2017 Malaysian Grand Prix - Last Race

[nani_s23]

It clearly indicates, Ferrari doesn't have enough power on F1. Mercs controlling the things rules, incidents etc..

Apart from it, Ferrari carrying bad luck everywhere. I've never seen so many incidents in one weekend for Ferrari in recent past years (fp3 issue, quali issue, race start for Kimi, seb cool down lap incident). Such was the luck.

Anyways past is past. 34 point deficit, 125pts on stake.
Need 1DNF from ham n 2wins from vet in 3 of 5 races left. Got to be pretty big ask.

[Kristof_F40]

What is good though is we had a very fast car, normally we would have won Singapore and Malaysia, I think we should give credit for that to the team. However, it's unfortunate how things unfolded..
Monza was bad, probably because the rain on Saturday prevented us to optimize everything? We've seen this at a lot of race we improve a lot on saturday

[Kristof_F40]

Not smart from VET to take the taxi from Wehrlein, if he gets penalty points he could be in trouble since he already has a lot.. Remember Webber and Alonso Singapore 2013..

[evo_spook]

It clearly indicates, Ferrari doesn't have enough power on F1. Mercs controlling the things rules, incidents etc..

Sorry to say, but some of you need to step away from the keyboard and grow up.

It's all in your heads.

[nani_s23]

After summer break
Mercs : ham - 25,25,25,18 = 143 pts
Ferrari : vet - 18,15,dnf,12 = 45pts

I think WCC is pretty much over with 5 races to go.

Damn vet needs atleast 4 wins in 5 races.

[Vettel165]

Well Seb was very good today, shame about kimi, he would have won today!
On old points system the standing does look much better, Vettel is 13 points behind with 50 to go. Seb was 10 points (25 points on new system) behind Alonso with 2 races to go. But we need some luck, its time to change things to better, starting in Suzuka! Forza!

[nani_s23]

Sorry to say, but some of you need to step away from the keyboard and grow up.

It's all in your heads.

Even if I stay away from the keyboard. the mercs dominance on F1 or FIA doesn't change.

[evo_spook]

Even if I stay away from the keyboard. the mercs dominance on F1 or FIA doesn't change.

It's in your head.

[nani_s23]

Well Seb was very good today, shame about kimi, he would have won today!
On old points system the standing does look much better, Vettel is 13 points behind with 50 to go. Seb was 10 points (25 points on new system) behind Alonso with 2 races to go. But we need some luck, its time to change things to better, starting in Suzuka! Forza!

Yeah that's what I'm calling, we need luck.
We have fast car after summer break.
Spa fastest car, Monza set up was wrong, Singapore fastest car, Malaysia fastest car.
So we have right tools to make it. Just need bit of luck.

[nani_s23]

It's in your head.

Wts in my head, I'll put it in words that's it.
If there's nothing, post will be empty.

[Kyss4k]

It's in your head.

It isn't. It was Mercedes who pushed FIA into the engine rules and they had basically 2 years of a head start on them.

[nani_s23]

It isn't. It was Mercedes who pushed FIA into the engine rules and they had basically 2 years of a head start on them.

Exactly my point. Even 2010-2013 it was RB who bent the rules n having their say on F1. Even 2017 rules were dictated by RB for aero importance.

[evo_spook]

It isn't. It was Mercedes who pushed FIA into the engine rules and they had basically 2 years of a head start on them.

Wierd how merc control FIA so much that they got their suspensions banned.
Wierd how Lewis got a penalty for reversing in the pit lane even though a steward told him to.

If thinking it's fixed makes failures easier to take otherwise you are just deluding yourselfs.

[nani_s23]

One more point I want to add regarding James Allison.
Im starting to believe that he hasn't had any touch on this year's car by looking at the raft of updates Ferrari are bringing at every race n direction of technical department.
Ferrari certainly moving in right direction.

[Kyss4k]

Wierd how merc control FIA so much that they got their suspensions banned.
Wierd how Lewis got a penalty for reversing in the pit lane even though a steward told him to.

If thinking it's fixed makes failures easier to take otherwise you are just deluding yourselfs.

Do you wanna hear all the stuff that they got a free pass on? The suspension should have been banned the first race, they raced with it! And they let them use it for a whole season (or was it two seasons?) Reversing in pitlane is forbidden no matter what

[Otakukim]

The 3 best vettel circuits are turning into utter disasters haha. I cant :(

[nani_s23]

Wierd how merc control FIA so much that they got their suspensions banned.
Wierd how Lewis got a penalty for reversing in the pit lane even though a steward told him to.

If thinking it's fixed makes failures easier to take otherwise you are just deluding yourselfs.

When did their suspensions got banned ...?? After their dominance ??? Oil burn system ?? When few rivals got it? N others couldn't ???
Wt was the penalty imposed when they did break the rules n had a secret test with Pirelli ???

[mizf1]

Vettel driver of the day.

If that had gone to anyone else I really would habe thought we have no luck.

[evo_spook]

When did their suspensions got banned ...?? After their dominance ??? Oil burn system ?? When few rivals got it? N others couldn't ???
Wt was the penalty imposed when they did break the rules n had a secret test with Pirelli ???

They have had different suspensions, okay by fia and then banned, which is strange if Merc have fia in their pockets.

[nani_s23]

Wierd how merc control FIA so much that they got their suspensions banned.
Wierd how Lewis got a penalty for reversing in the pit lane even though a steward told him to.

If thinking it's fixed makes failures easier to take otherwise you are just deluding yourselfs.

Another thing to add, why did FIA told to remove 2nd oil tank immediately when Ferrari carried in their car which was complained to them by mercs technical director JA former Ferrari employee. ???
Why can't FIA tell to Ferrari remove them for next year ?

[nani_s23]

They have had different suspensions, okay by fia and then banned, which is strange if Merc have fia in their pockets.

Pretty much same suspension from past 3yrs.
This year they were caught by Ferrari protest or clarification over it. So they changed it.

[evo_spook]

Another thing to add, why did FIA told to remove 2nd oil tank immediately when Ferrari carried in their car which was complained to them by mercs technical director JA former Ferrari employee. ???
Why can't FIA tell to Ferrari remove them for next year ?

You mean, you think it's a conspiracy cause FIA treated Ferrari the same as they treat other teams.
They should then have told merc they could keep their suspension this year.

[paneristi]

Very very true.

It isn't. It was Mercedes who pushed FIA into the engine rules and they had basically 2 years of a head start on them.

[evo_spook]

Pretty much same suspension from past 3yrs.
This year they were caught by Ferrari protest or clarification over it. So they changed it.

Nope.

[nani_s23]

They have had different suspensions, okay by fia and then banned, which is strange if Merc have fia in their pockets.

You haven't given answer for oil burn issue & secret test.

[nani_s23]

You mean, you think it's a conspiracy cause FIA treated Ferrari the same as they treat other teams.
They should then have told merc they could keep their suspension this year.

They would have told that. But Ferrari were strong on this case as they logded complaint pretty much open by writing a letter involved with other teams.
RB, mercs , FI were the teams which were using it.

[Ed Harley]

This was such a borefest that Lap 32 I gave up, took the Jag out and went for a drive. Which was nice.

[nani_s23]

Any news on vet's car gear box thing.
If it's damaged. I see 5 place penalty for new gear box in next race.

[mwk360]

Ferrari believes RAI problem is same as VET's in qual - issue with a carbon pipe from an outside supplier

[mwk360]

Ferrari pointed out to FIA that crash happened after flag, but there is no flexibility on when damage occurs, so it will be a penalty