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    Quote Originally Posted by Seb5 View Post
    Merc introduced their phase 2 PU for this race (AMuS) so they need to test everything for reliability and probably turn everything a little bit more than usual.
    yep.....it is UN-usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    it's PU upgrade
    Damn, they reinforcing their strong point even more

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    we don't have double inject system update yet...
    not yet, could be introduced with the next engine upgrade. could be a game changer.
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    Mercedes worked on every part of a car and even reduced weight by 5kg and if Ferrari can be close to them it should be a good season because I think that they can't improve that "boat" by a lot from this grand prix.
    On the other hand Ferrari has a lot of potential for improving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwk360 View Post
    RB boss dude says Mercs looking very fast but they might be using a little more than the rest but are very happy that they are close up to ferrari and apply pressure now
    Mr horner knows ferrari running different programme & turned down their engines. But still he's claiming we are close...this is just

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    According to Motorsport, Seb will have an upgraded engine this weekend. The new ICE will be mounted on the car tomorrow.Apparently Kimi won't have the new engine this weekend, as he already changed the 2nd unit in Bahrain - reliability issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by fmatiasii View Post
    not yet, could be introduced with the next engine upgrade. could be a game changer.
    might be ...lets see. Nothing major upgrade from ferrari yet. So hope something is in pipeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fronaldo View Post
    can't we work on First Unit based on reliability reasons..???

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    New MGU-K for both of our drivers (2nd Unit)

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    İs this a new engine with new double injection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by farid-baku View Post
    İs this a new engine with new double injection?
    no

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    thanks

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    i don't know what to make of this session really probably nothing

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    COMPARISON TESTING
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    Kimi and Seb 3rd and 4th fastest in first free practice

    Montmel˛, 12 May –The first session for the fifth round of the season, the Spanish Grand Prix, has just come to an end. Kimi Raikkonen was third quickest with a time of 1:22.456, while his team-mate Sebastian Vettel’s best lap of 1:22.600 was good enough for fourth on the time sheet. For this first session, Scuderia Ferrari opted to start on the Hard tyre, before switching to the Medium. Over the 90 minutes of track time, work on the SF70H centred on evaluating various new solutions introduced this weekend. At one point, Seb’s car suffered a small problem on the left rear wheel, which was quickly fixed.
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    I think it's gonna be a Mercedes weekend all along. They have a heck ton of upgrades and they also love the harder tyres more than we do.


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    Early sunset to me. We will know more race day!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SinanOzerS View Post
    I think it's gonna be a Mercedes weekend all along. They have a heck ton of upgrades and they also love the harder tyres more than we do.
    too early to conclude, i haven't seen how they handle tire degradation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinanOzerS View Post
    I think it's gonna be a Mercedes weekend all along. They have a heck ton of upgrades and they also love the harder tyres more than we do.
    you are saying the opposite. They tend to struggle on hard tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinanOzerS View Post
    I think it's gonna be a Mercedes weekend all along. They have a heck ton of upgrades and they also love the harder tyres more than we do.

    Can i make a deal with you ???

    Here's my deal. When ferrari do much better in this next practice and in qualy as well as on race day........You're not allowed to post for the rest of the weekend, Deal ???
    Drive it like you stole it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super M View Post
    Can i make a deal with you ???

    Here's my deal. When ferrari do much better in this next practice and in qualy as well as on race day........You're not allowed to post for the rest of the weekend, Deal ???

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    PIRELLI DEFINES
    Why are the tire pressures so high?

    Pirelli has increased the air pressure of the rear tires by 2 PSI compared to the test runs in Barcelona. Although there were no problems with the test drives. We asked why the change had been made.

    Pirelli surprised the teams before GP Spain. After the Italian tire supplier in the first four races Moderate air pressure, he went in Barcelona the opposite way. At the front, the tires are pumped with 22.5 PSI, rear with 20.0 PSI. This is half a PSI more than during the test drives in the winter, at the rear still a proud 2 PSI.

