Spain GP 2017 - Practice and qualifying thread

[nani_s23]

Gp3 & F2 races were held
Gp3 Barcelona race won by 2nd place driver. Pole sitter lost his place.
F2: won by pole sitter. Interesting he lost the lead at start to 2nd place driver. but he cut back around turn1 to regain his place.

On both the above occasions 1st position driver lost to 2nd. So it will b interesting tomorrow for f1.

[Rob]

So all the doom and gloomers from Friday are quiet now? you would think they would learn but clearly not Great to see us still there after Merc threw everything they have at the car

Forza Ferrari

[nani_s23]

Mclaren & Honda going to be split.
Mclaren & mercs deal for 2018 is done.
https://www.f1today.net/en/news/f1/2...honda-to-split

[jgonzalesm6]

Mclaren & Honda going to be split.
Mclaren & mercs deal for 2018 is done.
https://www.f1today.net/en/news/f1/2...honda-to-split

bout freakin time!!!!!!.....Mclaren have to suck it up (past deal with the Mercs) and show their "humble card".....

[nani_s23]

bout freakin time!!!!!!.....Mclaren have to suck it up (past deal with the Mercs) and show their "humble card".....

Even if this deal happens, will Alonso leave mclaren??

[stefa]

Even if this deal happens, will Alonso leave mclaren??

Who gives a.....

[jgonzalesm6]

Even if this deal happens, will Alonso leave mclaren??

ahhhhhhhh....the 64,000 dollar question....IMO IF THE DEAL HAPPENS.....no. It will mean several grid positions UP the grid. There is a question of pay though....we will see.

[stefa]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/s...erence-905487/
Vet saying it's not that big disadvantage on dirty side of track.

Hope he is right!

[nani_s23]

So this increases mercs supremacy interms of engine supplier in f1
FI, Williams, mclaren.

[nani_s23]

Hope he is right!

Wts ur prediction for tmrws race

[jgonzalesm6]

So this increases mercs supremacy interms of engine supplier in f1
FI, Williams, mclaren.

yep.....fyi....Mclaren Mercedes deal is not officially confirmed but the "talks" looks to be heading that way.

[nani_s23]

ahhhhhhhh....the 64,000 dollar question....IMO IF THE DEAL HAPPENS.....no. It will mean several grid positions UP the grid. There is a question of pay though....we will see.

In my view if he wants to win 3rd title. He should go Renault, mercs or Ferrari.
Or if he wants only to finish top 5 places then mclaren-mercs is best for him. He can see retirement over there itself.

[jgonzalesm6]

In my view if he wants to win 3rd title. He should go Renault, mercs or Ferrari.
Or if he wants only to finish top 5 places then mclaren-mercs is best for him. He can see retirement over there itself.

Renault you mean Redbull....yes?????

[nani_s23]

Renault you mean Redbull....yes?????

Not RB... engine supplier team in place of palmer.
If Renault gets their act n compete with RB. Then RB will be out of f1.

[mizf1]

At least we are fast on the straights which will be good for the drag to turn 1.

Speed trap

1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari Ferrari 326.5 (202.9)
2 Esteban Ocon Force India Mercedes 325.7 (202.4) -0.8
3 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari Ferrari 325.2 (202.1) -1.3
4 Felipe Massa Williams Mercedes 325.0 (201.9) -1.5
5 Kevin Magnussen Haas Ferrari 323.4 (201.0) -3.1
6 Lance Stroll Williams Mercedes 323.4 (201.0) -3.1
7 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull TAG Heuer 323.0 (200.7) -3.5
8 Sergio Perez Force India Mercedes 322.8 (200.6) -3.7
9 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes Mercedes 322.7 (200.5) -3.8
10 Max Verstappen Red Bull TAG Heuer 322.2 (200.2) -4.3
11 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes Mercedes 321.4 (199.7) -5.1
12 Romain Grosjean Haas Ferrari 320.4 (199.1) -6.1
13 Nico Hulkenberg Renault Renault 319.0 (198.2) -7.5
14 Carlos Sainz Jnr Toro Rosso Renault 318.4 (197.8) -8.1
15 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber Ferrari 318.4 (197.8) -8.1
16 Marcus Ericsson Sauber Ferrari 316.9 (196.9) -9.6
17 Jolyon Palmer Renault Renault 316.2 (196.5) -10.3
18 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso Renault 315.3 (195.9) -11.2
19 Fernando Alonso McLaren Honda 314.1 (195.2) -12.4
20 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren Honda 310.2 (192.7) -16.3

[jgonzalesm6]

Not RB... engine supplier team in place of palmer.
If Renault gets their act n compete with RB. Then RB will be out of f1.

my my my....then you must have a crystal ball

[nani_s23]

At least we are fast on the straights which will be good for the drag to turn 1.

