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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo lalli View Post
    More teams need to step up thanks red bull for making the rest of seaon spicy.
    No other teams except Ferrari, RB have that scope to move ahead mercs. In the last part of the races.
    If there's a chance it should be Renault as they r catching up & McLaren. But I don't see that happening.

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    If malaysia is anything to go by, barring any mechanical issues, we should win the race. I cant see RBR or Merc keeping up with the Ferrari.
    Rain however can change everything. RBR with max does well in the rains. And LH is a good rain driver too.
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    Vijay Mallya arrested in London for the second time this year for Money Laundering charges.

    Force India's Mallya released on bail after second arrest.

    Still facing possible extradition back to India to face charges.

    Mallya arrested again https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2017...rrested-again/ … via @joesaward

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Vijay Mallya arrested in London for the second time this year for Money Laundering charges.

    Force India's Mallya released on bail after second arrest.

    Still facing possible extradition back to India to face charges.

    Mallya arrested again https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2017...rrested-again/ … via @joesaward

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    Here in India, they are trying hard to bring him down.
    But it's not working for them currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Here in India, they are trying hard to bring him down.
    But it's not working for them currently.
    I suspected something like that. 'Money laundering' sounds like a fabricated excuse to arrest anyone with a bit of cash.

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    Even after 30 years, all drivers like it

    Suzuka, 3 October – Torrential rain greeted the Scuderia Ferrari team members as they landed in Japan. However, the current forecast is for better weather over the weekend, with the possible exception of Friday.

    The Suzuka track is one of the classics of the Formula One Championship and exactly 30 years ago, it hosted its first Grand Prix. On that occasion, the race was won by Gerhard Berger in a Ferrari F1/87, the Austrian having started from pole position. From then on, apart from a couple of years when the race returned to Fuji, Formula One has always raced at this track in the Mie prefecture.

    The track is pretty much universally liked by the drivers, even if no one can forget the 2014 tragedy that befell Jules Bianchi, a rising star for motor racing and for the Prancing Horse. Technically, it’s an “old style” circuit, narrow, with minimal run-off areas, corners with only one clear line and an interesting range of turns. The best known of these is undoubtedly the double uphill “esses” after the first corner, a place where Michael Schumacher was particularly adept at making a difference and there was almost a sense of destiny in the fact that, twice, he clinched the Drivers’ title here with Ferrari, in 2000 and 2003.

    The key to Suzuka, in terms of driving, is to find a rhythm, so that getting the flow right through the turns is the key to success. With the 2017 cars and their very high aerodynamic downforce levels, a tricky corner such as the famous 130R, named after the original radius of its turn, could almost become a straight. But that won’t make the Japanese track and it’s unusual setting within an amusement park, any less of a challenge. And as for the fans, they are truly unique when it comes to their level of passion and enthusiasm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Here in India, they are trying hard to bring him down.
    But it's not working for them currently.
    What's the story in India? Do you think he's wanted because of political reasons maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Here in India, they are trying hard to bring him down.
    But it's not working for them currently.
    There are youtube videos from several years back of the Indian government seizing his properties and huge car collection. One video shows cars being driven off his property.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    What's the story in India? Do you think he's wanted because of political reasons maybe?
    He owes the Indian government, they claim, either close to or over a billion USD from his Sahara/Kingfisher (mostly Kingfisher (beer)) entities. Indian govt. wants their money back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    What's the story in India? Do you think he's wanted because of political reasons maybe?
    Owes loads of money to lenders and has secrets people in power don't want him to reveal!

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    #TechF1 Differences between #KimiRaikkonen's ���� and #SebastianVettel's ����#Ferrari���� #SF70H #Amus


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    What's the story in India? Do you think he's wanted because of political reasons maybe?
    Yes political is also part of it. As govt has been changed here.
    In his years, he has favourable govt to him political leader do support him 3yrs ago.
    Now that govt changed, and this govt is pretty strict on corruption & these kind of people who owe alot of money to bank & private people.
    He literally betrayed Kingfisher airlines staff by not paying them their wages for an year or so.

    He has business everywhere F1 (force India), cricket (IPL, indian premier league, team name : royal challengers Bangalore), liquor, airlines (Kingfisher).

    He has a son, Siddarth malya who used date film actress Deepika Padukone earlier.

    Now govt is trying to recover his properties n keeping it in auction. There were few business tycoons, film stars who manged to get his properties when on sale.

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    Suzuka Race Info and Attendance (1987 thru 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlZ66W0AEYPri.jpg


    Number of Poles (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ0X0AA6bjs.jpg


    Number of Fastest Laps (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ9W0AAlq-s.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Yes political is also part of it. As govt has been changed here.
    In his years, he has favourable govt to him political leader do support him 3yrs ago.
    Now that govt changed, and this govt is pretty strict on corruption & these kind of people who owe alot of money to bank & private people.
    He literally betrayed Kingfisher airlines staff by not paying them their wages for an year or so.

    He has business everywhere F1 (force India), cricket (IPL, indian premier league, team name : royal challengers Bangalore), liquor, airlines (Kingfisher).

    He has a son, Siddarth malya who used date film actress Deepika Padukone earlier.

