Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 41

Thread: Alfa Romeo Sauber

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Corpus Christi Tx
    Posts
    2,842

    Alfa Romeo Sauber

    Formula 1: Sauber sign deal with Ferrari for 2018

    Sauber have signed a "multi-year" engine deal with Ferrari from 2018.

    The move, a day after Sauber cancelled their planned switch to Honda engines next year, is a continuation of a relationship that started in 2010.

    Sources say the deal is likely to see Formula 2 frontrunner Charles Leclerc, a Ferrari protege, promoted to Formula 1 with Sauber in 2018.

    The deal is for latest-spec engines the Ferrari works team will use - Sauber are using year-old engines this season.

    The team this year run Swede Marcus Ericsson and German Pascal Wehrlein. Ericsson's backers are part-owners of the team but Wehrlein is funded by Mercedes.

    Team principal Frederic Vasseur said the partnership would "allow us to move forward swiftly and efficiently".

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40751289


    So Wehrlein is out. Spec engines and FINALLY!!!!!! a developement team for Ferrari.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Indonesia
    Posts
    91
    Marchionne says Sauber will be a Ferrari junior team

    Ferrari president Sergio Marchionne has said that Sauber will become a Ferrari junior team in light of the newly announced engine deal. In Hungary, Sauber confirmed that it had cancelled its deal to run with Honda engines in 2018 and instead announced a deal with Ferrari.

    The deal will also see the Hinwil-based squad run with up-to-date power, as year-old power units are hampering its 2017 season. Giancarlo Minardi said that Haas retaining its current line-up in 2018 was a missed opportunity for Ferrari to push one of its junior drivers into Formula 1.

    Charles Leclerc and Antonio Giovinazzi are both waiting in the sidelines, hoping for a racing seat in 2018 with their best opportunity coming with Sauber now that the deal surrounding engines has been announced. Speaking in Hungary, Marchionne said that Sauber would now form into a junior team for its drivers.

    "The engines for Sauber are also a way to create a kind of junior team for our young drivers. We have two great young talents, but to secure the future of Ferrari, we need the chance to train them somewhere. We need space for them, so it's a great idea and we're working on it. Maurizio Arrivabene has worked hard on this project, and I want to say also that in agreement with Liberty Media we will also increase the number of customers for our engines.

    "They tell me Giovinazzi did a great job for us, driving here (for Haas) on Friday and then on Friday night returning to be in the simulator," continued Marchionne. "He worked late to make sure there was no mistake in balancing the car. He's back here (in Hungary) with us now and I see that quite rightly he is tired."

    Source: https://www.f1today.net/en/news/f1/2...ri-junior-team

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    30
    Farewell to Marcus Ericsson and Pascal Wehrlein. The former shouldn't be in the series and for the latter it is up to Mercedes to find a place.

    Bring on our guys!

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    1,624
    This is fantastic and exciting news. It feels like we will now have four Ferraris to root for in 2018. Hopefully we will see Leclerc and Giovinazzi there.

    FORZA FERRARI!
    Tous avec Jules #17

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Christchurch,UK
    Posts
    2,987
    Quote Originally Posted by Giallo 550 View Post
    This is fantastic and exciting news. It feels like we will now have four Ferraris to root for in 2018. Hopefully we will see Leclerc and Giovinazzi there.
    + 1, completely agree Giallo 550, just what we need to get some young talent to develop into future Ferrari champions.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Belgrade, Serbia
    Posts
    9,367
    Great news. I don't know why it took them so long?

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    30
    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Great news. I don't know why it took them so long?
    Sauber was in deep mess. It was also a quite recent event that Haas would go it's own way meaning no room for FDA guys.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    1,624
    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Great news. I don't know why it took them so long?
    If I had to guess, I would think that it's because Ferrari has been around so long and has been stuck in its ways, for better and for worse. I think this was a very good decision.

    FORZA FERRARI!
    Tous avec Jules #17

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Florida.
    Posts
    256
    http://www.grandprix247.com/2017/08/...as-and-sauber/
    I guess will be Alfa Romeo brand.