Speed trap

1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari Ferrari 326.5 (202.9)
2 Esteban Ocon Force India Mercedes 325.7 (202.4) -0.8
3 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari Ferrari 325.2 (202.1) -1.3
4 Felipe Massa Williams Mercedes 325.0 (201.9) -1.5
5 Kevin Magnussen Haas Ferrari 323.4 (201.0) -3.1
6 Lance Stroll Williams Mercedes 323.4 (201.0) -3.1
7 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull TAG Heuer 323.0 (200.7) -3.5
8 Sergio Perez Force India Mercedes 322.8 (200.6) -3.7
9 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes Mercedes 322.7 (200.5) -3.8
10 Max Verstappen Red Bull TAG Heuer 322.2 (200.2) -4.3
11 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes Mercedes 321.4 (199.7) -5.1
12 Romain Grosjean Haas Ferrari 320.4 (199.1) -6.1
13 Nico Hulkenberg Renault Renault 319.0 (198.2) -7.5
14 Carlos Sainz Jnr Toro Rosso Renault 318.4 (197.8) -8.1
15 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber Ferrari 318.4 (197.8) -8.1
16 Marcus Ericsson Sauber Ferrari 316.9 (196.9) -9.6
17 Jolyon Palmer Renault Renault 316.2 (196.5) -10.3
18 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso Renault 315.3 (195.9) -11.2
19 Fernando Alonso McLaren Honda 314.1 (195.2) -12.4
20 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren Honda 310.2 (192.7) -16.3

I think we sacrificed s3 for s1& s2 sectors. Above speed trap indicates that way.

[nani_s23]

my my my....then you must have of crystal ball

This is simple logic...no need to crystal balls
RB made fun of Renault in 2014-15.
Now Renault team is getting their act right by making good progress chassis wise.
So if they are in winning position for 3rd place WCC championship why would they give full power to RB?

[jgonzalesm6]

This is simple logic...no need to crystal balls
RB made fun of Renault in 2014-15.
Now Renault team is getting their act right by making good progress chassis wise.
So if they are in winning position for 3rd place WCC championship why would they give full power to RB?

RB threw the Renault PU under the bus...not the Renault team....I think thats what you mean. Nonetheless, I get your point IF Renault ups their game....interesting

[nani_s23]

RB threw the Renault PU under the bus...not the Renault team....I think thats what you mean. Nonetheless, I get your point IF Renault ups their game....interesting

Yeah you got my point.

[jgonzalesm6]

In my view if he wants to win 3rd title. He should go Renault, mercs or Ferrari.
Or if he wants only to finish top 5 places then mclaren-mercs is best for him. He can see retirement over there itself.

I think he will find a better seat elsewhere IF one is avaliable otherwise he will stay with Mclaren.

[Jax]

I don't know if this was posted before but debt saying he basically screwed it all up in the last corner. .. https://youtu.be/_rguLjMnkk4

[jgonzalesm6]

I don't know if this was posted before but debt saying he basically screwed it all up in the last corner. .. [video]https://youtu.be/_rguLjMnkk4[/url]

he is mad at himself. He had pole as he said. The small lock-up cost him according to him.

[nani_s23]

he is mad at himself. He had pole as he said. The small lock-up cost him according to him.

May b tyres didn't last enough, as he extracted much from it in s1&s2

[stefa]

Wts ur prediction for tmrws race

Uhhh.... Tough one... My heart tells me SV, LH, KR, VB... But than again... Who knows... I'll be satisfied with strong performance and both Ferrari on podium too!

[From Treviso]

Such a small margin, that anything would have been enough to have made a difference, and missing out on most of FP3 was pretty much the key factor in missing pole. The extra running time would have been pivotal in dialling-in both the car and the driver. Anyway, the weekend is not over, and it would be nice to see the start go our way for a change :)

[robin]

Can anyone please post best sector times from Q3
Cheers


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[Stormy]

In my view if he wants to win 3rd title. He should go Renault, mercs or Ferrari.
Or if he wants only to finish top 5 places then mclaren-mercs is best for him. He can see retirement over there itself.

No way Renault can win a title before 2020. They just don't invest enough resources at the moment. If Alonso wants to win a title, it's either Ferrari, Mercedes or supposedly Red Bull. No way on earth Red Bull will sign him knowing they are only interested in their drivers from the academy. So, that leaves Ferrari or Merc. We will see, but i doubt either us or Merc will want him. So, announcing his retirement at the end of this season is a big possibility. Let's wait and see.

As for Red Bull leaving F1 in the near future, it's pretty much possible. However, i think they won't go down without a fight. They will do everything to bring another engine manufacturer to F1 to partner with them. To do this, they will argue for more simple engines for 2020 and beyond. If this fails, then they will most probably quit.

As for McLaren they are in huge problems if they go back with Mercedes engines. They are going to be a customer team...horrible for them, really.

[From Treviso]

1:19.172 was the best sectors put together for Vettel. Massive disparity between the Mercs and the others in sec' 3, and Max is ahead of both Ferraris there as well. But it's qualy and not the race. Let's see how the tyre degradation pans out, just like we saw it in Melb.

[Stormy]

1:19.172 was the best sectors put together for Vettel. Massive disparity between the Mercs and the others in sec' 3, and Max is ahead of both Ferraris there as well. But it's qualy and not the race. Let's see how the tyre degradation pans out, just like we saw it in Melb.

I would be feeling more comfortable with softer compounds here but let's wait and see. This track is hard on the tires anyway. Mercedes are not that faster in S3 though, Seb just locked the wheel on the last chicane.