Scuderia Ferrari SF70H

**Aberracus** · 31st May 2017, 13:49

Canadá is a power hungry circuit...

I remember Seb used MK2 engine in barza, and something not important failed, and ferrari put another (3rd) Mk2 ice in sebs car. I suppose we are waiting for SPA for the MK3 ICE

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**nani_s23** · 31st May 2017, 13:49

Originally Posted by Ed Harley

Stroll is 2016 FIA Formula 3 European Champion so he can drive. His 1st season in F1 has been quite difficult but don't write him off yet.

that's why i did say MB will consider him according toto wolff

**Aberracus** · 31st May 2017, 13:51

That's sounds like championing lost causes.

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**nani_s23** · 31st May 2017, 13:52

Originally Posted by Aberracus

Canadá is a power hungry circuit...

I remember Seb used MK2 engine in barza, and something not important failed, and ferrari put another (3rd) Mk2 ice in sebs car. I suppose we are waiting for SPA for the MK3 ICE

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In monaco ferrari were using old components.

**Aberracus** · 31st May 2017, 13:53

Oh yes Monaco is not a power hungry circuit, I think we used Mk2 in Barcelona and we will again use it in Canada

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**nani_s23** · 31st May 2017, 14:03

Originally Posted by Aberracus

Oh yes Monaco is not a power hungry circuit, I think we used Mk2 in Barcelona and we will again use it in Canada

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ICE & MGU-K, TC are important components if i'm not wrong.
ICE-3, MGU-K-3, TC-3 this is ferrari current component usage.
i think ferrari used 4th component in barcelona don't know which component it is. FIA released the component usage chart.

**Aberracus** · 31st May 2017, 14:04

No, no 4th component we are in 3th one which is a handicap but it is what it is

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**nani_s23** · 31st May 2017, 14:35

Originally Posted by Aberracus

No, no 4th component we are in 3th one which is a handicap but it is what it is

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ok

**djmorin27** · 31st May 2017, 14:58

Think they used 3rd one for a race but used 2nd in Monaco.the only think that might bite us is the turbo

**gvera** · 31st May 2017, 15:47

Originally Posted by Aberracus

No, no 4th component we are in 3th one which is a handicap but it is what it is

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Sebastian DID use a fourth TC

N° Car Driver ICE TC MGU-H MGU-K ES CE
05 Ferrari Sebastian Vettel 2 4 3 2 2 2
07 Ferrari Kimi Räikkönen 2 3 2 2 2 2

(Sorry for the presentation I wasn't able to correct it)

You can see all the PU components usage at the FIA website.
This is the link for Monaco's info:

http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formul...information-22

Scroll down until you find TECHICAL REPORTS.

**nani_s23** · 31st May 2017, 16:07

Originally Posted by gvera

Sebastian DID use a fourth TC

N° Car Driver ICE TC MGU-H MGU-K ES CE
05 Ferrari Sebastian Vettel 2 4 3 2 2 2
07 Ferrari Kimi Räikkönen 2 3 2 2 2 2

(Sorry for the presentation I wasn't able to correct it)

You can see all the PU components usage at the FIA website.
This is the link for Monaco's info:

http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formul...information-22

Scroll down until you find TECHICAL REPORTS.

Yeah this is the one I'm talking about. They did use 4th TC component.
I think at some point we might take penalty. Also vet will not get the upgrade. If such is the case.

**gvera** · 31st May 2017, 16:12

Originally Posted by nani_s23

Yeah this is the one I'm talking about. They did use 4th TC component.
I think at some point we might take penalty. Also vet will not get the upgrade. If such is the case.

Yep, no more TC upgrades for VET unless he takes a penalty.

**jgonzalesm6** · 31st May 2017, 17:22

Was anyone aware of this on the aft portion of the car for Monaco 2017???

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**Zerocool** · 31st May 2017, 18:36

Originally Posted by nani_s23

I heard that seb was using 2nd engine which was fitted in barcelona, he was using same specification.
3rd unit, they will be using it in the coming races where PU is important (Spa, monza, Malaysia)
tracks like Monaco, Singapore, Canada, Austria etc they can work on it with older PU.

Originally Posted by Aberracus

Canadá is a power hungry circuit...

