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    yawn.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Did Newey not make their current car?
    He delegated most of the work as he(Adrian) was focused on the Aston Martin/RedBull hypercar(Valkyrie) project.

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    http://en.f1i.com/news/267559-vettel...s-insider.html
    Vettel at Mercedes: signed and sealed says insider!

    if the above is true then daniel ric will be seen at ferrari for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    http://en.f1i.com/news/267559-vettel...s-insider.html
    Vettel at Mercedes: signed and sealed says insider!

    if the above is true then daniel ric will be seen at ferrari for sure.

    that just might be.....

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    So nothing is signed and sealed if you read the rumour, did Leo Turrini not also say our car was rubbish and we needed a B spec in Spain? Seb is looking for a new contract so makes sense he is going to be speaking to the top teams as it gives him more bargaining power.
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    THE PROBLEMS OF RED BULL
    Hope for the miracle


    The GP Spain is for Red Bull the hour of truth. In Barcelona it will be shown whether the RB13 will be able to close the gap to Mercedes and Ferrari. The first version lacked massive downforce in the rear.
    Daniel Ricciardo speaks of "hope". He does not want to put the word "expectation" in his mouth. 1.5 seconds behind Mercedes And Ferrari are a lot of wood. In the history of Formula 1, there are very few examples in which a gap could be closed by a single upgrade. "I am already satisfied if we take it to Mercedes and Ferrari for half a second. Then at least we can fight and annoy them ", prays Ricciardo.
    The distance to the tip is too great to be ascribed to one single problem. "We have to improve the chassis and the engine," Max Verstappenhier says. Ricciardo believes that the 50% deficit is distributed between the car and the engine. The team with the chassis should be fixed in Barcelona, ​​hopes team consultant Helmut Marko.

    The Grazer is no longer so sure. Wind tunnel data and CFD simulation promise a great advance, but can one also trust them? They had Red Bull already before the winter tests in the belief, to have a Siegerauto. "I knew the numbers before the season. From the data we have achieved our goals with the upgrade. I want to see this at the stopwatch in Barcelona, ​​"says Marko.

    Tricks with side effects
    The main problem of the Red RB13 is that is missing in the rear downforce. This is why the hind rims either do not warm up or are very slow from the inside. The car starts to slip and the surface becomes too hot. Red Bull must use all sorts of tricks to keep the hind legs in a good mood. But then they have different side effects.
    In Sochi the cars of Ricciardo and staves with larger rear wings were on the road than Mercedes and Ferrari. With a simultaneous power deficit, this immediately hit the top speed. Stops were missing at the 3 measuring points between 10.9 and 20.6 km / h on Ferrari And between 10.5 and 18.8 km / h on Mercedes

    In the emergency Red Bull is now reaching the limit, which already two failures to this account. The heat has been tried as little as possible to allow the tire to pass. As a result, the brake calipers got too hot and caught fire.

