Scuderia Ferrari SF70H

[ferrari1.8t]

Don't really know where to place this, but are there not bigger problems in F1 to worry about?

https://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/11/...veals-designs/

[Liscia]

Don't really know where to place this, but are there not bigger problems in F1 to worry about?

https://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/11/...veals-designs/

As they say in a lot of police procedural dramas "Move along, nothing to see here". How many cost-reduction millions will it cost to design and implement a "new" logo?

[wisepie]

Your last paragraph goes to show that motor-racing per se no longer exists, de-tuned engines to aid reliability, driving around tyre issues, next they'll all be in fuel-saving mode from the start....where will it end? I don't like the 3 engine rule either, and with the issues Ferrari have suffered whilst losing this year's championship, I'm surprised that they're being so confident of their engine's future reliability!

I forgot to add that I'm also not in favour of DRS as it's artificial, and the problems created by the aerodynamics of the wings don't allow for close racing either. If we want close, competitive racing, it all has to be simpler, from engines to aero and tyres, that would reduce costs considerably. It's a simplistic view, I know, but when I started watching F1 in my youth, we had bog-standard racing cars!

[stefa]

I forgot to add that I'm also not in favour of DRS as it's artificial, and the problems created by the aerodynamics of the wings don't allow for close racing either. If we want close, competitive racing, it all has to be simpler, from engines to aero and tyres, that would reduce costs considerably. It's a simplistic view, I know, but when I started watching F1 in my youth, we had bog-standard racing cars!

I completely agree with everything you said!!!

[wisepie]

I completely agree with everything you said!!!

Thanks stefa, just having a Sunday rant as there's no race, but we should celebrate AF Corse's win and WDC in the WEC, Forza Ferrari is always the most important thing and F1 would die without a Prancing Horse on the grid.

[Stormy]

Don't really know where to place this, but are there not bigger problems in F1 to worry about?

https://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/11/...veals-designs/

Whaat?! That logo is one of the best things F1 has at the moment. It's a timeless design that can pass all tests of time thrown at it.

[Christopher]

Whaat?! That logo is one of the best things F1 has at the moment. It's a timeless design that can pass all tests of time thrown at it.

The new designs are awful

[FerrariF60]

The new designs are awful

Totally agree

[Stormy]

The new designs are awful

Those designs doesn't look eligible for the 80's let alone modern times.

[IulianFerrari]

The current F1 logo is not that great, its confusing and stupid to put a white 1. That being said, those logos are ugly as . So they are a no go. It must be changed, but not with one of those suggestions

[Stormy]

The current F1 logo is not that great, its confusing and stupid to put a white 1. That being said, those logos are ugly as . So they are a no go. It must be changed, but not with one of those suggestions

How come it's confusing? It's a very neat design with a subliminal element to it. It's great.

[jgonzalesm6]

Like the old F1 logo.

Don't like any of the new.

Its Liberty, out with old logo, in with the new logo. (sigh)

[Kyss4k]

Well... I just quickly took one of the logos, that is half decent and went on for a few minutes of brainstorm about how to make it a little bit more acceptable for me and to stay true to the original as much, as possible. This is what I came up with. It's just for fun, done in few minutes, but I think it shows, that these are (hopefully) not ment seriously and the final one will be much better.

P.S. I know about the white space being the "1" in the old logo. I just didn't really feel like taking the time to incomporate this kind of clever design into these.

https://imgur.com/ShZRw3k

[Stormy]

Well... I just quickly took one of the logos, that is half decent and went on for a few minutes of brainstorm about how to make it a little bit more acceptable for me and to stay true to the original as much, as possible. This is what I came up with. It's just for fun, done in few minutes, but I think it shows, that these are (hopefully) not ment seriously and the final one will be much better.

P.S. I know about the white space being the "1" in the old logo. I just didn't really feel like taking the time to incomporate this kind of clever design into these.

https://imgur.com/ShZRw3k

Hey, not bad. Better than those potential solutions for sure. Imagine what you can do if you really put some effort into it. However, i don't think the logo needs to be changed. See you dabble with graphic design, where do you stand on this subject?

[Kyss4k]

Hey, not bad. Better than those potential solutions for sure. Imagine what you can do if you really put some effort into it. However, i don't think the logo needs to be changed. See you dabble with graphic design, where do you stand on this subject?