    "Big things have small beginings"
    "Perseverence is power"

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Vancouver Canada
    Posts
    105
    Great news for the Ferrari jr drivers, both i think will be great.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Garden of England
    Posts
    592
    Quote Originally Posted by Giallo 550 View Post
    This is fantastic and exciting news. It feels like we will now have four Ferraris to root for in 2018. Hopefully we will see Leclerc and Giovinazzi there.
    This.
    We're doomed, Cap'n Mainwaring, doomed I tell ye!

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Corpus Christi Tx
    Posts
    2,842
    deal is done

    Alfa Romeo returns to F1 in Sauber partnership https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/s...ership-983901/ … via @motorsport

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Pangea
    Posts
    2,504
    Nice. Now announce Giovinazzi & Leclerc for next year.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    N. Delhi/Helsinki
    Posts
    3,959
    Great news, Car should look like a beauty then
    “I prefer to beat them on Sunday” -Fernando Alonso, Press Conference Korean GP 2010

    "Giornata fantastica !!"- Andrea Stella, European GP 2012


  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    East Brunswick, NJ
    Posts
    1,400
    So Honda is kicked to the curb and out of F1 again? Holy poop their return was nothing short of a total disaster.

    I hope Giovinazzi gets the second seat tho he did screw the pooch a bit in China. Pascal Wehrlein has some skill but he is backed by Merc so screw him. Marcus Ericsson is only there because of money so I hope Giovinazzi gets his seat.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Stowmarket. U.K
    Posts
    16,837
    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    So Honda is kicked to the curb and out of F1 again? Holy poop their return was nothing short of a total disaster.

    I hope Giovinazzi gets the second seat tho he did screw the pooch a bit in China. Pascal Wehrlein has some skill but he is backed by Merc so screw him. Marcus Ericsson is only there because of money so I hope Giovinazzi gets his seat.
    Honda is going to Torro Rosso.
    CAVALLINO RAMPANTE PER SEMPRE

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    East Brunswick, NJ
    Posts
    1,400
    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Honda is going to Torro Rosso.
    Oh duh!

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Corpus Christi Tx
    Posts
    2,842

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Christchurch,UK
    Posts
    2,987
    Concept of the car's 2018 livery looks great, Swiss colours too, Leclerc and Ericsson confirmed with Giovinazzi as 3rd driver, which is a shame and I hope it doesn't mean he gets side-lined in the process. So who is Ferrari's no3 driver for 2018, I wonder?

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Helsinki
    Posts
    1,989
    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Nice. Now announce Giovinazzi & Leclerc for next year.
    Alfa Romeo Sauber, Ericsson and Leclerc are drivers.

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Skopje, Macedonia
    Posts
    2,068
    Quote Originally Posted by KimiBot View Post
    Alfa Romeo Sauber, Ericsson and Leclerc are drivers.
    Ericsson doesn't belong in F1 anymore. But hey, what you gonna do, he has huge financial backers behind him. Can't wait for Charles though.

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Corpus Christi Tx
    Posts
    2,842
    Quote Originally Posted by wisepie View Post
    Concept of the car's 2018 livery looks great, Swiss colours too, Leclerc and Ericsson confirmed with Giovinazzi as 3rd driver, which is a shame and I hope it doesn't mean he gets side-lined in the process. So who is Ferrari's no3 driver for 2018, I wonder?
    Quote Originally Posted by KimiBot View Post
    Alfa Romeo Sauber, Ericsson and Leclerc are drivers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    Ericsson doesn't belong in F1 anymore. But hey, what you gonna do, he has huge financial backers behind him. Can't wait for Charles though.

    Ericsson already coming up with excuses for 2018. I would not want to be in his shoes with LeClerc as a team-mate.

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Pangea
    Posts
    2,504
    Well I'm disappointed. But at the end of the day Giovinazzi is Ferrari's responsibility & they keep signing Raikkonen again and again . Talents like Gio deserves to be in F1.

    Lets hope Leclerc lives to expectations. And good luck to Alfa Romeo Sauber.
    Last edited by tifosi1993; 2nd December 2017 at 15:46.