    Aerodynamic windows too small
    The pilots are finding it hard to find the golden mean of the vote. Red Bull has to drive with little spring travel to keep the car in its narrow aerodynamic window. This also does not help tire temperatures. Because Renault Since the damage of the winter tests again with the 2016 MGU-K, Red Bull has no more room for the weight distribution more. The car is exactly at the limit.
    Even if Milton Keynes does not officially admit it, the more rigorous interpretation of the FIA ​​on the chassis has thrown the whole vehicle concept together. More than with Mercedes. The system was able to adjust the rolling behavior, spring travel and ground clearance, so that Red Bull could drive with an extreme angle of attack without losing top speed. On the straight just went the rear on Block ..
    Now again the golden compromise is in demand. Aerodynamic stability and engine performance are missing. If you sacrifice downforce, the tires fall out of their working window. Interestingly, the Red Bull only works on a tire type. Whenever Supersoft tires are on the car, the distance to the tip will shrink.
    The upgrade aims to generate more downforce in all living conditions. If the numbers on the track are confirmed, this would be only a first step. Renault has already postponed the upgrade, which provides more power and cures the children's diseases of the new engine. From Barcelona was first Montreal and now an unspecified date until the summer break. That is why Ricciardo also says, "Only in the summer will we know if we have a car for the podium."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    So nothing is signed and sealed if you read the rumour, did Leo Turrini not also say our car was rubbish and we needed a B spec in Spain? Seb is looking for a new contract so makes sense he is going to be speaking to the top teams as it gives him more bargaining power.
    Also there is another side of this,
    1. Seb didn't expect that Ferrari would be too strong this year & he can be in title contention.
    2. There is also another possibility When mercs seat was open during that time mercs contacted seb. Where seb might have thought if ferrari coudln't produce a winning car he can jump to mercs in 2018 (may be he committed to mercs for 2018 not officially just on words) as he's already committed to ferrari for 2017.
    3. For the above 2nd case, may be seb was thinking to negotiate with ferrari for high perks & 2nd ferrari seat for 2018 by saying he has another option at Mercs if not ferrari. (bear in mind high chances of kimi too would be replaced for next year, as Vet doesn't want any strong driver to beat him)

    i strongly believe on 2nd & 3rd cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    that just might be.....
    what if Seb wins the WDC this year? will that change everything?
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    Seb isn't going any Ware he wants to turn around Ferrari like Michael did and he's doing just that.plus Lewis isn't going to go for this having 2 number ones does not work never will in f1.looks like contract negotiations are starting up.pay attention to body language over the next month that can give u a good indication on What's going on .plus that Leo turin is crap and vet 2 weeks ago ripped them a new ass after attacking Ferrari on false info

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    Wow changing by the minute,bunch of crap. this morning it said vet going to merc signed and sealed now it says may go to merc.keep a eye on this and see how many different wordings are used

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmatiasii View Post
    what if Seb wins the WDC this year? will that change everything?
    These guys do these deals a year in advance since the rest of the year is focused on racing; Yes, it will change IF Seb wins. He is just keeping his options open....smart if you ask me as he wants to win in a winning car since his departure from RB and he has the talent and credibility to market himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    These guys do these deals a year in advance since the rest of the year is focused on racing; Yes, it will change IF Seb wins. He is just keeping his options open....smart if you ask me as he wants to win in a winning car since his departure from RB and he has the talent and credibility to market himself.
    also
    1) he had frustrating last year
    2) Mercs the only team having championship car till 2016.
    3) Ferrari romours surrounding Daniel had agreement with Ferrari

    Lot of factors playing around. Any driver would want to be in championship winning car. So before 2017 seb may have thought in that way. All of sudden ferrari being competitive, title contention playing around his mind now. So negotiation will be on after summer break.

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    Ferrari knew that would be competitive this year and because of that do not fear any driver leaving the team and has made talks with some of them. Mercedes will be less competitive next year as the engines will be more open to changes. If Vetel is talking with Mercedes that is a wrong move and he knows that. The only reason he is doing that is that he wants to make Ferrari make the deal with him as soon as it possible.

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    This season is starting to remind me of the 2000 season.... rumors of MS leaving to McLaren, closely fought battle between Ferrari and McLaren going down to the wire....

    Good times after that ;)
    Rest in Peace Leza, you were a true warrior...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Good times after that ;)
    Now that is music to my ears.
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    Feeling the Heat (Video 8min 49sec)

    With the aid of a Giorgio Piola drawing and our exclusive 3D animations, Craig Scarborough details the F1 Mercedes and Ferrari updates seen in the recent Russian GP.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lag4JMwmUw

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    http://en.f1i.com/news/267559-vettel...s-insider.html
    Vettel at Mercedes: signed and sealed says insider!
    sounds legit

