Scuderia Ferrari SF16-H Development thread.

**PURE PASSION** · 17th March 2016, 12:49

Originally Posted by jpalmito

Don't forget we have to count three tokens last year on the PU which we didn't use on track.
So the basic of improvement is 23+3 =26 tokens.
Great job by the team !

I think it was 4 tokens left last year.I'm i wrong?

**mhmalik** · 17th March 2016, 15:49

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

I think it was 4 tokens left last year.I'm i wrong?

No it was 4 tokens from last year, which we applied to the engine but never used that configuration

**PURE PASSION** · 17th March 2016, 15:54

Originally Posted by mhmalik

No it was 4 tokens from last year, which we applied to the engine but never used that configuration

**gjoko-mkd** · 17th March 2016, 17:05

Are those holes or this is a optical illusion?

**gvera** · 17th March 2016, 17:28

Originally Posted by gjoko-mkd

Are those holes or this is a optical illusion?

You cannot say, probably those are just a bend in the floor and an added small aero plate. We need a photo from a better angle.
I'm happy Ferrari has brought a new flñoor, hope it works.

**Dino** · 17th March 2016, 18:06

Originally Posted by gvera

You cannot say, probably those are just a bend in the floor and an added small aero plate. We need a photo from a better angle.
I'm happy Ferrari has brought a new flñoor, hope it works.

http://www.f1analisitecnica.com/2016...a-ferrari.html

**tifosi1993** · 17th March 2016, 20:04

17/03/2016 (Melbourne, Australia)

**mark p** · 17th March 2016, 21:23

Originally Posted by gvera

You cannot say, probably those are just a bend in the floor and an added small aero plate. We need a photo from a better angle.
I'm happy Ferrari has brought a new flñoor, hope it works.

Another forum says they are holes and have been there last year but with raised gearbox you can see more. Apparently they are allowed for additional cooling.

On another note great pictures can see lots of very fine details especially the little teeth on the front wing.

**f300v10** · 18th March 2016, 00:51

Originally Posted by mark p

Another forum says they are holes and have been there last year but with raised gearbox you can see more. Apparently they are allowed for additional cooling.

On another note great pictures can see lots of very fine details especially the little teeth on the front wing.

They are not holes. Holes in the floor (other than for the starter motor) are not allowed. They were specifically banned after the 2009 double diffuser fiasco. The dip/channel is formed by the floor curving down to form the central plank area under the center of the car.

This is not a current image, but the central plank rules geometry has not been changed:

A similar but smaller channel was present last year on the SF-15T. The higher gearbox and slimmer bodywork at the rear of the SF-16H have opened up more space so the channel is more exposed. This allows more airflow over the top of the diffusor which increases downforce generated.

Here is a similar shot of the SF-15T:

**theodorefabrice** · 18th March 2016, 05:00

The pillar passing through the exhaust seems rather complex to me, don't you think ?
Would it be legal to use heat to bend the rear spoiler ?
Assuming that the longer you use full throttle, the less downforce you need.

**FerrariF60** · 18th March 2016, 09:44

we're still NOT running the monkey seat???? anyone know why??

**Nick Singer** · 18th March 2016, 09:48

What's/ where's the stuff about our engine/ power issue?

**jragona** · 18th March 2016, 10:30

Originally Posted by FerrariF60

we're still NOT running the monkey seat???? anyone know why??

The car needs to be balanced, this must mean the rear produces more downforce than the front so the car doesn't need the monkey seat.

**PURE PASSION** · 18th March 2016, 11:30

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**jragona** · 18th March 2016, 11:42

The Haas car is like a 2015/16 merge. The exact measurements of the 2016 car but with the aero more similar to 2015.

**mkable1370** · 18th March 2016, 17:21

Originally Posted by theodorefabrice

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...34a-935582.jpg

The pillar passing through the exhaust seems rather complex to me, don't you think ?
Would it be legal to use heat to bend the rear spoiler ?
Assuming that the longer you use full throttle, the less downforce you need.

I had kinda been thinking something similar. And I agree the center pillar assembly does look complex.
I like the ingenuity if it is as you suggest, but wouldn't that violate the rule against moveable aero devices?

**mkable1370** · 18th March 2016, 17:22

Originally Posted by FerrariF60

we're still NOT running the monkey seat???? anyone know why??

Maybe the revised rear end is producing enough downforce that its not needed? Teams only run one if the really need, since it does also produce drag too.

**theodorefabrice** · 19th March 2016, 05:29

Originally Posted by mkable1370

I had kinda been thinking something similar. And I agree the center pillar assembly does look complex.
I like the ingenuity if it is as you suggest, but wouldn't that violate the rule against moveable aero devices?

I think so. But as always in Formula one, you can't forbid a result, just solutions to acheave this result.

**PURE PASSION** · 22nd March 2016, 11:19

From Gianlu:

Arrivabene: "In Bahrain we will bring the first upgrades for the car"

**PURE PASSION** · 22nd March 2016, 15:35

Ferrari tire choice for Bahrain!!!!

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**Smintlemon** · 22nd March 2016, 16:01

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Ferrari tire choice for Bahrain!!!!

Nothing unexpectet. They start the race with SS first Stop SS second Stop S

**PURE PASSION** · 22nd March 2016, 16:28

Originally Posted by Smintlemon

Nothing unexpectet. They start the race with SS first Stop SS second Stop S

Then why the 3 sets of mediums and only 4 softs??

**Kyss4k** · 22nd March 2016, 16:48

I guess this time Merc won't go with medium for the race. That would be really bold from them without even trying it in the practice. So their strategy is kind of given. That's good for us I guess.

**subfire91** · 22nd March 2016, 16:53

Derated engine

Mercedes motorsport boss Toto Wolff also believed that a factor that could not be ignored was the fact that Vettel's engine appeared to be 'derated' (when electrical power runs down) in qualifying.

"For me qualifying was overall quite interesting because the gaps were bigger than expected and then on that second run in Q2, they actually had a pretty decent lap," he said.

"They weren't running at all after the first run in Q3. We see some derating of the engine, much more than last year, but we don't know what is happening within that car.

"So my personal opinion is that you see that potential in that car. We see the threat in that car. But they haven't been able to fully translate that into lap time."

**subfire91** · 22nd March 2016, 16:53

also a better Shell fuel spec expected to come

**Smintlemon** · 22nd March 2016, 16:55

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Then why the 3 sets of mediums and only 4 softs??

They need the Med for testing new parts on FP

**Silent Bob** · 22nd March 2016, 17:18

ya I agree. I think the mediums will be more for testing and the softs and ss's will be for the race.
The meds will allow longer stints with very steady lap times to evaluate new parts

**bondilad** · 22nd March 2016, 18:07

Even Williams have chosen three sets of mediums. I guess they are brining the new nose and upgrades to Bahrain as well. Looking forward to see the new bits in our car.