Barcelona Testing 2018

**mardyrt** · 8th March 2018, 21:04

Originally Posted by Marco64

Agreed - you don't just suddenly find a second unless you have plenty in reserve.

Also, running a look down the long run times it looks like we were a tenth or two a lap faster on average compared to Verstappen. So how can anyone make out that we are behind Red Bull?

You have to look at the fuel and laps done. Max had a lot of laps before his first stop. Vettel had a SS stint, which was about 12 laps, then changed to Mediums. So, after his stop, he had similar pace to Mercedes, but, mercedes tiers were older, and still, even with new tiers, Seb could barely keep up with the Bottas, and Hamilton was even faster.
So, we have a lot of work to do. Also, Toto is such a fake, he says Red Bull is their closest rival, Red Bull is almost .4 or .5 behind, maybe more. If Ferrari cannot solve the car problem, then, its another Mercedes walkover. And this is not talking our of thin air, I came to this conclusion from looking at the data, lap times, race simulations, the car behavior. I hope, really hope Ferrari understands their car before Melbourne.

**Marco64** · 8th March 2018, 21:09

Originally Posted by Marco64

Agreed - you don't just suddenly find a second unless you have plenty in reserve.

Also, running a look down the long run times it looks like we were a tenth or two a lap faster on average compared to Verstappen. So how can anyone make out that we are behind Red Bull?

I've been doing a bit of number crunching on the long runs. Vettel did an extra two laps so I discounted the last two. Any lap times set in traffic I substituted with an average of the laps before and after.

Vettel average lap time (adjusted): 1m 21.96s

Verstappen average lap time (adjusted): 1m 22.24s

Bear in mind it could be argued I should have discounted the first two laps of Vettel's run as he presumably he would have had two more laps of fuel to start with but even as it is this run was 0.25s quicker per lap.

**SashAlex** · 8th March 2018, 21:16

OMG you suicidal freaks! Go shoot yourselves and don't post anymore cuz it's really frustrating...

We're doomed! OMG we're doomed! Girls...

**mardyrt** · 8th March 2018, 21:47

Originally Posted by SashAlex

OMG you suicidal freaks! Go shoot yourselves and don't post anymore cuz it's really frustrating...

We're doomed! OMG we're doomed! Girls...

We are fans, not freaks, we live and breathe Ferrari, and we bleed red, well, we all do, but especially us, its redderrerr, more red than normal.
Its not doom and gloom, we are just talking about data from the track, nothing else. We want to know, and analyze. So, we know what to expect.

**jgonzalesm6** · 8th March 2018, 21:48

Best times, tyre compounds colored box) & number of laps of ALL 7 DAYS.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXzN2F3XUAIAEtU.jpg

Day 7 total kilometers by team

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXy_GezXUAE5Cyb.jpg

Speed traps (for those that rely on this)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXynb-dW4AEAOmp.jpg

**Rob** · 8th March 2018, 21:59

Test Barcelona - Sebastian “in race mode”

On his last day of testing, Vettel completes a trouble-free GP simulation

Montmelò, 8 March –Winter testing has now ended for Seb Vettel. The next time he meets up with the SF71H will be in Melbourne, for free practice at the Australian Grand Prix. The final day of testing for the German champion was given over to a programme that included set-up and tyre evaluation with different fuel loads, the classic race weekend simulation that signs off winter testing for every driver. By the end of the day, Seb had completed no fewer than 188 laps (equivalent to over 875 kilometres,) in all conditions, including a false start test, with other cars on track. His best lap was a 1’17”182, set on the new Hypersoft tyres that are making their debut this season.

“The times on these test days don’t mean much,” repeated Sebastian. “The important thing is that the SF71H has proved to be very strong, allowing us to run all day without any significant problems. We are still working on some things for the first race and it’s not really possible to make any predictions based on the performance of the other teams, because everyone is running a different programme. However, I’m happy for the guys in the team.”