    Now govt is trying to recover his properties n keeping it in auction. There were few business tycoons, film stars who manged to get his properties when on sale.
    thnks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Suzuka Race Info and Attendance (1987 thru 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlZ66W0AEYPri.jpg


    Number of Poles (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ0X0AA6bjs.jpg


    Number of Fastest Laps (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ9W0AAlq-s.jpg
    Wts the weather forecast...??
    Sometime ago saw it as dry quali n race. Friday wet track

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Wts the weather forecast...??
    Sometime ago saw it as dry quali n race. Friday wet track

    This is what I have so far......but it can change. I would wait till Thursday for a better predicament.

    Weather update - https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/5day/l/JAXX0112:1:JA

    Friday....... rain 100% 18C
    Saturday... 30% rain chance 23C
    Sunday..... Sunny and 26C

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    This is what I have so far......but it can change. I would wait till Thursday for a better predicament.

    Weather update - https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/5day/l/JAXX0112:1:JA

    Friday....... rain 100% 18C
    Saturday... 30% rain chance 23C
    Sunday..... Sunny and 26C
    If Friday is washout, it will interesting to see teams approach for sat fp3. Mainly Ferrari, as their strategy this season improvement follows from fp1-fp2-fp3.
    Where mercs is always fast straight out of the box.

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    Nico Rosberg joins Sky Sports F1 for the Japanese GP http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/124...he-japanese-gp … via @SkySports

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Yes political is also part of it. As govt has been changed here.
    In his years, he has favourable govt to him political leader do support him 3yrs ago.
    Now that govt changed, and this govt is pretty strict on corruption & these kind of people who owe alot of money to bank & private people.
    He literally betrayed Kingfisher airlines staff by not paying them their wages for an year or so.

    He has business everywhere F1 (force India), cricket (IPL, indian premier league, team name : royal challengers Bangalore), liquor, airlines (Kingfisher).

    He has a son, Siddarth malya who used date film actress Deepika Padukone earlier.

    Now govt is trying to recover his properties n keeping it in auction. There were few business tycoons, film stars who manged to get his properties when on sale.
    I see, thanks. Hope Force India can find a new owner if something happens.

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    Just like an indian curry this story will become spicy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Suzuka Race Info and Attendance (1987 thru 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlZ66W0AEYPri.jpg


    Number of Poles (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ0X0AA6bjs.jpg


    Number of Fastest Laps (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ9W0AAlq-s.jpg
    Not sure if they've taken off few stands but attendance trend shows where F1 is heading. Pre-refuelling ban era was more spicier
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Suzuka Race Info and Attendance (1987 thru 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlZ66W0AEYPri.jpg


    Number of Poles (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ0X0AA6bjs.jpg


    Number of Fastest Laps (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ9W0AAlq-s.jpg
    Surprised at the attendance records for the years when Ferrari was dominant. It was a common thread that Ferrari winning all the time was bad for viewership...

    Overall I like our chances here. I hope all the bad luck to be had was done with in Malaysia and this should mean a strong, trouble-free Japanese GP for the Scuderia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Suzuka Race Info and Attendance (1987 thru 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlZ66W0AEYPri.jpg


    Number of Poles (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ0X0AA6bjs.jpg


    Number of Fastest Laps (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ9W0AAlq-s.jpg
    Last year we had less then half the attendance which they had during the 90's and the start of the century

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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo lalli View Post
    Just like an indian curry this story will become spicy.
    this is not big enough story. There are alot of other stories which are much spiciest in India currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Suzuka Race Info and Attendance (1987 thru 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlZ66W0AEYPri.jpg


    Number of Poles (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ0X0AA6bjs.jpg


    Number of Fastest Laps (Driver, Team and Engine - 1987 - 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSlHJ9W0AAlq-s.jpg
    Wow the Merc era has brought in the lowest numbers... not surprising
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    I was just looking at the bookies' odds for this race, winning constructor, they have Merc favourites, then Red Bull ahead of Ferrari

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    I was just looking at the bookies' odds for this race, winning constructor, they have Merc favourites, then Red Bull ahead of Ferrari
    That's becoz of kimi, Ferrari reliability, mad max taking out Ferrari where ric take the win. These are the factors

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    That's becoz of kimi, Ferrari reliability, mad max taking out Ferrari where ric take the win. These are the factors
    yeah, but RB reliability has not been good either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    I was just looking at the bookies' odds for this race, winning constructor, they have Merc favourites, then Red Bull ahead of Ferrari
    I guess those odds were published before sebs gearbox got cleared

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    Huhhhhh god these skyf1 guys n British media blaming Vettel after stroll-vet crash in Malaysia by new released footage from stroll's car. They are non stop blaming Vettel.

    These guys are bunch of idiots.

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    Ferrari have lot of work do on simulator for this weekend to find right set-up as fp1 FP2 would be wet.
    Going into fp3 Ferrari should nail it. As mercs seems to be vulnerable. I think RB would be up there as there will be mixed conditions. If it's proper dry track then it's ferrari.
    Wt Ferrari need is Kimi to be up there with Vettel in all these races. N RB to be there up ahead of mercs for couple of races

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