British GP 2017 race thread

**jgonzalesm6** · 16th July 2017, 17:34

Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp

I miss Bridgestone.

Miss them too but they could not adapt to changes that F1 demands and its headaches which says alot about Pirelli currently. Yes, Pirelli has had issues but they correct

them buy the next race IF its there fault or point out why tyres failed.

**nani_s23** · 16th July 2017, 17:38

One thing finally I can say.
This season, I haven't seen Ferrari overtaking mercs car. Except only one occasion vet on bottas.
I've seen mercs overtaking Ferrari cars.
Ham vs vet, bottas vs Kimi, bottas vs vet..

**mwk360** · 16th July 2017, 17:39

do you think ferrari has a chance to keep second place in the Constructors? or will red bull pass us before the end of the year through development?

they are getting a MASSIVE upgrade at hungary i think Ric has said

**mwk360** · 16th July 2017, 17:40

Originally Posted by nani_s23

One thing finally I can say.
This season, I haven't seen Ferrari overtaking mercs car. Except only one occasion vet on bottas.
I've seen mercs overtaking Ferrari cars.
Ham vs vet, bottas vs Kimi, bottas vs vet..

on top of that even in monaco with their Longer wheel base , bottas was like only 0.010 behind or something back when ferrari had a chance

**nani_s23** · 16th July 2017, 17:43

Originally Posted by mwk360

do you think ferrari has a chance to keep second place in the Constructors? or will red bull pass us before the end of the year through development?

they are getting a MASSIVE upgrade at hungary i think Ric has said

RB cannot pass us. But surely they will make mockery of us in the important races if we stay behind them.

**nani_s23** · 16th July 2017, 17:44

Originally Posted by mwk360

on top of that even in monaco with their Longer wheel base , bottas was like only 0.010 behind or something back when ferrari had a chance

Perfect car should perform at every track.
Now that mercs solved their issues, it seems it is strongest car at every track now.

**jgonzalesm6** · 16th July 2017, 17:44

Originally Posted by Stormy

Seb said the brakes compromised his start.

Thats another dept that needs work. Who was it that said "Vettels brakes are on fire" (Max??) Soooo Ferrari developed this clutch pedal behind the steering wheel for

Vettel only, not Kimi, but Vettel has had laggard starts (2x) when he used to be the king of starts for this year. He needs to work on his reaction time or take that clutch

pedal out and revert back to the system Kimi has IMO. What happened to the fire? Smoke yes but that happens to most on the grid.

**nani_s23** · 16th July 2017, 17:51

Ferrari excellent starts are gone.
When I saw that overheating of brakes on vet car where lights were about to go out, I thought something bad gonna happen. It did turn out the same.

**jgonzalesm6** · 16th July 2017, 17:52

Originally Posted by mwk360

do you think ferrari has a chance to keep second place in the Constructors? or will red bull pass us before the end of the year through development?

they are getting a MASSIVE upgrade at hungary i think Ric has said

Thats going to be an interesting race for the constructors 2nd or 3rd place.....to early to tell but Redbull have had PU issues on Max's defense and most of his races have

been DNF's due to mechanical failure. Both Ferrari and RB are in penalty pts with regards to component allotment. Not so much with Mercedes. That said, Mercedes are

in somewhat clean air currently and will distance themselves from Ferrari and RB.

**stefa** · 16th July 2017, 17:54

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Thats going to be an interesting race for the constructors 2nd or 3rd place.....to early to tell but Redbull have had PU issues on Max's defense and most of his races have

been DNF's due to mechanical failure. Both Ferrari and RB are in penalty pts with regards to component allotment. Not so much with Mercedes. That said, Mercedes are

in somewhat clean air currently and will distance themselves from Ferrari and RB.

And we have just 1 point lead as credit for those situations

**stefa** · 16th July 2017, 17:56

Really, really disappointed here, as many of you guys are for sure. I am traveling in two weeks time to Budapest for Hungarian GP. Such a race as this one today is not a good overture to next one. From now on, no mistakes are allowed. Ferrari and their drivers need to perform at 150% level. In Budapest win is a MUST!!!

**Ferrarichamp** · 16th July 2017, 17:58

Originally Posted by stefa

I am traveling in two weeks time to Budapest for Hungarian GP.

enjoy it

**nani_s23** · 16th July 2017, 18:01

I started to hate this guy. Seems like he is working for his team mate
https://formulaspy.com/formula-1/50955-50955

**Ed Harley** · 16th July 2017, 18:02

Originally Posted by nani_s23

Ferrari excellent starts are gone.