It was cloudy and chilly this morning at the Catalunya circuit and then a bit milder in the afternoon, with an average temperature of 15 degrees (28 track temperature) with a few gusts of wind. Tomorrow, Kimi Raikkonen will round off testing with a similar programme to his team-mate.

**Rob** · 8th March 2018, 22:08

**mizf1** · 8th March 2018, 22:13

Anyone please?

I think they gave Gary Anderson the day off because day by day he just confirms he does not know what he is talking about.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/feature...from-trackside

**Majki2111** · 8th March 2018, 22:34

Originally Posted by Vettel165

Oh come one guys, that german article (auto-motor und sport) is a big joke. And if they say that Red Bull is 0,3 behind Mercedes, Ferrari close behind RBR and only 0,1 in front of Haas...so Haas would only be 0,5-0,6 behind Mercedes, that would make Haas one of the biggest car developer of all time. Hahahha. But Haas is a copy of our car, we should be about 1 second infront of haas with ease like last year, soo that means we are 0,4 ahead of the mercedes.

Come Australia we will prevail, its our year.
Forza lets do this.

If Haas is copy of Ferrari's car, how should Ferrari be half asecond in front of Haas????????

**Aberracus** · 8th March 2018, 22:35

Originally Posted by Majki2111

If Haas is copy of Ferrari's car, how should Ferrari be half asecond in front of Haas????????

Omg ... really ?????!!!!!

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**DelMar** · 8th March 2018, 23:37

Originally Posted by FerrariF60

unless he CUT the corner....

If it was so, the lap time would have been deleted.

**sxviper698** · 9th March 2018, 04:03

Wow this is getting crazy. We had a good car last year! you think they scrapped it all and wiped the table clean and said lets start all over again? NO!! Everyone relax we are good. RB will push their PU's hard and take penalties which they seem to be good with but you can't predict when a connecting rod or piston fails it just goes pop. How do you Know Ferrari hasn't set the engine in a setting and ran their entire program in that setting with certain fuel loads and then calculate the difference. They do this everyday in the wind tunnel with small version of the car plus they do race sims on the dyno all day and night. Buy this time last year there was more rumors flying around. And there is always some truth to them but this year it's quiet that's why guys are getting worried. we will find out in 17 days or so depending where you live.

**killer** · 9th March 2018, 04:39

Originally Posted by mardyrt

You have to look at the fuel and laps done. Max had a lot of laps before his first stop. Vettel had a SS stint, which was about 12 laps, then changed to Mediums. So, after his stop, he had similar pace to Mercedes, but, mercedes tiers were older, and still, even with new tiers, Seb could barely keep up with the Bottas, and Hamilton was even faster.
So, we have a lot of work to do. Also, Toto is such a fake, he says Red Bull is their closest rival, Red Bull is almost .4 or .5 behind, maybe more. If Ferrari cannot solve the car problem, then, its another Mercedes walkover. And this is not talking our of thin air, I came to this conclusion from looking at the data, lap times, race simulations, the car behavior. I hope, really hope Ferrari understands their car before Melbourne.

Do we have information that says he was trying to chase Mercedes times?

**mwk360** · 9th March 2018, 05:29

I read Its according to the Gps data from renault and i guess mercedes that show Ferrari's issues is mainly cornering where sandbagging wouldn't affect it. All the problems have to do with time lost in corners. Lauda things Ferrari is lagging behind Merc and Rb too. That's probably how redbull jumped ahead as they have the smaller wheelbase and the best chassis according to Helmut most likely matching Mercs in corners.

**angeljr** · 9th March 2018, 06:02

I strongly believe we have a fast car. Either on par or ahead of Mercs and RB... Forget all the those experts who are trying to predict based on what they see on track. I also believe that going for a long wheelbase will give our guys more room for aero development which is crucial if we are going to challenge on fast circuits, so much to look for..Cheers!

