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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    true that.....OZ is not your typical hard core race track; i think we'll have to wait 3-4 races into next season to come up with a true answer of who's at the TOP and who's not

    the DIE HARD Ferrari fan that i am....i surely hope that FERRARI will be amongst the TOP contenders come 2017......we can only hope
    Although I agree that melbourne wouldn't really determine the true pecking order, I think it is really up to us to produce a car which is quick, straight out of the box around all tracks from the get go. In recent years, having waited to determine the pecking order hasn't really done much for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post
    already posted by Anrasp on post #144 at the END of page 5.....hello!!!!!!

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    I think the '16 campaign stagnated because of the death of Allison's wife and then internal politics on his return. Optimistically, Binotto may have managed things fantastically thereafter to stage the comeback that we did - but I wonder. Why do people think things improved so much after that point? It does bode well for 2017, but it could just be favourable timing after things did stagnate for so long.

    I'm optimistic and am hoping that Binotto is a fantastic manager and that the many many engineers that contribute to the project perhaps had more freedom to innovate and table ideas thereafter.

    It's certainly the most anticipated season since '09 and I'm the most optimistic I've been since then also. Time will tell, but I hope I'm not proven wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondilad View Post
    Although I agree that melbourne wouldn't really determine the true pecking order, I think it is really up to us to produce a car which is quick, straight out of the box around all tracks from the get go. In recent years, having waited to determine the pecking order hasn't really done much for us.
    I said it before, and I'll said it again. Good car is good on any given track!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    I said it before, and I'll said it again. Good car is good on any given track!
    +1000.
    The gap between us and mercedes(0,7s) last year in melbourne Is the average gap in q for the entire season.

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    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PadGeT View Post
    yeay.......Finally Stefa is gonna be super excited/happy if Ferrari will INDEED ditch the white livery and bring us a an ALL RED Scarlet in 2017......and to BOOT, wouldn't it be nice Stefa if it was FAST as well?????

    time will tell.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    yeay.......Finally Stefa is gonna be super excited/happy if Ferrari will INDEED ditch the white livery and bring us a an ALL RED Scarlet in 2017......and to BOOT, wouldn't it be nice Stefa if it was FAST as well?????

    time will tell.....
    Don't think it will be all red, more like pre 2016 livery.
    But to me, I don't have a problem with white , just hate the white linings between red and black.

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PadGeT View Post
    Don't think it will be all red, more like pre 2016 livery.
    But to me, I don't have a problem with white , just hate the white linings between red and black.
    it WAS WAY TOO MUCH WHITE on teh 2016 livery....i, myself hated it big time.....the ONLY white that the car should have is in the Ferrari/ "Marlborro" look alike cigarette pack that the Ferrari logo has.....adn that will be more then enough for me....

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    Imagine how the "too much white" moaners would have coped when the team wore yellow lol maybe we should go back to yellow as our traditional colour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Imagine how the "too much white" moaners would have coped when the team wore yellow lol maybe we should go back to yellow as our traditional colour
    or maybe NOT Greig.....yellow is mmmmuch uglier then white....although yellow rims would be nice....ha, ha....

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    FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    already posted by Anrasp on post #144 at the END of page 5.....hello!!!!!!
    Be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    yeay.......Finally Stefa is gonna be super excited/happy if Ferrari will INDEED ditch the white livery and bring us a an ALL RED Scarlet in 2017......and to BOOT, wouldn't it be nice Stefa if it was FAST as well?????

    time will tell.....
    Would be super nice!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Imagine how the "too much white" moaners would have coped when the team wore yellow lol maybe we should go back to yellow as our traditional colour
    Red is the traditional Grand Prix/ Formula 1 Race car color for Italy. Yellow represents the color for Modena, Italy where Enzo started his business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Red is the traditional Grand Prix/ Formula 1 Race car color for Italy. Yellow represents the color for Modena, Italy where Enzo started his business.
    I know, which is why I said yellow is our colour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    I know, which is why I said yellow is our colour.
    Did ever Ferrari raced in F1 in yellow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Did ever Ferrari raced in F1 in yellow?
    i dont' think Ferrari ever raced in yellow in F1....

    for me as a Ferrari fan, RED is the only colour i know and i associate FERRARI with....ever since i was a little kid and saw Red Ferrari cars on TV

    i know they come in different colour flavours nowadays, but for ME.....Ferrari means and is associated with colour RED, period!!!! even if let's say hypothatically that someday i would be rich enough to buy a Ferrari, IT WILL BE RED no questions asked....

    i know Ferrari has had to please some of it's sponsors (aka Santander banking) hence the WHITE accents on its F1 car, but i'm sure we can do with a little be less....i don't mind seeing a RED with soem black accents, but that white stuff is too hedious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Did ever Ferrari raced in F1 in yellow?
    Yellow is Ferrari's colour, not red. Not quite sure what you are struggling to understand?
    Forza Ferrari

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Yellow is Ferrari's colour, not red. Not quite sure what you are struggling to understand?
    Yes we all know that yellow is the color of the city of Modena, where Ferrari first started, Giallo Modena, but when it comes to racing red is ferrari color

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    Quote Originally Posted by zike View Post
    Yes we all know that yellow is the color of the city of Modena, where Ferrari first started, Giallo Modena, but when it comes to racing red is ferrari color
    Red is Italy's colour for racing cars
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Red is Italy's colour for racing cars
    so Ferrari is racing it's F1 single seater in Formula ONE, therefore the Ferrrari F1 single seater should be RED, no????