In my opinion Kimi's start was very good but he doesn't seem to count.

**Ed Harley** · 16th July 2017, 18:04

Originally Posted by nani_s23

I started to hate this guy. Seems like he is working for his team mate
https://formulaspy.com/formula-1/50955-50955

Isn't that what you & co. expect from Kimi? IIRC there were comments here that KR should take LH out at start, KR should slow VB down etc.

**jgonzalesm6** · 16th July 2017, 18:04

Originally Posted by Ed Harley

In my opinion Kimi's start was very good but he doesn't seem to count.

**nani_s23** · 16th July 2017, 18:08

Originally Posted by Ed Harley

Isn't that what you & co. expect from Kimi? IIRC there were comments here that KR should take LH out at start, KR should slow VB down etc.

I never said Kimi should take ham out or bottas.
I only said Kimi should up his game to conquer 1st place in WCC. He should do similar job what bottas is doing.
Take wins when vet having bad weekend. This is what I said n I stick to that.

**jgonzalesm6** · 16th July 2017, 18:09

Originally Posted by Ed Harley

Isn't that what you & co. expect from Kimi? IIRC there were comments here that KR should take LH out at start, KR should slow VB down etc.

some were suggesting that.....I don't believe it was Nani23...but I totally get what you are saying Ed.

**Ed Harley** · 16th July 2017, 18:09

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

There were some people here saying they will not watch podium ceremonies and yet there was a Ferrari driver up there.

Sometimes I feel Ferrari could do with a bit better fans.

**nani_s23** · 16th July 2017, 18:10

Originally Posted by Ed Harley

In my opinion Kimi's start was very good but he doesn't seem to count.

Kimi had lost place in last race to ric.
This race, he got good start.
But in my opinion good starts means, gain places.
Which Alonso n massa used to do. Those were electrifying starts.

**nani_s23** · 16th July 2017, 18:11

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

some were suggesting that.....I don't believe it was Nani23...but I totally get what you are saying Ed.

Thanks

**Kyss4k** · 16th July 2017, 18:13

Well welcome to our in season development. For those, who are new... there is none. Red Bull has already almost cought us, Mercedes is .5s faster than us even in the race trim. We may have built a great car, but we are incopetent of delivering during the season, and that's super frustrating. Red Bull is preparing second massive upgrade already and we are still racing basically the same car we did in the tests. The only difference is the "magic" cooling floor is missing and the engine is updated. You won't win a championship this way and probably this race was the turning point of this year.

**nani_s23** · 16th July 2017, 18:18

Originally Posted by Kyss4k

Well welcome to our in season development. For those, who are new... there is none. Red Bull has already almost cought us, Mercedes is .5s faster than us even in the race trim. We may have built a great car, but we are incopetent of delivering during the season, and that's super frustrating. Red Bull is preparing second massive upgrade already and we are still racing basically the same car we did in the tests. The only difference is the "magic" cooling floor is missing and the engine is updated. You won't win a championship this way and probably this race was the turning point of this year.

Perfectly said.
But I'm starting to think, Ferrari flexi floor where team closed that hole with some metal in order to make it more legal. Is that effecting the car during race trim. Because from couple of races, race pace is literally missing.

**Greig** · 16th July 2017, 18:21

Red Bull aint caught us.....anyway was Max going off track to come back on ahead of Seb even investigated?

**Rishu** · 16th July 2017, 18:23

Originally Posted by Greig

Red Bull aint caught us.....anyway was Max going off track to come back on ahead of Seb even investigated?

No, Seb ran him out of track & Max doing same with Seb. That's it

**nani_s23** · 16th July 2017, 18:24

Originally Posted by Greig

Red Bull aint caught us.....anyway was Max going off track to come back on ahead of Seb even investigated?

Vet did force him out, then max pushed vet off track.
It's like payback. They counted it racing incident, so didn't go up for investigation

**Greig** · 16th July 2017, 18:24

Originally Posted by Rishu

No, Seb ran him out of track & Max doing same with Seb. That's it

Max left the track and kept his position from what we could see....

**zike** · 16th July 2017, 18:25

Originally Posted by Ed Harley

There were some people here saying they will not watch podium ceremonies and yet there was a Ferrari driver up there.

Sometimes I feel Ferrari could do with a bit better fans.

You are right, we are all mad, but anger comes from the love of our team, at the end we win together we lose together..... as one big family