**phsyklone** · 9th March 2018, 06:43

Seb vettels word about our car. Should we be worried ?

http://www.planetf1.com/news/vettel-...ng-conclusion/

**jgonzalesm6** · 9th March 2018, 06:53

Driver line-up March 9th

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX1II6hWkAAMqTb.jpg

#F1Testing Weather at 8.50h: ☀️
�� 87% (humidity)
�� 7.3C (track 22.2C⬆️⬆️)
�� NW 0.1 (wind)

**mwk360** · 9th March 2018, 07:10

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Driver line-up March 9th

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX1II6hWkAAMqTb.jpg

#F1Testing Weather at 8.50h: ☀️
💧 87% (humidity)
🌡 7.3C (track 22.2C⬆️⬆️)
🌬 NW 0.1 (wind)

hoping kimi doesn't sit in the garage most of the day, need to get a fix on the stuff seb said they not sure about yet and cornering

**jgonzalesm6** · 9th March 2018, 07:17

Originally Posted by mwk360

hoping kimi doesn't sit in the garage most of the day, need to get a fix on the stuff seb said they not sure about yet and cornering

depends on how he is feeling. Would like to see some monster laps, good times (sub 1:18's or sub 1:17's). He's out early so that's a good sign.

**mwk360** · 9th March 2018, 07:21

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

depends on how he is feeling. Would like to see some monster laps, good times (sub 1:18's or sub 1:17's). He's out early so that's a good sign.

**zike** · 9th March 2018, 07:27

Originally Posted by phsyklone

Seb vettels word about our car. Should we be worried ?

http://www.planetf1.com/news/vettel-...ng-conclusion/

yes

**Christopher** · 9th March 2018, 07:33

Originally Posted by phsyklone

Seb vettels word about our car. Should we be worried ?

http://www.planetf1.com/news/vettel-...ng-conclusion/

I think seb means it's only testing every team has a few minor issues especially with the lack of mileage in the first week don't make any conclusions

**JPBD** · 9th March 2018, 07:36

Originally Posted by phsyklone

Seb vettels word about our car. Should we be worried ?

http://www.planetf1.com/news/vettel-...ng-conclusion/

It does sound less confident than last year, and it seems to be supported in the media. I am a little concerned, but cautiously optimistic. He could have been saying “don’t draw the wrong conclusions” in the sense that it wasn’t a quali run it was just a test on HS tyres? Who knows. Only time will tell.

**jgonzalesm6** · 9th March 2018, 07:38

Laps.............and times

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX1V_1WVAAA-fYr.jpg

**killer** · 9th March 2018, 07:38

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

depends on how he is feeling. Would like to see some monster laps, good times (sub 1:18's or sub 1:17's). He's out early so that's a good sign.

Decent times in long runs are all I am hoping for. Kimi's lost a fair amount of testing time so I imagine he'll be working mostly on his race sims and car familiarity. Expect Merc to be wanting to top the time sheets today.

**killer** · 9th March 2018, 07:40

Originally Posted by phsyklone

Seb vettels word about our car. Should we be worried ?

http://www.planetf1.com/news/vettel-...ng-conclusion/

Reads like a standard testing statement to me.

**scudieros** · 9th March 2018, 07:41

Originally Posted by killer

Good times are all I am hoping for. Kimi's lost a fair amount of testing time so I imagine he'll be working mostly on his race sims and car familiarity. Expect Merc to be wanting to top the time sheets today.

He will be doing the same as Seb yesterday, so fast laps and a race sim.

**scudieros** · 9th March 2018, 07:42

The Haas this year is basically the Ferrari of last year with this year's engine and gearbox. It is doing rather well on the timesheets, which is a good omen for Ferrari.

**jgonzalesm6** · 9th March 2018, 07:43

Originally Posted by killer

Good times are all I am hoping for. Kimi's lost a fair amount of testing time so I imagine he'll be working mostly on his race sims and car familiarity. Expect Merc to be wanting to top the time sheets today.

That is what I'm expecting.....see what time they post....sub 1:16's????