I remember Seb used MK2 engine in barza, and something not important failed, and ferrari put another (3rd) Mk2 ice in sebs car. I suppose we are waiting for SPA for the MK3 ICE

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Originally Posted by nani_s23

ICE & MGU-K, TC are important components if i'm not wrong.
ICE-3, MGU-K-3, TC-3 this is ferrari current component usage.
i think ferrari used 4th component in barcelona don't know which component it is. FIA released the component usage chart.

Originally Posted by gvera

Sebastian DID use a fourth TC

N° Car Driver ICE TC MGU-H MGU-K ES CE
05 Ferrari Sebastian Vettel 2 4 3 2 2 2
07 Ferrari Kimi Räikkönen 2 3 2 2 2 2

(Sorry for the presentation I wasn't able to correct it)

You can see all the PU components usage at the FIA website.
This is the link for Monaco's info:

http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formul...information-22

Scroll down until you find TECHICAL REPORTS.

Here you go guys

Ferrari: Vettel in qualifying, was remounted the engine # 1!

In the smoke screen that accompanies the information coming out of the Stable, yesterday had to wait for the statement from the FIA to know that on SF70H Vettel was remounted the first motor and not the # 3. While the Mercedes ...

Evening Surprise in Montmelo. When the FIA has released information regarding the news on the front power unit in the qualifying session of the Spanish Grand Prix it has emerged that Ferrari had decided to use on the car of Sebastian Vettel the thermal engine number 1.

We recall that the German driver was forced to stop in the course of FP3 session due to a problem at the 6-cylinder number 2 just mounted on its SF70H. The Ferrari before qualifying has not released official statements, but it was leaked the news that the technicians of the Horse were racing against time to mount the heat engine number 3.

Then in the evening the surprise, when it emerged from the FIA document that Ferrari decided to use the engine number 1, combined with the turbo number 4, since there is no time to extract the number 3 from the power unit disassembled after the morning problems. Ditto for the MGU-H, came as the third of the four specimens available for the season.

A similar situation occurred on the eve of the FP3 session in the house Mercedes when creating problems had been the power unit No. 2 of Valtteri Bottas. In this case, the Mercedes has been informed that it would be replaced with the number 1, not leaving space assumptions.

Not so at Ferrari, effectively creating misunderstandings that would have been easily avoided. The second position of Vettel in qualifying was rated as a performance obtained with a fresh engine, when in fact Seb has torn an important result even with an engine with more than about three thousand kilometers assets.

Even the management of the power unit of the Scuderia is sounded alarm in evaluating erroneously that the fifth race of the season was already in the track, the third of the four thermal units available for the entire championship. Two misinformation, which drew a different context from what actually went on stage in the afternoon in Barcelona. But for whose benefit?

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/fe...-1-905653/?s=1

**nani_s23** · 31st May 2017, 18:39

Originally Posted by Zerocool

Here you go guys

Ferrari: Vettel in qualifying, was remounted the engine # 1!

In the smoke screen that accompanies the information coming out of the Stable, yesterday had to wait for the statement from the FIA to know that on SF70H Vettel was remounted the first motor and not the # 3. While the Mercedes ...

Evening Surprise in Montmelo. When the FIA has released information regarding the news on the front power unit in the qualifying session of the Spanish Grand Prix it has emerged that Ferrari had decided to use on the car of Sebastian Vettel the thermal engine number 1.

We recall that the German driver was forced to stop in the course of FP3 session due to a problem at the 6-cylinder number 2 just mounted on its SF70H. The Ferrari before qualifying has not released official statements, but it was leaked the news that the technicians of the Horse were racing against time to mount the heat engine number 3.

Then in the evening the surprise, when it emerged from the FIA document that Ferrari decided to use the engine number 1, combined with the turbo number 4, since there is no time to extract the number 3 from the power unit disassembled after the morning problems. Ditto for the MGU-H, came as the third of the four specimens available for the season.

A similar situation occurred on the eve of the FP3 session in the house Mercedes when creating problems had been the power unit No. 2 of Valtteri Bottas. In this case, the Mercedes has been informed that it would be replaced with the number 1, not leaving space assumptions.

Not so at Ferrari, effectively creating misunderstandings that would have been easily avoided. The second position of Vettel in qualifying was rated as a performance obtained with a fresh engine, when in fact Seb has torn an important result even with an engine with more than about three thousand kilometers assets.

Even the management of the power unit of the Scuderia is sounded alarm in evaluating erroneously that the fifth race of the season was already in the track, the third of the four thermal units available for the entire championship. Two misinformation, which drew a different context from what actually went on stage in the afternoon in Barcelona. But for whose benefit?

