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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettel165 View Post
    Omg and you call yourself a Ferrari fan, its a shame. Yeah Verstappen is so great, why couldnt he be in Ferrari (NOT), so he can crash every race, like he did this year. What are you smoking.

    Its Monaco, you cant overtake a front-running car here.
    Every race except his podium last race and 9th from the back here at Monaco. it's a shame Max isn't driving for Ferrari yet. Tires are where it's at. And BTW don't blame Brembo for Leclerc's brake trouble!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    Every race except his podium last race and 9th from the back here at Monaco. it's a shame Max isn't driving for Ferrari yet. Tires are where it's at. And BTW don't blame Brembo for Leclerc's brake trouble!

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    Ferrari should return serve and ask for mercedes to be retro fitted with a monitoring device also why is it just one way traffic do you think the merc is all above board fools who think this is the case the only difference is ferrari have no xmercedes employees with influence and dont forget the big mouth party spoiler mentality.

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    Pretty much confirmed Ocon waved Hamilton through.

    http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...s_team_orders/

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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo lalli View Post
    Ferrari should return serve and ask for mercedes to be retro fitted with a monitoring device also why is it just one way traffic do you think the merc is all above board fools who think this is the case the only difference is ferrari have no xmercedes employees with influence and dont forget the big mouth party spoiler mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    Pretty much confirmed Ocon waved Hamilton through.

    http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...s_team_orders/
    no doubt Sky called it a brilliant overtake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    Pretty much confirmed Ocon waved Hamilton through.

    http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...s_team_orders/
    Kimi did ok lap when LH pitted. Any other car but Ocon or Perez and we could have a chance.
    But I guess Merc was counting on fact that they don`t have to race against other "Merc driver".

    What a boring race. Even Mad Max with 3-4 sec faster car could not pass slower cars. Kimi haters of course keep telling how he should do this and that against 4 time WC in Merc car - in Monaco. What good he could have gained by destroying tires staying too close of LH? Nothing.
    Never been in Monaco, is there really anything they can do to this track? Or is this going to be like this year after year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    Pretty much confirmed Ocon waved Hamilton through.

    http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...s_team_orders/
    The thing is, this is very very controversial. Yet no one from the press is pickng this up. If Charles would have let VET through which would have given VET an advantage over HAM and if Leclerc would have said this in an inteview, Sky and other press would be all over it..


    It is illegal to do these kind of team orders in between team. It wasn't a team order because nothing was said, but he litterly says you shoudl ask the boss...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPA View Post
    Kimi did ok lap when LH pitted. Any other car but Ocon or Perez and we could have a chance.
    But I guess Merc was counting on fact that they don`t have to race against other "Merc driver".

    What a boring race. Even Mad Max with 3-4 sec faster car could not pass slower cars. Kimi haters of course keep telling how he should do this and that against 4 time WC in Merc car - in Monaco. What good he could have gained by destroying tires staying too close of LH? Nothing.
    Never been in Monaco, is there really anything they can do to this track? Or is this going to be like this year after year.
    If Ocon would have defendend, HAM would have lost time, probably not enough for Kimi do get the overcut but still.. HAM's strategy choice was stupid, unless they knew they didn't need to woory about ocon.. Why would you otherwise pit this eary and get in traffic if your pace is still decent...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Where did you get 320hp from????
    You don't remember what you have written yourself? From your message below:

    "No it's not.....50% is the ICE......25% is the MGU-H=60KW & 25% ia the MGU-K=60KW...both totaling 120kw = 160.92bhp or 80.46 ea.

    Also, DR was racing with 6 gears instead of 8."

    According to you :) MGU-H 60KW (80bhp) 25%, MGU-K 60KW (80bhp) 25%, and ICE is 50% (which makes it 160bhp according to your percentages). So your total engine power for RBR becomes 320bhp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelMar View Post
    You don't remember what you have written yourself? From your message below:

    "No it's not.....50% is the ICE......25% is the MGU-H=60KW & 25% ia the MGU-K=60KW...both totaling 120kw = 160.92bhp or 80.46 ea.

    Also, DR was racing with 6 gears instead of 8."

    According to you :) MGU-H 60KW (80bhp) 25%, MGU-K 60KW (80bhp) 25%, and ICE is 50% (which makes it 160bhp according to your percentages). So your total engine power for RBR becomes 320bhp.

