autosprint ", after years in which the Maranello team had proposed the use of the suspension of pull-rod front, Ferrari have finally decided to return to a more ranking, relying on a push-rod suspension . Over the past years it was the pull-rod suspension to take the majority of the charges for lack of competitiveness compared to the opponents of the latest Red: commissioned in 2012 by Nicholas Tombazis and Pat Fry, James Allison would have decided to go back to something more classic and more practical. The push-rod suspension, in fact, allow engineers to facilitate the research work in the set-up during the weekend of the race: the lower triangle , however, should remain the same which had been adopted on the SF15-T, inspired from the analogous idea Mercedes introduced in 2014. Other small changes of the area of the suspension would be in the air vents of the brakes because of the change, they should be redesigned. The brake calipers , now lying down in style Red Bull, would remain, however, in the same position, after satisfactory results from this configuration data in 2015.

    Always remaining in the front of the car, we can say that according to rumors reported in Ferrari have decided to leave the muzzle "along" the SF15-T and switch to a more "short" : in reality James Allison had revealed that in Maranello He worked already before the ' summer 2015 on a short version of the muzzle only to temporarily set aside the issue for development focus on other areas of the car. The short muzzle, however, after further study and analysis, should be proposed on the Ferrari 2016: according Autosprint it would be a solution similar to that adopted in the last season by the Toro Rosso , so you can make the most of the Regulation. This solution will allow to increase the section between the pilots and support the wing, allowing a greater flow of air to the bottom of the car and, consequently, improving the aerodynamic load generated at the front: in this way it should be ensured a kind of balance with the revised rear of the car, going to even increase downforce that will be generated by "streamlining" of the same rear. Even " Omnicorse "has confirmed the use of a short snout on Ferrari in 2016 but assuming that this is similar to that used in 2015 by Mercedes. Staying on the front Autosprint reports that, in the future, Maranello's engineers could also adopt a solution already seen during 2015, namely the ' S-Duct : proposal at the time, however, seems to be more a case linked to developments in-season rather than a solution already present at the launch of the car in February. The short snout style Red Bull had been anticipated about 6 months ago from friends NewsF1.it , as you can see in this video: there will be some changes with respect to the proposed model, but the basic idea should be the same.

    After analyzing the news that might be present at the front, let's move into the central part of the car , focusing our attention on bellies and Power Unit . The main problem of the SF15-T in the central and rear of the car were the bellies that "closed" much later than the other top teams: this is not allowed to have a lean back like that of McLaren and Red Bull for example . Even compared to Mercedes, there was a deficit which, however, should be reduced with the new car in 2016: the problem of the size of the side pods was linked mainly to issues of space-related elements of the power unit (base, MGU-K, turbo more great etc.) and questions of cooling unit. 'Engine Maranello, however, have worked hard throughout the second half of 2015 and during the winter to rearrange the elements of the Power Unit , trying to create a unit more streamlined, so that the aerodynamic had more freedom in designing the lines of the new car.

    In Maranello they would work hard especially on the power unit. As reported by "Autospint" and the "Gazzetta dello Sport", the ' MGU-K will now have a new position : no more behind the engine, as in 2015, but on the left side of the engine itself. L ' intercooler should be removed from the "V" presumably to be positioned in the frame. Further changes should concern the provision of ' MGU-H and the new base , now narrower than the version installed on the Power Unit 2015. These changes should allow a streamlining of bellies, favoring downforce, which is a kind of throwback Already in 2014 Ferrari had tried to create a narrower rear to benefit aerodynamics but, compared to the time in Maranello can count on a greater and more in-depth knowledge of the new hybrid engines, which would allow him to not repeat the mistakes made ​​two seasons ago. Of note as to undergo a small change could be even radiators , we speak of an inclination slightly revised to some degree.

    Moving on, in conclusion, to the rear of the car , the attention was focused on change and sull'engine cover . On the car in 2016 should be an engine cover and a change completely revised. Especially in Maranello we have been working hard to reduce the size of the change, obtaining rigidity values ​​never reached before. It will be revised in part also the rear suspension : will always remain the schema pull-rod, but will be modified the size of some components, in order to improve the traction and the use of the tires harder compound. Latest news that we add, is the speaker of the new Ferrari should be reviewed in many places, making it different from that seen in the past season.

    http://www.circusf1.com/2016/01/come...-esclusive.php

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    The original is in Italian, translated with Google Translate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifoso View Post
    Please let us know when the article is up. Grazie!
    Here it is

    Italian: http://www.circusf1.com/2016/01/come...-esclusive.php

    English: http://www.circusf1.com/2016/01/how-...new-f1-car.php

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    300 bar cylinder pressure??!?!! 500 bar injector/rail pressure is ok, but 4300+ psi cylinder pressure?? That's hard to believe..

