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  1. #1111
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    Speaking of free money. I feel like the push from Liberty to remove our $100 million bonus is a massive negotiation behind closed doors.

    What I think has happened:

    1. Ferrari feels entitled to the $100mil but Liberty is not going to put up with it for long

    2. A deal could not be reached so it was agreed that Ferrari can bring back it's pseudo cigarette branding as long as it wasn't too obvious.

    3. Phillip Morris (who's leader just so happened to replace SM after his death) comes up with the genius way to do this by creating the concept that they are going to look to the future, to improve and find new and healthier ways to pass their products to consumers. They call this Mission Winnow. They use winnowing as an allusion to portray their challenge of switching from smoked cigarettes to something better for the people. The beauty is they can use their mission logo which resembles the marlboro logo we are all so familiar with. In a way, this is very similar to what Beer companies are doing, IE Heineken "When you drive never drink". It seems as long as these type of sponsors are pursuing advertising in a way that is promoting safety of their consumers then they are able to avoid specific bans.

    4. It all ties together perfectly. Liberty can take back the $100 million and distribute it however they need. Ferrari gets its multi million dollar sponsorship back (which also brings in additional money to the sport). And Phillip Morris is once again able to advertise its brand, pseudonimacly anyways.

    If this is somewhat true, then Sergio's "We will quit F1" was his way of saying to Liberty "If you take our $100million you must consider allowing our main sponsor to have their branding on our cars"

  2. #1112
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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariDave View Post
    Speaking of free money. I feel like the push from Liberty to remove our $100 million bonus is a massive negotiation behind closed doors.

    What I think has happened:

    1. Ferrari feels entitled to the $100mil but Liberty is not going to put up with it for long

    2. A deal could not be reached so it was agreed that Ferrari can bring back it's pseudo cigarette branding as long as it wasn't too obvious.

    3. Phillip Morris (who's leader just so happened to replace SM after his death) comes up with the genius way to do this by creating the concept that they are going to look to the future, to improve and find new and healthier ways to pass their products to consumers. They call this Mission Winnow. They use winnowing as an allusion to portray their challenge of switching from smoked cigarettes to something better for the people. The beauty is they can use their mission logo which resembles the marlboro logo we are all so familiar with. In a way, this is very similar to what Beer companies are doing, IE Heineken "When you drive never drink". It seems as long as these type of sponsors are pursuing advertising in a way that is promoting safety of their consumers then they are able to avoid specific bans.

    4. It all ties together perfectly. Liberty can take back the $100 million and distribute it however they need. Ferrari gets its multi million dollar sponsorship back (which also brings in additional money to the sport). And Phillip Morris is once again able to advertise its brand, pseudonimacly anyways.

    If this is somewhat true, then Sergio's "We will quit F1" was his way of saying to Liberty "If you take our $100million you must consider allowing our main sponsor to have their branding on our cars"
    SM WAS on the board of directors of Philip Morris. Mauricio Arrivebene is an ex-Philip Morris marketing director. And now you have Camilleri who is also from Philip Morris. So Philip Morris recruits get hired as Ferrari personnel or have some ties with Philip Morris when it involves Ferrari.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Has anyone else observed that every time we have a coming together/small accident with another car, it is always ours that comes out the most damaged? Kimi and Seb both colided with Verstappen in Japan, and Max came away with almost nothing except a 5 sec penalty. While both our drivers had damage on their cars and lost time. The same with Seb at Monza, he spun and not Hamilton and the examples keep coming. Do we have an easier to damage car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IulianFerrari View Post
    Has anyone else observed that every time we have a coming together/small accident with another car, it is always ours that comes out the most damaged? Kimi and Seb both colided with Verstappen in Japan, and Max came away with almost nothing except a 5 sec penalty. While both our drivers had damage on their cars and lost time. The same with Seb at Monza, he spun and not Hamilton and the examples keep coming. Do we have an easier to damage car?
    No I think Vettel doesn't know how to crash properly. That's why we had Kyvaat doing the testing. :p True, I thought of that when both our cars collided with Verstappen last Sunday. Either that RB is a tank or our car has butterfly wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IulianFerrari View Post
    Has anyone else observed that every time we have a coming together/small accident with another car, it is always ours that comes out the most damaged? Kimi and Seb both colided with Verstappen in Japan, and Max came away with almost nothing except a 5 sec penalty. While both our drivers had damage on their cars and lost time. The same with Seb at Monza, he spun and not Hamilton and the examples keep coming. Do we have an easier to damage car?
    China 2018 is also an example, if there is collision involving Ferrari then you can be sure that a Ferrari car will be damaged regardless of who is at fault. That's a rule to remember.

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    According to Motorsport Italy, Ferrari will debut their last aerodynamic package of the season in Austin. Despite knowing that the title battle is decided, Ferrari wants to show that the SF71H is capable of winning. They also will rely on the balance solution found in Suzuka
    hockenheim 2018 / China 2018 : Never forget how quick Ferrari can lose it all, be humble.
    Positivity doesn't win you championships, whining about people being negative makes you blind!
    lol ignore the bitter old cows ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinmay View Post
    China 2018 is also an example, if there is collision involving Ferrari then you can be sure that a Ferrari car will be damaged regardless of who is at fault. That's a rule to remember.
    its like the ferrari is made of rice paper to keep the weight down
    hockenheim 2018 / China 2018 : Never forget how quick Ferrari can lose it all, be humble.
    Positivity doesn't win you championships, whining about people being negative makes you blind!
    lol ignore the bitter old cows ;-)

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