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    Like I said in March, I'd rather have a fast car that wins races from time to time that breaks down now and then, then a slow car or a Honda .
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpeed View Post
    Like I said in March, I'd rather have a fast car that wins races from time to time that breaks down now and then, then a slow car or a Honda .
    yeah, but if it brakes down from time time time like it's been for the past 2 GP's.....well that is costing you points and losing the WDC which most likely we're gonna lose it this year due to reliabilty

    so all in all, a fast car is good to have, but ALSO has to be somewhat reliable....one without the other WON"T win you championships....just saying

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    First you got to learn to walk, then run so next year we'll get em!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpeed View Post
    First you got to learn to walk, then run so next year we'll get em!!!
    Hopefully next year will come in 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpeed View Post
    First you got to learn to walk, then run so next year we'll get em!!!
    Ferrari has been in F1 long enough to be running already!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    Ferrari has been in F1 long enough to be running already!!
    oh yeah....we should be galloping by now.....lol
    ...the new SF70H looks amazing. Let's hope it's gonna be as FAST as it looks.


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    Well, we can safely say that we interpreted the new aero rules almost perfectly. We only need to sort out the PU reliability which i guess is the least you can do, so looking pretty positive about our performance in this regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    Well, we can safely say that we interpreted the new aero rules almost perfectly. We only need to sort out the PU reliability which i guess is the least you can do, so looking pretty positive about our performance in this regulations.
    red bull is still SUPERIOR in the aero dept. this year.....surely they weren't as good as we were at the beginning of the season, but boy oh boy they surely are the strongest now with their package

    dont' even want to think what would have happened if they had a Merc or a Ferrari engine strapped in the back of their car

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    red bull is still SUPERIOR in the aero dept. this year.....surely they weren't as good as we were at the beginning of the season, but boy oh boy they surely are the strongest now with their package

    dont' even want to think what would have happened if they had a Merc or a Ferrari engine strapped in the back of their car
    Yeah you have a point there. It might be really RB who has the best chassis on the grid. Oh well, at least they don't have a Ferrari or a Merc engine at the back. Hope the Renault PU won't be much better next year as well. Renault will probably upgrade it, but Ferrari and Merc won't sit still as well so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    red bull is still SUPERIOR in the aero dept. this year.....surely they weren't as good as we were at the beginning of the season, but boy oh boy they surely are the strongest now with their package
    they copied us....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    they copied us....
    Amen!
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    RedBull - Adrian Newey has been developing the 2018 car probably mid-summer(2017) as he has full time with it this year; no more production car projects from Aston which took him away from the 2017 car....but developed it as time went on. We'll see what happens to the PU side. They are the smaller of 3 with regards to WB(wheelbase).

    Williams - Paddy Lowe(ex-Mercedes) is full on with the Williams 2018 car as well as still keeping the Mercedes AMG PU. Something tells me, with the right driver, this 2018 could be a contender with the likes of RedBull or Ferrari.....IMO.

    Ferrari - reliability reliability reliability. Hopefully this new girl, Maria Mendoza, in quality control can turns things around. I say, keep the WB as is along with aero package, bring in the EVO 4 engine online for the 25hp to 30hp increase....and 2018 looks like the year we kick asphalt; emotions contingent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    they copied us....
    i'm afraid Greig they ONLY copied the side pod barge board thingy that we have.....hardly any copying worth mentioning....their car has LOADS and LOADS of downforce.....in fact they have so much that they are shedding quite a bit to compensate for lack of engine power they have.....thank God neither ferrari nor mercedes gave them a REAL engine....because wiht the efficiency aero tehy have this year along with a powerful engine they would have WIPED teh floor with BOTH, us and the Mercs
    ...the new SF70H looks amazing. Let's hope it's gonna be as FAST as it looks.


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    Tech tricks in the world championship
    What's going on with the oil?

    13.10.2017 Michael Schmidt

    The F1 top teams do not only care about themselves, they also litter the competition. And in doing so, establish things which seem strange to them. Under suspicion are moving wings, trickery with the oil or commandos at the radio.