Exactly the point. If I had an offer on the table for this kind of money the designers get from FIA, really cool things could be done. Where I stand is that the logo change is not a critical issue. It's recognizable, clever and have some serious history which is now being thrown away. Sure, it looks a little bit dated to the current standards, so maybe update is not a bad idea, but I stress the word UPDATE. Make it sleeker, punchier, but keep the character.

[jgonzalesm6]

Shark fins won’t make 2018 F1 return https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/s...season-982404/ … via @motorsport

[jragona]

That’s bad news. I really liked them.

[jgonzalesm6]

Don't really know where to place this, but are there not bigger problems in F1 to worry about?

https://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/11/...veals-designs/

Whaat?! That logo is one of the best things F1 has at the moment. It's a timeless design that can pass all tests of time thrown at it.

The new designs are awful

Well... I just quickly took one of the logos, that is half decent and went on for a few minutes of brainstorm about how to make it a little bit more acceptable for me and to stay true to the original as much, as possible. This is what I came up with. It's just for fun, done in few minutes, but I think it shows, that these are (hopefully) not ment seriously and the final one will be much better.

P.S. I know about the white space being the "1" in the old logo. I just didn't really feel like taking the time to incomporate this kind of clever design into these.

https://imgur.com/ShZRw3k

Hey, not bad. Better than those potential solutions for sure. Imagine what you can do if you really put some effort into it. However, i don't think the logo needs to be changed. See you dabble with graphic design, where do you stand on this subject?

Exactly the point. If I had an offer on the table for this kind of money the designers get from FIA, really cool things could be done. Where I stand is that the logo change is not a critical issue. It's recognizable, clever and have some serious history which is now being thrown away. Sure, it looks a little bit dated to the current standards, so maybe update is not a bad idea, but I stress the word UPDATE. Make it sleeker, punchier, but keep the character.

I’ve just been sent this, F1 logo already been released

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPbvIzUXkAEZXlr.jpg

[nani_s23]

That’s bad news. I really liked them.

RB are the 1st one to oppose ban on shark fin n T wing for next year. FIA obliged it. Gr8.

[jgonzalesm6]

RB are the 1st one to oppose ban on shark fin n T wing for next year. FIA obliged it. Gr8.

I thought it was Mclaren that threw it in last second (Abu Dhabi GP)....being as how to throw a curve ball to the other teams that got their cars designed around it and Mclaren did'nt design their cars around the sail/shark-fin.

[nani_s23]

I thought it was Mclaren that threw it in last second (Abu Dhabi GP)....being as how to throw a curve ball to the other teams that got their cars designed around it and Mclaren did'nt design their cars around the sail/shark-fin.

RB were the first team then joined by McLaren.

[tifosi1993]

Hopefully Ferrari will make a step forward next year. Chassis wise our car was probably the best, but current formula 1 is engine dominant so we need a powerful & reliable PU next year.

FORZA!

[zike]

Hopefully Ferrari will make a step forward next year. Chassis wise our car was probably the best, but current formula 1 is engine dominant so we need a powerful & reliable PU next year.

FORZA!

There is rumour that GeS and GT department have joined forces on the 2018 PU project, Iotti (the new engine chief) comes directly from the GT department. I'm not sure how a man from GT can help us with PU

[Greig]

There is rumour that GeS and GT department have joined forces on the 2018 PU project, Iotti (the new engine chief) comes directly from the GT department. I'm not sure how a man from GT can help us with PU

Yawn

[zike]

Yawn

It's a legit question :D

Let's see your opinion on this matter for example, what do you think GT guys bring to the table?

[nani_s23]

There is rumour that GeS and GT department have joined forces on the 2018 PU project, Iotti (the new engine chief) comes directly from the GT department. I'm not sure how a man from GT can help us with PU

May he will give few HP's from his pocket. That may be enough to screw mercs.

[Greig]

It's a legit question :D

Let's see your opinion on this matter for example, what do you think GT guys bring to the table?

They don't have engines in GT I guess......did you think what would a rally co-driver bring to the table?

[Michal2_F1]

We threw it away in Asia, otherwise it was a dead heat. Vettel did good job, Raikkonen pretty mediocre apart of few grands prix. Still best season since 2012 and good development work for once. There are positives to look forward to in 2018.

[zike]

They don't have engines in GT I guess......did you think what would a rally co-driver bring to the table?

You can not apply that logic here

[Rob]

There is rumour that GeS and GT department have joined forces on the 2018 PU project, Iotti (the new engine chief) comes directly from the GT department. I'm not sure how a man from GT can help us with PU

sorry for not being on same table, but what do you mean in GT?