    Pirelli explains the return to the policy of caution with the aerodynamics upgrades. Technician Mario Isola: "We got the new output data from the teams three weeks before the race. They are massively higher than before. Especially in the stern. We reacted to that. "


    Simulations in the laboratory in Milan
    Isola also says that this is not the last word spoken. "After the first training day, we will check the situation again. When everything is in the green range, we go back with the pressures. "These tests include not only the Pirelli technicians cutting up various tires and investigating possible damage.
    The second part of the analysis Takes place in the labs in Milan as Isola says: "We take a qualifying round from each car and a round with a lot of gasoline on board. Based on the data of wheel camber, velocities and the forces on the tires, it is simulated which tire pressure is necessary. We have certain formulas to do. "

    Transport damage to Pirelli
    The excitement around allegedly 78 disappeared Pirelli Tire is also elucidated. They have not disappeared. Pirelli found only four transport damages. The tires had touched during transport. "We exchanged the tire sets against new ones. They had to be delivered. That's why they were not in Barcelona until 4pm on Thursday. "

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    may be due to higher tyre pressure, ferrari sufferred in FP1..??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    PIRELLI DEFINES
    Why are the tire pressures so high?

    Pirelli has increased the air pressure of the rear tires by 2 PSI compared to the test runs in Barcelona. Although there were no problems with the test drives. We asked why the change had been made.

    Pirelli surprised the teams before GP Spain. After the Italian tire supplier in the first four races Moderate air pressure, he went in Barcelona the opposite way. At the front, the tires are pumped with 22.5 PSI, rear with 20.0 PSI. This is half a PSI more than during the test drives in the winter, at the rear still a proud 2 PSI.

    Pirelli explains the return to the policy of caution with the aerodynamics upgrades. Technician Mario Isola: "We got the new output data from the teams three weeks before the race. They are massively higher than before. Especially in the stern. We reacted to that. "


    Simulations in the laboratory in Milan
    Isola also says that this is not the last word spoken. "After the first training day, we will check the situation again. When everything is in the green range, we go back with the pressures. "These tests include not only the Pirelli technicians cutting up various tires and investigating possible damage.
    The second part of the analysis Takes place in the labs in Milan as Isola says: "We take a qualifying round from each car and a round with a lot of gasoline on board. Based on the data of wheel camber, velocities and the forces on the tires, it is simulated which tire pressure is necessary. We have certain formulas to do. "

    Transport damage to Pirelli
    The excitement around allegedly 78 disappeared Pirelli Tire is also elucidated. They have not disappeared. Pirelli found only four transport damages. The tires had touched during transport. "We exchanged the tire sets against new ones. They had to be delivered. That's why they were not in Barcelona until 4pm on Thursday. "
    How frustrating! First force the teams to use the hardest possible rubber and then make them inflate them to the point that they're hard as rocks. Way to provide good grip

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPBD View Post
    How frustrating! First force the teams to use the hardest possible rubber and then make them inflate them to the point that they're hard as rocks. Way to provide good grip
    Yeah, these pirelli are giving a hard time for the drivers & teams.
    Its like they are ruling the show. Changing the compounds relative to the track & Unstabilizing tyre pressures. It's not good for F1. Atleast they should consult teams to even discuss regarding tyre pressures.

    This might hand championship advantage to any one of the team, how could they do like this. I'm unable to understand.

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    on with fp2.
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    13:58 Vettel stopped in the pit exit with what he reported to be a gearbox problem this morning. Looks like there may be a problem at Ferrari again now - work going on around the car as Vettel, ready in his race suit and helmet, looks on from the pitlane. - AS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super M View Post
    Can i make a deal with you ???

    Here's my deal. When ferrari do much better in this next practice and in qualy as well as on race day........You're not allowed to post for the rest of the weekend, Deal ???
    with regards to a "deal"....it has to work both ways and not just one sided...fyi......

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    Heard that if there's no problems in fp2.they will lower back to the normal pressure
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    on other note, drivers will find hard to have the grip on these tyres with those high tyre pressures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fronaldo View Post
    Heard that if there's no problems in fp2.they will lower back to the normal pressure
    drivers are finding it tough, i think it should go back to normal pressures for sure.

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