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    For those getting overexcited about Red Bull's updates this weekend, the team assures me there is no 'all new' car nor plans for RB14 rename
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    As for Seb going to Merc,Im pretty sure that he goes nowhere .Turrini just remembered that someone told him in preseason test (3 months ago) that Lauda said that they have and agreement with Seb.And in the end he says that now that Ferrari surprisingly are so strong ,things might change.
    To me all this is just pure journalism.
    I also remember an interview of Toto back then and he had said that Seb is so loyal and that there is nothing between them!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    So nothing is signed and sealed if you read the rumour, did Leo Turrini not also say our car was rubbish and we needed a B spec in Spain? Seb is looking for a new contract so makes sense he is going to be speaking to the top teams as it gives him more bargaining power.
    This is what Turrini originally posted on friday may 5th.:

    In occasione dei test precampionato di Barcellona, amici di Niki Lauda riservatamente confidavano che il quattro volte iridato aveva un pre accordo con la casa di Stoccarda per la prossima stagione.

    So, at Barcelona's pre-season test, some Niki Lauda's friends said that Vettel had an prearrangement with Mercedes, this is what started all those 'news', funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    As for Seb going to Merc,Im pretty sure that he goes nowhere .Turrini just remembered that someone told him in preseason test (3 months ago) that Lauda said that they have and agreement with Seb.And in the end he says that now that Ferrari surprisingly are so strong ,things might change.
    To me all this is just pure journalism.
    I also remember an interview of Toto back then and he had said that Seb is so loyal and that there is nothing between them!!!
    Mid March:

    "I personally have a good relationship with him, and he would fit into the team," Wolff said. "However, Sebastian is someone who is absolutely loyal to his current employer. When Nico retired, (Vettel) was not one of the (interested) applicants for the seat. He only said, 'Oh, this is surprising.' He is focusing on Ferrari with everything he has. What the future brings, we will see, but it would be negligent to not have Sebastian on the list."


    Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/formula-...#ixzz4gb7PYqBi
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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    Mid March:

    "I personally have a good relationship with him, and he would fit into the team," Wolff said. "However, Sebastian is someone who is absolutely loyal to his current employer. When Nico retired, (Vettel) was not one of the (interested) applicants for the seat. He only said, 'Oh, this is surprising.' He is focusing on Ferrari with everything he has. What the future brings, we will see, but it would be negligent to not have Sebastian on the list."


    Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/formula-...#ixzz4gb7PYqBi

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    Guys , thinking about Barcelona and looking at the below video. It shouldn't be really even be close between us and the mercs. I mean our cars just eats the mercs in the twisty bits ... what do you guys think ??
    https://youtu.be/R6mnCbFlg8o

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    in other interview Mr. Puppet Horner was saying his team will catch Mercs & Ferrari .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    Guys , thinking about Barcelona and looking at the below video. It shouldn't be really even be close between us and the mercs. I mean our cars just eats the mercs in the twisty bits ... what do you guys think ??
    [video]https://youtu.be/R6mnCbFlg8o[/url]
    Barcelona track is tough on its tyres. Also Pirelli suggested hard tyres for this race, its very interesting.
    Mercs Suffer on Hard tyres + last sector pretty much sum's it up with the front end tyre degradation.
    So definetly ferrari have a better chance in race, untill n unless if mercs pulls up some miracle by solving its tyre issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    Guys , thinking about Barcelona and looking at the below video. It shouldn't be really even be close between us and the mercs. I mean our cars just eats the mercs in the twisty bits ... what do you guys think ??
    [video]https://youtu.be/R6mnCbFlg8o[/url]
    that was vettels fastest lap...... and lewis had a slow lap... bottas was within a tenth of vettel... they should have compared that..instead of giving misleading information

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    Quote Originally Posted by f412 View Post
    that was vettels fastest lap...... and lewis had a slow lap... bottas was within a tenth of vettel... they should have compared that..instead of giving misleading information
    Vet was Sanbagging in final sector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Vet was Sanbagging in final sector.
    Seriously..? Sandbagging in the q3

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    Ferrari used a 'filming day 'recently at Mugello to test their starts

    http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...actice_starts/

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    Ferrari not expected to bring a major update for the 2017 Spanish Grand Prix
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