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    We'll be on one set of tyres next

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosso Corsa View Post
    We'll be on one set of tyres next
    Wasn't that the case in 2005? Hope that doesn't happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jragona View Post
    Wasn't that the case in 2005? Hope that doesn't happen...
    Unfortunately it was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jragona View Post
    Wasn't that the case in 2005? Hope that doesn't happen...
    Yeah that ruined F1 in America and it's only now just recovering thanks to cota

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Its not like the FIA "pops" these PU regs next day is it? The FIA informs the manufacturers and teams well in advance? It's kinda like a bet,

    are you willing to put your money where your mouth is? If not, then get out and regroup you resources and come back to fight another day. Otherwise, take the bet (knowing

    in advance the rules at play) and then deal with it. There is always someone at the table that is better than you and wins in the end.

    This era(2014 - 2020) of Formula 1 with the V-6 T Hybrid (MGU-H and K) is not to my liking but I'm not the one taking the bet and putting up the money. Maybe in 2020 into

    2021 they open free testing along with the new PU ( which for the most part looks to be a good formula).


    I think in this case it was a matter of ... accept these PU regs or we'll quit F1. I believe both Merc and Renault were pushing for small turbo engines. I think it was more Merc pushing for the complicated hybrid system. What were ferrari supposed to do, race themselves? At least they put their foot down and got us V6's instead of 4 cyls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Bob View Post
    I think in this case it was a matter of ... accept these PU regs or we'll quit F1. I believe both Merc and Renault were pushing for small turbo engines. I think it was more Merc pushing for the complicated hybrid system. What were ferrari supposed to do, race themselves? At least they put their foot down and got us V6's instead of 4 cyls.
    So if we take this into consideration, will Ferrari have their say at 2021 reg changes??? I highly doubt it as new manufacturers will be into F1. So who has the majority vote FIA will go with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    So if we take this into consideration, will Ferrari have their say at 2021 reg changes??? I highly doubt it as new manufacturers will be into F1. So who has the majority vote FIA will go with that.
    Ya exactly the point. If your vote is outnumbered then you have no choice but to accept what is agreed upon. Hopefully the majority decide on a return to small V8's with Kers rather than this hybrid monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    So if your engine fails in the race you dnf and lose points and then have to take a grid penalty the next race so you take double penalty they will be some races where half the field takes penaltys what joke this sport is becoming
    We are going to need degrees in mathematics to figure out the grid. When every one has 5/10/15/20/25/30 grid spot penalties, all at different times in the weekend, we are screwed trying to figure out who starts where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    We are going to need degrees in mathematics to figure out the grid. When every one has 5/10/15/20/25/30 grid spot penalties, all at different times in the weekend, we are screwed trying to figure out who starts where.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Bob View Post
    Ya exactly the point. If your vote is outnumbered then you have no choice but to accept what is agreed upon. Hopefully the majority decide on a return to small V8's with Kers rather than this hybrid monster.
    Yes return to v8's is good one with kers tech.
    But currently tech is hybrid. So I think they will not change these engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Yes return to v8's is good one with kers tech.
    But currently tech is hybrid. So I think they will not change these engines.
    Make another thread, this has nothing to do with sf70h

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    Any news regarding upgrades for Hungaroring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Any news regarding upgrades for Hungaroring?
    Yes stefa

    2 seconds on the engine side
    1 on the chassis side
    1 on the aero side

    for a total of 4


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    Damn i just woke up, bad dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    Yes stefa

    2 seconds on the engine side
    1 on the chassis side
    1 on the aero side

    for a total of 4


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    Damn i just woke up, bad dream
    If such is the case, then FIA would hand over the WCC n WDC crown without competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    Yes stefa

    2 seconds on the engine side
    1 on the chassis side
    1 on the aero side

    for a total of 4


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    Damn i just woke up, bad dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Any news regarding upgrades for Hungaroring?
    We need something to answer to Mercedes, and to answer it hard with the fist straight into their face! Booom! 1-2 next Sunday!!!!
    |I am going there. I need, and Ferrari needs to win!!!

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    I'm optimistic for Hungaroring considering it's a similar setup like Monaco. However, obviously Merc has fixed all of their issues and their car is seemingly flawless now, so it's going to be far from easy and we desperately need a win there.