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    Thanks, Gianluca, very nice summary
    Forza Ferrari !
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    FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!

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    Gee its quiet here..Anyone see the F16 yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova View Post
    Gee its quiet here..Anyone see the F16 yet?
    Apparently Vettel has been testing the 2014 car at Fiorano, ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova View Post
    Gee its quiet here..Anyone see the F16 yet?
    The Ferrari staff i guess!!!
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    Technical analysis: Combustion secret to Ferrari 2016 hopes



    Ferrari is bullish it can start the 2016 Formula 1 season on the top step of the podium. Franco Nugnes looks at the Italian squad's plans to make the step to beat Mercedes in Australia.

    Formula 1 teams well know the PR dangers that come from over-promising and under-delivering, which makes Ferrari’s recent bold statements of intent about a winning start in Melbourne intriguing.

    President Sergio Marchionne is adamant that from the first race, Ferrari must be a Mercedes-beater. But is this all just wishful thinking, or does he know something that those outside the team are unaware of?

    Here, we look at the design avenues that Ferrari have been looking at in a bid to overhaul the Silver Arrows, especially when it comes to closing down the horsepower deficit the Prancing Horse has faced.

    Engine focus

    Perhaps Marchionne's optimism of an attacking start is based on the reality of encouraging data that is coming out of Maranello, both in terms of aerodynamics and, more significantly, on the engine front.

    And could it be in the latter area – with it widely accepted that much of Mercedes' dominance has been based on its brilliant power unit execution – where Ferrari has made some significant gains.

    300 bar pressure

    According to Motorsport.com sources, Ferrari's focus in engine development this winter – helped by an easing of development restrictions – has been on the combustion chamber of the new 059/5 V6 engine.

    It is suggested that chief designer Lorenzo Sassi has pushed for an innovative direction, both in terms of packaging but also in terms of performance.

    One target that has been set has been to reach a 300 bar pressure in the combustion chamber, much higher than last year's figures that were understood to be around 220-240 bar.

    Operating like a diesel

    Ferrari's aim is to reduce the ignition time, and make the engine operate in a similar way to a diesel with auto-combustion.

    If you can get the fuel to burn before the ignition spark, through high pressure within the chamber, then that will deliver a substantial increase in power. It's easy to say but very complicated to carry out.

    Variable intake trumpets



    Achieving that target can be improved by bringing fresh air inside the combustion chamber, and Ferrari has decided to optimise this area with variable geometry.

    Although variable intake trumpets (PICTURED) were banned in 2014, they were allowed from last year, although Ferrari did not pursue that route initially.

    Last year, Ferrari has its compressor and intercooler between the cylinder banks (SEE MAIN IMAGE ABOVE) – but these are now set to be moved to make way for the variable intake trumpets. There will also be bigger air and water intercoolers than last year.

    Temperature issues

    Higher pressure inside the combustion chamber to create auto combustion will obviously result in higher operating temperatures – perhaps up to 1100 degrees Centigrade.

    This is why cooling has become a big focus too – especially with there being a limit of five engines for the 21 grands prix scheduled to take place this year.

    Closer partnerships

    Well aware of how Mercedes has made good gains through its close relationship with Petronas, so too Ferrari is working in unison with its fuel supplier Shell, to deliver a product that fits in with the characteristics it wants.

    With Magneti Marelli too, there has been revisions to the injectors to ramp up the pressure to 500 bar – and a new carbon fuel pump.

    Ferrari is also eager to ensure that performance gains do not compromise reliability, with engine chief Mattia Binotto having utilised facilities at AVL Graz under the supervision of Wolf Zimmermann, a specialist who brought with him knowledge from Mercedes when he joined in 2014.

    Work ongoing

    It is clear Ferrari is leaving no stone unturned in its bid to deliver on the high targets being set by Marchionne. With still more than one month to go before the first test, its efforts are not easing off, but the proof of its work will only come when cars hit the track for the first time.

    All eyes then will be on Barcelona.


    Article at: http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/te...-hopes-668712/
    KEEP CALM AND LOVE FERRARI


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero Horse View Post
    http://cdn-2.motorsport.com/static/i...ine-layout.jpg

    Ferrari is bullish it can start the 2016 Formula 1 season on the top step of the podium. Franco Nugnes looks at the Italian squad's plans to make the step to beat Mercedes in Australia.

    Formula 1 teams well know the PR dangers that come from over-promising and under-delivering, which makes Ferrari’s recent bold statements of intent about a winning start in Melbourne intriguing.

    President Sergio Marchionne is adamant that from the first race, Ferrari must be a Mercedes-beater. But is this all just wishful thinking, or does he know something that those outside the team are unaware of?

