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Thread: What is going on with Sebastian Vettel

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwk360 View Post
    http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...king_mistakes/



    agree with most of this, add the fact his teammate barely ever takes points off from his rival when he has an off race too
    Yes but see, Toto Wolff has other things to say for this. Surely you know all about this, you've been flooding the forum with whatever he has to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infi24r View Post
    Alonso is currently out of an F1 contract for next year. I'm sure he'd come back and drive for Ferrari if the offer was made
    It will be a cold day in hell before Alonso drives for Ferrari again.
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    I think that was said about KR as well.
    "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

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    Quote Originally Posted by aroutis View Post
    Who are you to lay judgement to any of our drivers? That is only for the management of this team to do so.
    What is enough or not enough is not for you, me or anyone for that matter to say so.
    Great post, needed to be said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrc5555 View Post
    And you my friend are blind. After all mistakes from last year witch cost him title and mistakes from this year i think it is time to make it funeral...
    Last year the car was clearly behind Mercedes, this years car is on par. If you think otherwise you are the one being blind my friend.
    "It is very close – there is not much in the cars" Valtteri Bottas yesterday.
    Of course you know better.

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    Vettel has won 4 world titles with the "missile" RedBull.
    Vettel is not a talent, he's just a good driver.
    I am in love with Ferrari: Red Passion. Cheering for the drivers only to win the Ferrari!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IulianFerrari View Post
    Ferrari is on par with Mercedes, not better.
    this
    hockenheim 2018 / China 2018 : Never forget how quick Ferrari can lose it all, be humble.
    Positivity doesn't win you championships, whining about people being negative makes you blind!
    lol ignore the bitter old cows ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by IulianFerrari View Post
    Last year the car was clearly behind Mercedes, this years car is on par. If you think otherwise you are the one being blind my friend.
    "It is very close – there is not much in the cars" Valtteri Bottas yesterday.
    Of course you know better.

    That is the sad part. That car under vettel is the fastest car out there. Just like Hamilton eeks out a little bit more in qualy Seb does the same with the Ferrari. Just give us 7 clean races everyone will see how much faster Ferrari really is! Kimi isn't a reference point never is on race day

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    Kimi's pole, podiums, and all his points are as you say useless, we have Seb!! As long as the races are clean , no rain , no one along side him, Seb to the rescue, WCC ! Oh, and Kimi , move over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    Kimi's pole, podiums, and all his points are as you say useless, we have Seb!! As long as the races are clean , no rain , no one along side him, Seb to the rescue, WCC ! Oh, and Kimi , move over!
    Well Singapore looks like it will be wet all weekend

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    Here are some interesting stats about Seb this season per RaceFans.com:

    He spent 341 laps in the lead (more than 40% of all race laps) compared to Hamster's 250.

    His average quali position is 2.07 (failing to be in the top 3 only in Hungary - P4)

    He is -0.493s quicker than Kimi on average quali pace in q3.

    His average position gain on lap 1 is the worst of all drivers: -2. Next one? Kimi: -1.36

    His quali and race results so far:
    AUS (3) 1
    BAH (1) 1
    CHI (1) 8
    AZE (1) 4
    SPA (3) 4
    MON (2) 2
    CAN (1) 1
    FRA (3) 5
    AUS (6*) 3
    BRI (2) 1
    GER (1) -
    HUN (4) 2
    BEL (2) 1
    ITA (2) 4

    Point difference in 2017 and 2018. It was pretty much the same up until the Italian GP then everything went south... Please dont let history repeat itself.

    2017.jpeg

    2018.jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisFerrari View Post
    Here are some interesting stats about Seb this season per RaceFans.com:

    He spent 341 laps in the lead (more than 40% of all race laps) compared to Hamster's 250.

    His average quali position is 2.07 (failing to be in the top 3 only in Hungary - P4)

    He is -0.493s quicker than Kimi on average quali pace in q3.

    His average position gain on lap 1 is the worst of all drivers: -2. Next one? Kimi: -1.36

    His quali and race results so far:
    AUS (3) 1
    BAH (1) 1
    CHI (1) 8
    AZE (1) 4
    SPA (3) 4
    MON (2) 2
    CAN (1) 1
    FRA (3) 5
    AUS (6*) 3
    BRI (2) 1
    GER (1) -
    HUN (4) 2
    BEL (2) 1
    ITA (2) 4

    Point difference in 2017 and 2018. It was pretty much the same up until the Italian GP then everything went south... Please dont let history repeat itself.



    I'd add few more bits:

    Vettel's average Qualifying position: 2.07 but his average finishing position: 3.9
    Hamilton's average Qualifying position: 3.0, average finishing position: 3.1

    Vettel's qualifying ratio to Kimi: 11-3, but his finishing ratio to Kimi: 8-6
    Hamilton's qualifying ratio to Bottas: 9-5. finishing ratio: 11-3

    Number of podiums: Vettel (8), Hamilton (11)

    Number of DNF (due to reliability issues): Vettel (0), Hamilton (1)
    Number of DNF (due to crash): Vettel (1), Hamilton (0)

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    Two inferences: Ferrari is the fastest car & Seb is not capitalising on it
    “I prefer to beat them on Sunday” -Fernando Alonso, Press Conference Korean GP 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by aroutis View Post
    Who are you to lay judgement to any of our drivers? That is only for the management of this team to do so.
    What is enough or not enough is not for you, me or anyone for that matter to say so.
    Why, I wonder, does this forum exist then? Would it not be better then to ask the "Management of the Team"? I thought that the purpose of this forum was precisely to opine, among other things, on the drivers' performance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodwood View Post
    Why, I wonder, does this forum exist then? Would it not be better then to ask the "Management of the Team"? I thought that the purpose of this forum was precisely to opine, among other things, on the drivers' performance...
    The purpose of the forum is laid down in the forum rules.
    Why don't you go visit them and make sure you understand them.

    At any rate it is not up to any of us to say what is the purpose of the drivers, or any of the team members, or bash them for that matter. In fact, it's against the rules of the forum.
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