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/fe...-1-905653/?s=1

It is reference to Barcelona right.???

**Zerocool** · 31st May 2017, 18:40

Originally Posted by Aberracus

Zero cool are you sure Seb reverted to 1st ice in Monaco, I remember reading they installed a 3 one in his SF70h the Mk2 version

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Originally Posted by nani_s23

I heard that seb was using 2nd engine which was fitted in barcelona, he was using same specification.
3rd unit, they will be using it in the coming races where PU is important (Spa, monza, Malaysia)
tracks like Monaco, Singapore, Canada, Austria etc they can work on it with older PU.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/fe...-1-905653/?s=1

**Zerocool** · 31st May 2017, 18:41

Originally Posted by nani_s23

It is reference to Barcelona right.???

Yes

**Zerocool** · 31st May 2017, 18:48

In reference to former discussions about the power unit:
Just think of this guys/girls though we were using 4 race old power unit compared to the upgraded and new pu of Hamilton the gap was only .050sec's in q3. I believe this showcases our might..!

**Aberracus** · 31st May 2017, 20:15

I don't understand too much Italian, my grandpa tongue, but that article says we used in Barcelona the first unit again ? So it was used again in Monte Carlo ?

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**Aberracus** · 31st May 2017, 20:24

Look this guys

http://formula1insider78.blogspot.pe...ge_62.html?m=1

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**gvera** · 31st May 2017, 20:30

Originally Posted by Aberracus

Look this guys

http://formula1insider78.blogspot.pe...ge_62.html?m=1

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That's old and unofficial, why would you want to refer to a blog when FIA publishes all the official PU components usage in it's web?

This is how Monaco started regarding PU usage (all are PDF download links):

http://www.fia.com/file/57458/download?token=JUCZYO-A

And this changes were done during the Monaco GP (None involves Ferrari)

http://www.fia.com/file/57480/download?token=qIes_5C1
http://www.fia.com/file/57488/download?token=ehirNBaL
http://www.fia.com/file/57607/download?token=SykkHIM6

**jgonzalesm6** · 31st May 2017, 20:32

Originally Posted by Aberracus

Look this guys

http://formula1insider78.blogspot.pe...ge_62.html?m=1

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I don't believe it's current or up-to-date. I have been searching for a current up-to-date chart as like one dated yesterday. You would think some-one was on top of this and had a

chart on the ready on the F1 website.....

**gvera** · 31st May 2017, 20:41

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

I don't believe it's current or up-to-date. I have been searching for a current up-to-date chart as like one dated yesterday. You would think some-one was on top of this and had a

chart on the ready on the F1 website.....

FIA publishes PU status at the begining of each GP and then the changes done during the GP (see my updated previous post).

**Aberracus** · 31st May 2017, 20:41

link of last one please

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**gvera** · 31st May 2017, 20:44

Originally Posted by Aberracus

link of last one please

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Regarding Ferrari status, this one is valid (PDF):

http://www.fia.com/file/57458/download?token=JUCZYO-A

This changes were done during the Monaco GP (None involves Ferrari)

http://www.fia.com/file/57480/download?token=qIes_5C1
http://www.fia.com/file/57488/download?token=ehirNBaL
http://www.fia.com/file/57607/download?token=SykkHIM6

**jgonzalesm6** · 31st May 2017, 20:46

Originally Posted by Aberracus

link of last one please

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got it....thnks

**Aberracus** · 31st May 2017, 21:31

Originally Posted by gvera

Regarding Ferrari status, this one is valid (PDF):

http://www.fia.com/file/57458/download?token=JUCZYO-A

This changes were done during the Monaco GP (None involves Ferrari)

http://www.fia.com/file/57480/download?token=qIes_5C1
http://www.fia.com/file/57488/download?token=ehirNBaL
http://www.fia.com/file/57607/download?token=SykkHIM6

Thanks man, great !

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**Aberracus** · 31st May 2017, 21:38

Yes yes yes yes !
That means we haven't used or new ICE because we couldn't use it in Spain (barza) and Hamilton used his new PU.... mmm that sounds good, lets hope all the problems are gone and we can use our new PU in Canada and be faster than MB, kimi couldn't use it because he was hit out of the race in the first corner. Who knows if we used the new elements for Monaco ? Probably we didn't need to, but the 1st engines (ICE) are very used now.

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