    Here, we look at the design avenues that Ferrari have been looking at in a bid to overhaul the Silver Arrows, especially when it comes to closing down the horsepower deficit the Prancing Horse has faced.

    Engine focus

    Perhaps Marchionne's optimism of an attacking start is based on the reality of encouraging data that is coming out of Maranello, both in terms of aerodynamics and, more significantly, on the engine front.

    And could it be in the latter area – with it widely accepted that much of Mercedes' dominance has been based on its brilliant power unit execution – where Ferrari has made some significant gains.

    300 bar pressure

    According to Motorsport.com sources, Ferrari's focus in engine development this winter – helped by an easing of development restrictions – has been on the combustion chamber of the new 059/5 V6 engine.

    It is suggested that chief designer Lorenzo Sassi has pushed for an innovative direction, both in terms of packaging but also in terms of performance.

    One target that has been set has been to reach a 300 bar pressure in the combustion chamber, much higher than last year's figures that were understood to be around 220-240 bar.

    Operating like a diesel

    Ferrari's aim is to reduce the ignition time, and make the engine operate in a similar way to a diesel with auto-combustion.

    If you can get the fuel to burn before the ignition spark, through high pressure within the chamber, then that will deliver a substantial increase in power. It's easy to say but very complicated to carry out.

    Variable intake trumpets

    http://cdn-3.motorsport.com/static/i...s-assembly.jpg

    Achieving that target can be improved by bringing fresh air inside the combustion chamber, and Ferrari has decided to optimise this area with variable geometry.

    Although variable intake trumpets (PICTURED) were banned in 2014, they were allowed from last year, although Ferrari did not pursue that route initially.

    Last year, Ferrari has its compressor and intercooler between the cylinder banks (SEE MAIN IMAGE ABOVE) – but these are now set to be moved to make way for the variable intake trumpets. There will also be bigger air and water intercoolers than last year.

    Temperature issues

    Higher pressure inside the combustion chamber to create auto combustion will obviously result in higher operating temperatures – perhaps up to 1100 degrees Centigrade.

    This is why cooling has become a big focus too – especially with there being a limit of five engines for the 21 grands prix scheduled to take place this year.

    Closer partnerships

    Well aware of how Mercedes has made good gains through its close relationship with Petronas, so too Ferrari is working in unison with its fuel supplier Shell, to deliver a product that fits in with the characteristics it wants.

    With Magneti Marelli too, there has been revisions to the injectors to ramp up the pressure to 500 bar – and a new carbon fuel pump.

    Ferrari is also eager to ensure that performance gains do not compromise reliability, with engine chief Mattia Binotto having utilised facilities at AVL Graz under the supervision of Wolf Zimmermann, a specialist who brought with him knowledge from Mercedes when he joined in 2014.

    Work ongoing

    It is clear Ferrari is leaving no stone unturned in its bid to deliver on the high targets being set by Marchionne. With still more than one month to go before the first test, its efforts are not easing off, but the proof of its work will only come when cars hit the track for the first time.

    All eyes then will be on Barcelona.


    Article at: http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/te...-hopes-668712/
    This is than very detailed secret

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    FERRARI 2016: HERE’S WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR THE PRANCING HORSE

    http://essentiallysports.com/ferrari...rancing-horse/

    The year 2016 marks the third year we find ourselves in this revamped Turbo era of Formula One. Teams now have stacks of data that puts even Vatican archives to shame. So with this much knowledge and lessons that have been learnt over two years, engineers at Maranello & Ferrari have (supposedly) come up with a new engine design, albeit the same 1.6L Turbo Charged V6 with hybrid electronic systems on board called the MGU-H (Motor Generator Unit – Heat ) and the MGU-K (Motor Generator Unit – Kinetic ).

    2015 marked the revival of Ferrari and it was largely due to their massive improvements in the hybrid area of the Power Unit as they rectified the harvesting and deployment problems that bugged them in 2014. People were so astonished at the Italian team’s victory in Malaysia in 2015 that it made Maurizio Arrivabene exclaim “Ferrari’s back!”. But to everyone’s realistic approach, they were not. Not yet, at least.

    However, the gains of 2015 weren’t insignificant either. Almost matching the Mercedes’ Power Unit in terms of absolute power led to the prancing horse’s increased speed over the winter. The Ferrari 1.6L V6 Internal Combustion (IC) engine is said to be at par with the Mercedes and with improvements planned for 2016 to the packaging and the overall structure and packaging of the car, one can be cautiously optimistic about the scarlet cars taking the chequered flag first or at least making the 3-Star Silver Arrows work for their wins.