    The closer the World Cup decision, the harder the bandages. Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull distrust each other. No sooner will Red Bull go again to win, the opponents look exactly at the blue cars. And want to have seen that they bend the front wing end plates again significantly. And the arched wings above the side boxes. Since Silverstone had already given a warning through the FIA. Lewis Hamilton took the evil word "Flexi-wings" in his mouth at his Thursday press conference. Ohne den Adressaten zu nennen. Without mentioning the addressee.

    In Suzuka Ferrari was also targeted. Why was the transmission from Sebastian Vettel after the GP Malaysia flown to check to Maranello? Can not you check on the ground whether the transmission of force was affected by the collision with Lance Stroll in the round of the race? In the questions the suspicion resonates that Ferrari secretly exchanged the entrails of the transmission in order to escape punishment.

    All hot air, it is said from FIA circles. The seals were checked after the arrival in Suzuka at the transmission in the dismantled condition. . Ferrari was not allowed to install the power transmission before. The seals were all undamaged and in the right place.

    In addition, according to the association, all the top teams would send their power transfers between the races home to investigate them for damage. There, they have special test stands, on which they can test the functions of the control box. It must cost a fortune to fly the parts for a few days around the world.

    A much more serious accusation is that Ferrari is supposed to have used a liquid which is injected into the combustion chambers if necessary, in order to achieve more power in the short term. There have been complaints in Montreal and Monza. For all new engines introduced from Monza, 0.9 liters per 100 kilometers are valid. Previously, it was 1.2 liters.

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    The FIA keeps itself covered on the subject. It is a tightrope walk because there is no rule yet, but only a technical directive. One only hears that Mercedes and Ferrari are far from Renault and Honda for oil consumption. There must be a plan behind it. Otherwise, no one needs oil to a degree, according to Redhor's team boss Christian Horner could talk of "diesel engines".

    It is assumed that at least Ferrari runs with different types of oil, stores them in at least three tanks and, if necessary, mixes them in such a way that they are used as a performance-promoting additive in the combustion process. The rules do not prohibit the use of different oils.

    The transfer into the cylinders is theoretically based on extremely low-viscosity oils, which create it from below on the piston rings into the combustion chamber. This would only make sense for the fast qualifying rounds. Over a longer distance, the engine would be affected.

    The other trick is to use the gases generated during the oil / air separation as a power aid. They must be blown back into the intake manifold according to regulations. However, the consistency of the oil must correspond to that measured by the FIA before the race. Who intermeshes an oil with the other tank, has a problem with the technical acceptance afterwards.

    The suspicion against Ferrari has been reinforced since the first pictures of the open Ferrari rear. The engine problems in the starting position revealed, among other things, the view of an elongated container above the cylinder head. Many would like to know what's in there.

    What does the OVR button do at Ferrari?

    An oil mix, which is generated during the driving operation by selective mixing of liquids, should be drained before the end of the race, so that it is not discovered during the technical inspection. The warning lights went on when Vettel was asked to press the OVR button three times in Monza. At a time when his position in the race was safe, he needed no extra power.


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    We hear from the initiated circles that there was a last warning to Monza. And that no angels work for Mercedes-Benz. The engine oil is also used trickily there, just different. This is the end of next year. Then there are the same strict rules for oil as for petrol.

    Listening is a normal process in times of open radio traffic. Most teams record the entire radio traffic and bring it to paper. In the case of strange commands, a closer look is given to what happens in the cockpit of the car in question.

    The competition is puzzling, for example, what Ferrari's command "secure the cockpit" has. The driver is sometimes blown into the car after the race. It occurred in Sochi and in Sepang.

    The conspiracy theorists suspect secret reference points for the clutch, which must be removed in the roundabout. Perhaps the teams in their paranoia but also the grass grow, and the commands turn out to be quite banal.

