Barcelona Testing 2018

**vetalo** · 9th March 2018, 14:15

Even Autosport deduced that Kimi was doing race stimulation meaning they are not too sure

Autosport
15:12 Raikkonen hits 130 laps in the Ferrari. We saw him come in for a live pitstop a moment ago, so we deduce the Finn is mid-race run right now.

**mhmalik** · 9th March 2018, 14:15

Originally Posted by mwk360

Kimi on mediums to compare with others if you want

Maybe setup issues... since Kimi missed so much running time he would be using Seb's setup and may not entirely be happy with it

**vetalo** · 9th March 2018, 14:16

Originally Posted by gump1480

It is what it is. No point in sandbagging on a race sim.

check my posting from autosport up

**arcabe** · 9th March 2018, 14:16

Originally Posted by vetalo

It does not matter do you think Ferrari are stupid, I saw some of Kimi run and he was not pushing at all

Agree with you on this...I would be bothered if that will be our race pace in Australia...I think Ferrari is hiding something.

**Christopher** · 9th March 2018, 14:25

Originally Posted by gump1480

As a ferrari fan we need to embrace for the worst season since 2014

Don't be ridiculous

**Christopher** · 9th March 2018, 14:28

RAI first HS stint:

out, 22.8, 20.6, 20.8, 21.5, 22.2, in

RAI second HS stint:

out, 19.4, 19.3, 19.4, 19.9, 20.0, in

**scudieros** · 9th March 2018, 14:29

Not to add to the doom and gloom, but Kimi did 4 pit stops on that race sim:

Supersoft
Medium
Medium
Hypersoft
Hypersoft

So they are clearly trying something different, also I don't know if they have the engine turned down or somthing because it doesn't make sense to do a race sim without using the full potential of the car?

**Christopher** · 9th March 2018, 14:31

Originally Posted by scudieros

Not to add to the doom and gloom, but Kimi did 4 pit stops on that race sim:

Supersoft
Medium
Medium
Hypersoft
Hypersoft

So they are clearly trying something different, also I don't know if they have the engine turned down or somthing because it doesn't make sense to do a race sim without using the full potential of the car?

obviously not a meaningful race sim perhaps they were practice for a late safety car or something with those hypersoft runs

**DoubleR** · 9th March 2018, 14:33

Originally Posted by gump1480

As a ferrari fan we need to embrace for the worst season since 2014

Great thinking. Keep it up.

**mwk360** · 9th March 2018, 14:36

1:18:9 bottas while on medium stint

**vetalo** · 9th March 2018, 14:39

Originally Posted by mwk360

1:18:9 bottas while on medium stint

Are you for real please go and support Mercedes

**Ferrarichamp** · 9th March 2018, 14:40

Originally Posted by vetalo

Are you for real please go and support Mercedes

**mardyrt** · 9th March 2018, 14:42

Originally Posted by vetalo

That is not the way Seb said it, why are you twisting Seb's word and taking it as Ferrari is in trouble. what do you expect Seb to say! tell the whole world the car is good. We have so many doomed and gloom people on this forum There should be a vote button on this forum

Its not doom and gloom and I just said Vettel was saying they need to understand the car better. Otherwise, he would say like last year, it looks good, but we dont know what the others are doing, so lets wait for Australia. Its not doom and gloom, its reality, we are slower, the sooner we accept it and find ways to make the car faster, the better we will be. Look at the data, study the data, also, look at videos, see how the car behaves, how they get on the throttle. Its not like its 100% accurate, but it gives a little bits of info. Also, when you compare race sims, they tell you a lot. You just cant compare stint to stint, you have to see when they pitted, and not just compare stints. Stints can be different fuel loads. When you start a race sim, you can get an idea how much fuel will be in the car give or take a few laps. Then you analyze. Each lap of fuel is worth .05sec. So, it gives you some idea. If you also look at previous few years, the pre season testing has given you a clue, and almost 90% of the time, it turned out to be true.

**mwk360** · 9th March 2018, 14:44

Originally Posted by vetalo

Are you for real please go and support Mercedes

You dont to discuss the Barcelona testing? I mean pretending mercedes dont exist wont help. Im posting for reference hopefully kimi can go faster lol

**mizf1** · 9th March 2018, 14:45

The tyres on the merc does not too good.

**Vettel165** · 9th March 2018, 14:46

Originally Posted by mizf1

The tyres on the merc does not too good.

Season is saved. Mercedes is doomed, 2013 incoming.

**mizf1** · 9th March 2018, 14:47

https://www.f1today.net/en/photos/f/...01830ef8a0.jpg

**mwk360** · 9th March 2018, 14:48

Renault have done so little laps what happened ?

**vetalo** · 9th March 2018, 14:49

Originally Posted by mardyrt

Its not doom and gloom and I just said Vettel was saying they need to understand the car better. Otherwise, he would say like last year, it looks good, but we dont know what the others are doing, so lets wait for Australia. Its not doom and gloom, its reality, we are slower, the sooner we accept it and find ways to make the car faster, the better we will be. Look at the data, study the data, also, look at videos, see how the car behaves, how they get on the throttle. Its not like its 100% accurate, but it gives a little bits of info. Also, when you compare race sims, they tell you a lot. You just cant compare stint to stint, you have to see when they pitted, and not just compare stints. Stints can be different fuel loads. When you start a race sim, you can get an idea how much fuel will be in the car give or take a few laps. Then you analyze. Each lap of fuel is worth .05sec. So, it gives you some idea. If you also look at previous few years, the pre season testing has given you a clue, and almost 90% of the time, it turned out to be true.

its just 14 more days so we will see, they can't just build a rubbish car after all the gain they have made I am so sure of this

**Ferrarichamp** · 9th March 2018, 14:49

Originally Posted by mizf1

https://www.f1today.net/en/photos/f/...01830ef8a0.jpg

thanks

**Christopher** · 9th March 2018, 14:50

Originally Posted by mwk360

Renault have done so little laps what happened ?

Gearbox problem

**mizf1** · 9th March 2018, 14:50

Originally Posted by mwk360

Renault have done so little laps what happened ?

They had an issue in the morning, can't remember what it was, probably gearbox

**mizf1** · 9th March 2018, 14:51

Originally Posted by mizf1

https://www.f1today.net/en/photos/f/...01830ef8a0.jpg

Also this is the state of the tyre on a relative cold Barcelona. Wait until they get to hot races

**Ferrarichamp** · 9th March 2018, 14:53

i said it the other day but renault is an anagram for neutral

**mardyrt** · 9th March 2018, 14:54

Originally Posted by vetalo

its just 14 more days so we will see, they can't just build a rubbish car after all the gain they have made I am so sure of this

I dont think its a rubbish car, I think they have not understood the car, its complicated with the long wheelbase.
You can go down the wrong path and no matter how good your last years car is, if you change a lot, then, it can go wrong. We will see. Its frustrating, but we will see.