    In 2015, Ferrari was the only team to have the MGU-H housed outside the V part of the IC engine and like Honda and Mercedes, had a split Turbo, with the MGU-H effectively placed in between the turbine and the compressor. Effectively, this made the MGU-H interact more efficiently with both the halves of the Turbocharger, generate electricity when most needed and likewise with the turbo, spooling deployment so as to prevent the prevalent Turbo Lag. Ferrari also housed the Intercooler within the V shape of the engine to save space and make the unit a bit more compact and well packaged.

    comparison.jpg

    Intercooler is used to cool the compressed air after it has passed through the compressor which is then used for combustion in the cylinders. Cooler air aids in a more efficient burning of fuel and the excess compressed air sucked in at a high pressure due to the Turbocharger increases the overall performance of the engine.

    In 2016, Ferrari is looking to continue riding this hybrid roller coaster in an upward trajectory. Their confidence in the software and the chemistry between all the components of the power unit has allowed them to reposition bits and pieces of the complex puzzle so as to ensure the most efficient packaging at the rear of the car for better aerodynamics and a thinner rear end.

    Many pundits believe that it was the Ferrari chassis that was lacking compared to the Mercedes W06 rather than the power unit by the end of the season in 2015. So to enhance and help their aerodynamics department, the engineers at the engine side of the factory have developed a keen and interesting concept.

    They have now combined the Compressor and Turbine, thereby reuniting the Turbocharger but have now taken the MGU-H and fitted it into the V of the engine, but unlike Honda in 2015, they have plenty of space to make sure their MGU-H and Turbo work in harmony and operate at peak performance all the time. Renault also has an un-split Turbocharger but their real concern is the IC engine itself, so Ferrari may be onto something here.

    Repositioning the MGU-H made them remove the Intercooler from inside the V and onto what will be the floor of the car. This has two benefits – It will enable the car to have a lower Centre of Gravity (COG) than before which in turn promotes greater handling and general overall stability of the car as it is subjected to lesser roll while cornering and also, it will be further away from the major heat sources and would perform its cooling job more efficiently, thereby increasing power as well. Another major change is the repositioning of the MGU-K which has so far been the unsung hero of this article.

    MGU-K is just a “big daddy” version of the infamous KERS systems used previously by the teams. It is connected to the crankshaft and is used to harvest energy wasted under braking and deploy this energy or stored energy via the crankshaft for a momentary boost as and when required.

    For 2016, as shown in the picture, Ferrari has taken the MGU-K from the rear of the engine and put it near the Intercooler that is in front of the engine, as this in my opinion would slim the engine down further at the rear which has been the aim of the team for the coming year.

    Slimming the rear end would definitely make life easier for the aero department guys as it frees up space on the floor and give a better and cleaner flow to the rear of the car which in turn helps the diffuser and increases the rear downforce.

    So, all in all, whether this engine will provide the boost needed by Ferrari to chase down the pace setters of the past two years, only time will tell, but in theory, the design is technically sound and will add on to the gains of 2015.

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    It is amazing what kind of potential improvements the engine still has
    Despite everybody is moaning about the current engine type there is still much to unveil .... wow ...
    The mess is that you only can do something in the winter ... and loose a year if you went wrong in this short winter preparation.

    hope this pays off like it did last year already ...
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    They need to allow the development of camless operation of the engine. They are already spending hundreds of millions in R&D every year, and camless technology has the biggest potential to massively improve efficiency, while at the same time reducing complexity. If it happens then we will really see technology transfer to the road cars.

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    Camless engines sound great, thats a great idea for F1. It would make the engines more efficient, lighter and give them more performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cokata View Post
    They need to allow the development of camless operation of the engine. They are already spending hundreds of millions in R&D every year, and camless technology has the biggest potential to massively improve efficiency, while at the same time reducing complexity. If it happens then we will really see technology transfer to the road cars.
    Maybe Bernie should announce that the engines are being kept until 2020 when the engine rules will allow the production of V6 camless engines with ERS output (would produce a HUGE amount of power and efficiency). That way the engine manufacturers will have enough time to perfect a camless engine come 2021.
    Vous resterez toujours en nos coeurs, Jules.

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    I keep reading in sites all over the world,about our new "special" PU,so this must have some credibility!!!!
    I'm also thinking that this is connected with the dicision of Ferrari not to use the last 4 tokens in inseason development,but to use them "secretly" on the bench!!!!
    And everybody keep saying that if this rumors proved correct,then we are talking about something really special here that can make the difference!!!!!!
    FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!

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    If what is speculated about the engine for next season is true, we can expect a bigger jump in power then the one from 2014->2015. If they get the HCCI (Homogeneous charge compression ignition) working even remotely well, the power jump will be immense. I am sceptical though as it is very hard to fine tune auto ignition with an already mixed air+gasoline.

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    It is really great to read all this about Ferrari is taking a risk and trying to produce something new. But I don't wan't to be hyped that much about it until I see the results! Seeing is believing!

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