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    so Ferrari is racing it's F1 single seater in Formula ONE, therefore the Ferrrari F1 single seater should be RED, no????
    Can be any colour they like these days, but when they began red was the colour because they were Italian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Can be any colour they like these days, but when they began red was the colour because they were Italian.
    Greig, sadly, i know it can be "any" colour these days (due to sponsors....blah, blah, blah, blah, blah), but DEEP down US, Ferrari fans would LOVE to see our Scarlet Ferrari F1 single seater be none other then RED....at least that is my take on this as a Die Hard FERRARI fan for, well LOTS and LOtS of years

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    What to expect from Ferrari's 2017 Formula 1 car

    Ferrari is expected to overhaul several areas of its Formula 1 car for 2017 in a bid to bounce back from a winless campaign last year.

    While some of the changes to the car - including on the aerodynamic side - will be forced by the major alterations to the F1 regulations for this year, the revised technical team at Maranello has also targeted several areas under the skin of the car - codenamed 668 - that can be heavily changed for the new season.

    Ferrari's 062/2 power unit will feature an internal combustion engine aimed at making better use of the MGU-H, which should increase the efficiency of the hybrid systems and reduce the risk of turbocharger unreliability.

    In the combustion chamber, a significant switch to a new multi-jet ignition system is believed to be under consideration, as part of Ferrari's growing relationship with the Mahle technology company.

    Revisions to the gearbox are anticipated too, with Ferrari moving back to a more conventional solution aimed at improving traction after its 2016 concept of mounting the rear suspension between the differential and the gearbox proved troublesome at times.

    It is also expected to follow a similar front suspension layout to that used by Mercedes.

    The team is thought likely to increase its wheelbase by 200mm and set the engine slightly futher back in the car, although this is partly forced by regulation changes that require a 105kg fuel tank compared to 100kg last year.

    While there has also been talk of 'unusual' shapes for 2017 appearing in Ferrari's windtunnel, the team has remained tight-lipped about rumours that its car will feature some surprises.

    It is also understood that Ferrari could ditch the additional white part of its livery that returned for 2016, with some staff believing the design is associated with too many bad times in the Italian team's history.

    Two of its most recent winless seasons - 2016 and 1993 - both came with a livery featuring more white than usual on the cars.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report...rrari-2017-car
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    Analysis: Ferrari tipped for new livery, new engine tech in F1 2017



    Formula 1's focus has already shifted to the arrival of the all-new 2017 cars – which will be wider, more aggressive looking and faster than their predecessors. But, as Franco Nugnes reveals, even bigger changes could be coming at Ferrari.

    Is Ferrari ready to ditch its white livery band, for example? It is a desire of the technical staff at Maranello, and there are suggestions the team will abandon the white stripe that returned last year.

    The white had been historically associated with bad times and, after a season where the SF16-H took 11 podiums but no wins, Ferrari's management may hope that reverting to an all-red concept may at least mark the start of a new chapter.

    Ferrari president Sergio Marchionne and team principal Maurizio Arrivabene want to turn the page on a disappointing 2016 campaign.

    And although the two chief men at Maranello are not going to risk making firm predictions for 2017, they are both convinced in the job that the technical group under Mattia Binotto can do.

    Binotto is an excellent organiser, and is credited with giving a chance of redemption for a lot of the specialists in the racing department that were left in the shadows by the arrival of James Allison and other technical management.

    Allison's departure last July was not painless for the team, because some of those left behind were not convinced about the new structure that was put in place, where there would no longer be a pyramid reporting structure but a more horizontal one.

    Ferrari chose, however, not to sign a big-name replacement – although some of the reason for that was the lack of available candidates.

    Mercedes' Aldo Costa, for example, is bound to the German car manufacturer until January 1, 2018 – and even if he had decided to return to Italy he would still need to go through a year of gardening leave – meaning he would only really be on board for 2020.

    Binotto has got straight down to work through, and is pushing hard the 14 working groups inside Ferrari to try to get back to winning ways – and end a victory drought that stretches back to the 2015 Singapore Grand Prix.

    Ferrari has set a February 24 date for the presentation of its 2017 car, which will run at Fiorano for a filming day.

    That date – just a few days before Barcelona testing begins – has been set because the team wants to hold back on unleashing its engine (with only four power units available for 2017) and its aerodynamic developments until the last possible minute.

    In engine terms, the 062/2 marks a different direction for the team – with its head of ERS, Thierry Baritaud, set to be given an internal combustion engine that will make better use of the MGU-H – which should increase the efficiency of the hybrid systems and also limit the risks of turbocharger reliability.

    But perhaps the most radical innovation concerns the combustion chamber, with Ferrari considering the use of a new multi-jet ignition system that will move the team to the next level in its relationship with the Mahle technology company.

    Ferrari's gearbox is also set to be heavily revised, because the 2016 concept of mounting the rear suspension between the differential and the gearbox proved useful for helping deliver a very narrow rear suspension but was not very efficient in maximising traction at the rear axle.

    So Ferrari is set to revert to a more proven solution, and will pursue a front suspension route similar to Mercedes.

    The overall chassis dimensions are also set to change, although this has been partly forced on it because the fuel tank capacity will be increasing from 100kg to 105kg as part of the new regulations.

    It is expected that the wheelbase of 3494mm will grow by around 200mm – with the engine set slightly further back compared to last year's car.

    At Maranello the team is staying tight-lipped about what is being planned, but there are expected to be some surprises from the 668 (the codename of Ferrari's 2017 car) – amid talk that there are some 'unusual' shapes on the wind tunnel model.

    We will see just how radical these designs are next month.
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    Does anybody have a clue of what they mean by "Unusual "shapes in the wind tunnel??? Could it be th shapes of bodywork/wings??? Or unusual shapes of airflow/aerodynamics..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Yellow is Ferrari's colour, not red. Not quite sure what you are struggling to understand?
    There is no struggling for anything!? Just a simple question? Chill out!

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