    As for a PU upgrade, i'm hoping for a massive one in Monza.
    Last edited by Stormy; 23rd July 2017 at 15:35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    We need something to answer to Mercedes, and to answer it hard with the fist straight into their face! Booom! 1-2 next Sunday!!!!
    |I am going there. I need, and Ferrari needs to win!!!
    We all need what you need, stefa, have a great weekend and we'll be right with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    We need something to answer to Mercedes, and to answer it hard with the fist straight into their face! Booom! 1-2 next Sunday!!!!
    |I am going there. I need, and Ferrari needs to win!!!
    Exactly...!!!!
    FERRARI FOREVER...!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    As for a PU upgrade, i'm hoping for a massive one in Monza.
    I'm hoping for such a huge update which would last ever after i.e. untill the end of the world
    FERRARI FOREVER...!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    I'm optimistic for Hungaroring considering it's a similar setup like Monaco. However, obviously Merc has fixed all of their issues and their car is seemingly flawless now, so it's going to be far from easy and we desperately need a win there.

    As for a PU upgrade, i'm hoping for a massive one in Monza.
    There's nothing planned of upgrade anytime sooner.
    Ferrari introduced engine upgrade in Silverstone. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    There's nothing planned of upgrade anytime sooner.
    Ferrari introduced engine upgrade in Silverstone. That's it.
    yup, nothing before Monza probably

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Bob View Post
    I don't think they initiate team orders during qualifying.
    If at the very end of quali, it's eithr Seb or Kimi, I think Kimi has to sneeze!

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    Hey guys, this is not really part of this thread, I just wanted to say, after reading about Charles LeClerk, I was thinking about Jules Bianchi.
    I really miss him, he was such a good guy and I hope LeClerk will carry on the Jules Bianchi spirit for us in Ferrari.
    I dont know why, but I just cannot forget him. Just wanted to say it here.

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    This year has been no exception, with one of the recent areas of intrigue surrounding Ferrari's slot in the floor – which had been spotted flapping earlier this year.

    It was suggested that the design was intended to help feed air into the diffuser, thereby increasing downforce without the downside of drag.


    For the Azerbaijan Grand Prix, Ferrari was forced to make modifications to strengthen this area of the car – with a new metal attachment preventing it flexing.

    One of the consequences of this move was seen at Silverstone, a circuit with high-speed corners, where Ferrari had to run with a monkey seat and a higher angle of attack on its wings to recover downforce that may have lost from its diffuser. This resulted in it struggling to match the straightline speeds of the Mercedes.


    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/r...ls-934070/?s=1
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    It was suggested that the design was intended to help feed air into the diffuser, thereby increasing downforce without the downside of drag.


    For the Azerbaijan Grand Prix, Ferrari was forced to make modifications to strengthen this area of the car – with a new metal attachment preventing it flexing.

    One of the consequences of this move was seen at Silverstone, a circuit with high-speed corners, where Ferrari had to run with a monkey seat and a higher angle of attack on its wings to recover downforce that may have lost from its diffuser. This resulted in it struggling to match the straightline speeds of the Mercedes.
    That would explain Ferrari's tyre situation....hence making the race a 3 stop while almost everyone else made it a two stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    That would explain Ferrari's tyre situation....hence making the race a 3 stop while almost everyone else made it a two stop.
    http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/324...es-and-Ferrari

    Above article is really interesting, I think we'll work around it. Does sound like it was especially compounded at Silverstone but we could bounce back at the next race once we find methods to mitigate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss-89 View Post
    http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/324...es-and-Ferrari

    Above article is really interesting, I think we'll work around it. Does sound like it was especially compounded at Silverstone but we could bounce back at the next race once we find methods to mitigate it.
    I already knew about Mercedes hydraulic actuators suspension system which I think is a major factor but he mentions it. One thing the article fails to mention as a key

    factor(he mentions 3) and will play in the season long term............reliability!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I already knew about Mercedes hydraulic actuators suspension system which I think is a major factor but he mentions it. One thing the article fails to mention as a key

    factor(he mentions 3) and will play in the season long term............reliability!!!
    Is the suspension system used by mercs banned for next year???

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