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Corpus Christi Tx
    Posts
    2,842
    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Well I'm disappointed. But at the end of the day Giovinazzi is Ferrari's responsibility & they keep signing Raikkonen again and again . Talents like Gio deserves to be in F1.
    I think Ferrari/Alfa are gonna see how ERI does this year....maybe mid-year.....and IF he's not up to par with LeClerc then I believe they will stick GIO in the seat....so for now, GIO is on the back burner and 2019 could be LEC and GIO.

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Skopje, Macedonia
    Posts
    2,068
    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I think Ferrari/Alfa are gonna see how ERI does this year....maybe mid-year.....and IF he's not up to par with LeClerc then I believe they will stick GIO in the seat....so for now, GIO is on the back burner and 2019 could be LEC and GIO.
    Besides, you can't put someone like GIO in a Ferrari. He's not ready yet. But i believe he'll get a seat next year.

  26. #26
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    East Brunswick, NJ
    Posts
    1,400
    Gio and Charles are talented for sure but they need to start out in lower teams like everyone else. With Alfa, Ferrari will be able to groom young drivers like RBR was been able to with STR. Kimi may even need to stay on for 2019, moving someone up from Sauber to the the Ferrari works team after one season, even someone as talented and Charles may be dangerous.

  27. #27
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    India
    Posts
    3,890
    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Well I'm disappointed. But at the end of the day Giovinazzi is Ferrari's responsibility & they keep signing Raikkonen again and again . Talents like Gio deserves to be in F1.

    Lets hope Leclerc lives to expectations. And good luck to Alfa Romeo Sauber.
    Me too disappointed. My feeling too is the same.
    But I think there r some probabilities after next year.
    1. Charles leclerc in sauber for 1yr. Then move to Haas in 2019.
    2. Gio will replace Charles at sauber for 2019.

    Eric will not be moved as hes bringing the much needed investment into the team.

  28. #28
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Kitchener, CANADA
    Posts
    5,475
    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Well I'm disappointed. But at the end of the day Giovinazzi is Ferrari's responsibility & they keep signing Raikkonen again and again . Talents like Gio deserves to be in F1.

    Lets hope Leclerc lives to expectations. And good luck to Alfa Romeo Sauber.
    i hope i'm wrong about Gio, but everytime he tested for sauber this year, he SMACKED the car every single time to a team that is pretty tight with money.....he seemed to make quite a few mistakes while running in free practice for sauber.....i know that sauber was not the best car and prolly not the best car to drive, BUT STILL......

    like i said, i hope i'm wrong about Gio.....only time will te..
    ...the new SF70H looks amazing. Let's hope it's gonna be as FAST as it looks.


  29. #29
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Kitchener, CANADA
    Posts
    5,475
    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    I think Ferrari/Alfa are gonna see how ERI does this year....maybe mid-year.....and IF he's not up to par with LeClerc then I believe they will stick GIO in the seat....so for now, GIO is on the back burner and 2019 could be LEC and GIO.
    more like Seb and Lec driving for Ferrari for 2019, when Kimi will finally get the BOOT......there i fixed it for ya.....ha, ha....
    ...the new SF70H looks amazing. Let's hope it's gonna be as FAST as it looks.


  30. #30
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    1,624
    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    i hope i'm wrong about Gio, but everytime he tested for sauber this year, he SMACKED the car every single time to a team that is pretty tight with money.....he seemed to make quite a few mistakes while running in free practice for sauber.....i know that sauber was not the best car and prolly not the best car to drive, BUT STILL......

    like i said, i hope i'm wrong about Gio.....only time will te..
    This is exactly how I feel about Gio as well. I remember watching those sessions with my father and he couldn't figure out why they allowed him to keep lighting their money on fire by crashing their car. I can't imagine the mechanics were too happy with him either. Nevertheless, he's a Ferrari product and I want to see him do well. However, based on the little I have seen, he is not Leclerc. Watching Leclerc next season should be very entertaining and I cannot wait to see Vettel/Leclerc in 2019. Hopefully the car is fit for a hopefully five time champion and a young Ferrari prodigy.

    FORZA FERRARI!
    Tous avec Jules #17

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •