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    Santander quits on Ferrari in 2018

    Last edited by SilverSpeed; 26th November 2017 at 17:03.
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    thats a good chunk of change. Can't blame them though.


    here's the translation


    Banco Santander abandons Formula 1 by breaking the sponsorship with Ferrari

    The financial institution has decided not to continue as the main sponsor of the Italian team after an alliance of eight years and a direct investment of almost 300 million.

    The next season of Formula 1 will not have the white flame on a red background that characterizes the Banco Santander logo. The financial group chaired by Ana Botín has decided not to continue with the sponsorship of the great prizes of motorsport and, above all, of Ferrari . According to sources close to the talks, the Spanish entity has rejected the proposal of the Italian team to continue as the main 'partner' of its cars after eight years financing the pilots of the 'Cavallino Rampante'.

    Banco Santander has been paying 40 million euros per season for putting its mark on the monkeys of Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Raikkonen, its two stars today, and formerly of Felipe Massa and Fernando Alonso . Because the arrival of the Asturian to Ferrari in 2010 was what encouraged the first Spanish bank by capitalization to make the largest investment in its history in the world of sponsorships. Emilio Botín, lover of the races, was the true promoter of this agreement that linked to two brands of undoubted prestige and that he sought to facilitate that Alonso returned to become champion of the world.

    After a promising start and two runners-up - the first he lost in the last race, just before Vettel - the four seasons of Alonso at Ferrari were disappointing to the point that in 2014 the team did not get any victory for the first time in twenty-one years . The Spanish driver left Maranello that season on the road to McLaren, but Santander had already decided in 2012 to extend the initial agreement with the Italian firm, which expired in 2014, until the end of 2017.

    Precisely, next December 31, the alliance between the bank and the team expires. According to sources close to the talks, Santander has not accepted the demands of Ferrari, which has asked for an additional effort of 40 million per season. The financial institution, which has spent $ 280 million to wear the historic red fireballs, plus another amount close to 10 million euros for baptizing the grand prizes, is not for the task of prolonging the agreement.

    It is possible that Santander will continue with Ferrari as a secondary 'sponsor', but other sources say that the distance is now so great that the most logical thing is to completely abandon the sponsorship of the Italian team and Formula 1. Banco Santander is spent 450 million in total in markéting if investment in other sponsorships is included, such as La Liga and Copa Libertadores in Latin America, advertising, promotional events, trips with clients, employees and interest groups.

    A profitability that is expensive

    A motor circus that, as explained by the entity on several occasions, has generated a large return on investment in the proportion of three euros for each euro paid, according to data audited by Mediasport Marketing and Havas Sport. These signatures measure how many times the bank's name or logo appears on television and the photographs in press regarding the cost that a traditional advertising insertion would have.

    Emilio Botín, lover of the races, was the true promoter of this agreement that linked two brands of undoubted prestige

    According to official figures, F1 has a legion of 400 million unique spectators. In Spain there are 13 million fans , which add to the 52 million in Brazil; the 20 million from the United Kingdom and the 26 million from Germany, countries where Banco Santander is one of the reference banks and where the great prizes were baptized with the name of the Spanish group. 30% of the followers of the F1 are located in these main markets of the entity, which represent more than half of the benefit.

    The general director of Communication, Corporate Marketing and Studies of Santander, as well as vice president of Santander Spain, Juan Manuel Cendoya , has stated on several occasions that the average return has been even "higher" than that obtained by the entity during the stage of Fernando Alonso in the Italian team. However, now he has decided to get out of the car because driving a Ferrari has become too expensive in the face of the pretensions of the owners of the luxury car brand.

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    It's ok that money gets paid to Marlboro who own all advertising on our car.................or so some claimed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    It's ok that money gets paid to Marlboro who own all advertising on our car.................or so some claimed.
    yep, Malboro is taking the hit...not Ferrari. Still though, they're(PM) gonna have to find another sponsor or sponsors to make up for the lost revenue so PM's advertising dept will be working overtime these next couple of months before the start of the 2018 season. Let's see what happens and who they pick up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    yep, Malboro is taking the hit...not Ferrari. Still though, they're(PM) gonna have to find another sponsor or sponsors to make up for the lost revenue so PM's advertising dept will be working overtime these next couple of months before the start of the 2018 season. Let's see what happens and who they pick up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    yep, Malboro is taking the hit...not Ferrari. Still though, they're(PM) gonna have to find another sponsor or sponsors to make up for the lost revenue so PM's advertising dept will be working overtime these next couple of months before the start of the 2018 season. Let's see what happens and who they pick up.
    I think they will go with Mclaren

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    I think they will go with Mclaren

    They seem to love Alonso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    They seem to love Alonso.
    Yeah. McLaren with renault combo

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Yeah. McLaren with renault combo
    Speaking of which, Mclaren goes to their original papaya orange for 2018...fyi.

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    Maybe now we will see the shield on the fronts of the caps instead of "Santander."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    I think they will go with Mclaren
    Ya, they will almost definitely be with McLaren next year...Horner thinks Zack Brown has signed a major sponsor for next year. Makes sense to follow Alonso...

    http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/...n-removal-2018
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    Ya, they will almost definitely be with McLaren next year...Horner thinks Zack Brown has signed a major sponsor for next year. Makes sense to follow Alonso...

    http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/...n-removal-2018
    Yeah. Imagine if they didn't manage to keep Alonso, they would've been in deep trouble now. No wonder they were so desperate to extend his contract, that dude is a sponsor magnet. Oh well, maybe Santander will have a positive influence on their livery because that papaya orange is kind of annoying.

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    I hope Ferrari doesn't abandon white after this. All red looks bland to me, personal preferences, I know not all would agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    Yeah. Imagine if they didn't manage to keep Alonso, they would've been in deep trouble now. No wonder they were so desperate to extend his contract, that dude is a sponsor magnet. Oh well, maybe Santander will have a positive influence on their livery because that papaya orange is kind of annoying.
    The black makes it look worse than it really is. Maybe they will go white with papaya orange for Santander, that combo would look 100 times better imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    The black makes it look worse than it really is. Maybe they will go white with papaya orange for Santander, that combo would look 100 times better imo.
    Yeah you may have a point. However, they have to play smart and not just replace the black with white. By the way, what do you think about dominating black with small shades of orange?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    I think they will go with Mclaren
    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    They seem to love Alonso.
    So Johnnie Walker will "keep walking" with all the money?
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    So who will be our sponsor next year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    Ya, they will almost definitely be with McLaren next year...Horner thinks Zack Brown has signed a major sponsor for next year. Makes sense to follow Alonso...
    Quote Originally Posted by vcs316 View Post
    So Johnnie Walker will "keep walking" with all the money?

    Petrobras to sponsor McLaren-Renault in 2018 F1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfunk257 View Post
    So who will be our sponsor next year?

    We still have quite a few of them. I'm sure others will be clammering for the spot. Santander are being sued by other banks and Banco Popular is shutting down so sponsoring is way down on their priority list for the moment.

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    On this list Santander is #19 so there are perhaps many other candidates should they wish to continue with a bank as sponsor.

    For example Wells Fargo is #10 and their color would match.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_banks

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    Finally! This is the last link to Botín and Alonso. This can only be a good thing. The curse will be lifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 512 TR View Post
    Finally! This is the last link to Botín and Alonso. This can only be a good thing. The curse will be lifted.
    Hah yeah, it might be a good omen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    We still have quite a few of them. I'm sure others will be clammering for the spot. Santander are being sued by other banks and Banco Popular is shutting down so sponsoring is way down on their priority list for the moment.
    We only have Marlboro though? all other sponsors are irrelevant to us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    We only have Marlboro though? all other sponsors are irrelevant to us?
    I think Marlboro buy the whole car space and sell it on, therefore we should still get the same amount of money

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    Quote Originally Posted by 512 TR View Post
    Finally! This is the last link to Botín and Alonso. This can only be a good thing. The curse will be lifted.

    lol, so Vettel making mistakes and the team making mistakes is Alonso-Santander's fault?.


    Santander is not quitting, is just the end of their contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom Hearts View Post
    Santander is not quitting, is just the end of their contract.

    uh-huh


    Santander confirms a three-year deal with the Champions League as well as quitting Scuderia Ferrari the bank "will also conclude its corporate sponsorship agreements with F1 which have helped increase Santander’s brand recognition around the world over the last 11 years."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    uh-huh


    Santander confirms a three-year deal with the Champions League as well as quitting Scuderia Ferrari the bank "will also conclude its corporate sponsorship agreements with F1 which have helped increase Santander’s brand recognition around the world over the last 11 years."
    Is that quitting?, their contract ended, at least I understand quitting as in they leave when the contract is not over. But fair enough.

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    No more Alonso with Ferrari, they quit sponsoring as soon as they could. A good new sponsor to be written on the car would be ' Caciocavallo "! One of Italy's best cheeses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    No more Alonso with Ferrari, they quit sponsoring as soon as they could. A good new sponsor to be written on the car would be ' Caciocavallo "! One of Italy's best cheeses.
    interesting, but wouldn't that be a bit cheesy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    interesting, but wouldn't that be a bit cheesy?
    True but promoting booze and smoking at the time is worse for todays young fans. A little cheese on your pasta while watching a race won't hurt anybody .

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