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    Why it's always Ferrari. ????
    Mercs did lot of illegal things , RB too. But they did ban those rules after 3yrs.
    When it comes to Ferrari, it will be in season only gr8..!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Why it's always Ferrari. ????
    Mercs did lot of illegal things , RB too. But they did ban those rules after 3yrs.
    When it comes to Ferrari, it will be in season only gr8..!!
    because we are still not good enough on hiding them well. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by subfire91 View Post
    because we are still not good enough on hiding them well. :)
    True. I remember back in the RB days when they were using flexi wing. The wing would flex during race but would not flex during FIA investigation when they put weights on it. So, RB are the masters when it comes to hiding illegal aero devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    i'm afraid Greig they ONLY copied the side pod barge board thingy that we have.....hardly any copying worth mentioning....their car has LOADS and LOADS of downforce.....in fact they have so much that they are shedding quite a bit to compensate for lack of engine power they have.....thank God neither ferrari nor mercedes gave them a REAL engine....because wiht the efficiency aero tehy have this year along with a powerful engine they would have WIPED teh floor with BOTH, us and the Mercs
    Why you say they are better then us aero wise?? In all "aero" track we beat them quite comfortly.They beat us only when we had problems.Yes they evolve a lot through the year but rhis is because they where so much behind in the beginning. And now they are close but NOT better then us even in the chassis!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    Why you say they are better then us aero wise?? In all "aero" track we beat them quite comfortly.They beat us only when we had problems.Yes they evolve a lot through the year but rhis is because they where so much behind in the beginning. And now they are close but NOT better then us even in the chassis!!!
    trust me they ARE better then us aero wise......at aero dependant tracks they are WAY faster then us in the twisty bits of the track, gaining 3-4 tenths on us and the Mercs....is that their engine is lacking POWER compard to ours and the Mercs.....if tey had our engine or the Merc's in their car i'm sure thye woudl be faster if not THE fastest of ALL....

    i think 2018 will be a WAY better year for us.....Mercedes better watch out, i'm sure their're shaking in their boots already
    ...the new SF70H looks amazing. Let's hope it's gonna be as FAST as it looks.


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    Again,where did you see that they where 3-4 tenths faster then us????
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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    Again,where did you see that they where 3-4 tenths faster then us????
    Middle sector in Japan, faster then us and mercs but we're loosing but we're losing time on the straights due to power deficit
    ...the new SF70H looks amazing. Let's hope it's gonna be as FAST as it looks.


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    Red Bull were not the best time in any of the 3 sectors in Japan?
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    Faster then us ????!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    Faster then us ????!!!!!
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    Not faster but pretty close. They might be faster if their car is powered by a Ferrari or a Merc PU though. Let's hope Renault won't have much progress next year.

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    To me,all this talk about power is an excuse like McLaren!!!!
    Im pretty happy about our car and our chassis!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    To me,all this talk about power is an excuse like McLaren!!!!
    Im pretty happy about our car and our chassis!!!
    Well you should be, obviously we have the complete package. Having an inferior PU is part of the problems when you are a customer team, so teams like RB and McLaren should quit whining and start their own PU manufacturing program.

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    so Austin appears to be a Merc track right? can SF70H challenge for the win and do RBR have a shot? what do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    so Austin appears to be a Merc track right? can SF70H challenge for the win and do RBR have a shot? what do you guys think?
    It will be close, COTA is a cocktail of everything so it's a bit difficult to say who'll make the most out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    so Austin appears to be a Merc track right? can SF70H challenge for the win and do RBR have a shot? what do you guys think?
    It's impossible For Ferrari to win at a Merc track, they should skip the race and save big $$ ! This is a Ferrari site!! How can fans be sooo negative I'll never know. Puting the track aside there's always Verstappen ready to kill to win! We need to have faith in Ferrari even though there a relatively new F1 team. Seb also has won races before, so has Kimi. The win will be great !! Who knows, maybe Lewis will be distracted while qualifying knowing he is a major celebrity attraction in the USA, not only Great Britan!

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