    LOL, the ICE unit with turbo alone is good for 700hp!!!! I was wrong about the battery output on both the MGU-H & MGU-K combined which is NOW good for 320hp!!! Add both up and your in the 1000hp realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    Max is allowing Leclerc the honor of crash king, giving up his 1st place @ Monaco, so Leclerc could be at home. It was Red Bulls fault Max was out of top ten start. Too much sugar in the drink. Again form way way back, Max finished in the points!! Passing without incident at Monaco! He has to start all over again if he want's to return as crash king over Grosgeian an now Leclerc. Oh !Brakes caused it. Sounds like Leclerc is hanging out with Seb with an excuse for anytime not doing well.
    Brembo's off the wagon again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    Max is allowing Leclerc the honor of crash king, giving up his 1st place @ Monaco, so Leclerc could be at home. It was Red Bulls fault Max was out of top ten start. Too much sugar in the drink. Again form way way back, Max finished in the points!! Passing without incident at Monaco! He has to start all over again if he want's to return as crash king over Grosgeian an now Leclerc. Oh !Brakes caused it. Sounds like Leclerc is hanging out with Seb with an excuse for anytime not doing well.
    Aahaha, why are you trolling so much? We all saw the smoke coming from the brakes before the crash

    Quote Originally Posted by mwk360 View Post
    Why the hell are FIA going ADD more monitoring hardware only on ferrari in canada, this is going to hurt us man, this monitoring rubbish started at spain, and look what happened. monaco is easier to hide PU advantage but canada is mostly all PU, its so unfair, ferrari management have no voice, or balls anymore, they just keep taking it
    Why do you think more monitoring hardware is going to hurt us? You are suspicious we have an illegal car? I thought the FIA confirmed everything was checked and confirmed legal....

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    Sorry guys, anyone have a tyres photo after the race? Thanks In advance


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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    Pretty much confirmed Ocon waved Hamilton through.

    http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...s_team_orders/
    Was thinking about the same thing. This cost us a double podium. If it was someone else, like a Renault or a McLaren, Hamilton would have lost good seconds behind him or most likely, couldnt even pass or didnt try at all

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    It looks like Mercedes gave in to FIA's requests to lose the MGU-H.

    “We have given up on some of the stand points, we have accepted to lose the MGU-H,” said the Mercedes motorsport boss.

    “We think the [replacement] technology is a step backwards but in terms of achieving compromise for the benefit of the spectacle, the revs going up, the fuel limitations going – I think we will have a louder engine, we will not be so limited by fuel…
    https://www.planetf1.com/news/merced...ing-the-mgu-h/

    Interesting, by what I've heard it looks like Ferrari are in the same boat as well, so these negotiations for the 2021 engine regulations will go easier than previously expected.

    It looks like we will have a simpler F1 where technology is not that relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IulianFerrari View Post
    Was thinking about the same thing. This cost us a double podium. If it was someone else, like a Renault or a McLaren, Hamilton would have lost good seconds behind him or most likely, couldnt even pass or didnt try at all
    The worst thing is that if Ferrari has done this with Sauber or Haas, we would have never heard the end of it from SKY.
    Last edited by DelMar; 28th May 2018 at 15:38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelMar View Post
    The worst thing is that if Ferrari has done this with Sauber of Haas, we would have never heard the end of it from SKY.
    Maybe we need to start to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelMar View Post
    The worst thing is that if Ferrari has done this with Sauber or Haas, we would have never heard the end of it from SKY.
    You under the impression that a Ferrari engined team has never made it easy for Ferrari and harder for another team?

    It’s the same with the engine clarification, for some reason a lot of you seem to think
    1. It has never happened to another team
    2. Ferrari has never asked for clarification

    And on the sky thing, reading this forum, you think any media that isn’t kissing Ferrari’s bum is biased against them. How old are you lot

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    [QUOTE=Brembo;974772 I believe Max in Seb's car would have cut and beat RB to the win.[/QUOTE]

    Max in Seb's car may hit the wall again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_spook View Post
    You under the impression that a Ferrari engined team has never made it easy for Ferrari and harder for another team?

    It’s the same with the engine clarification, for some reason a lot of you seem to think
    1. It has never happened to another team
    2. Ferrari has never asked for clarification

    And on the sky thing, reading this forum, you think any media that isn’t kissing Ferrari’s bum is biased against them. How old are you lot

    Well you can name some times it has happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_spook View Post
    You under the impression that a Ferrari engined team has never made it easy for Ferrari and harder for another team?

    It’s the same with the engine clarification, for some reason a lot of you seem to think
    1. It has never happened to another team
    2. Ferrari has never asked for clarification

    And on the sky thing, reading this forum, you think any media that isn’t kissing Ferrari’s bum is biased against them. How old are you lot
    Sky have always been bias against Ferrari, and are more pro British drivers/team
    Of course, being a British TV station, they are geared towards British viewers hence their stance.

    But that doesn't make the bias untrue. It's very obvious if you listen to their commentary every race. Martin Brundle is probably the most neutral of them, but he is a former F1 driver. The rest are just idiots.


    Can't remember the last time Ferrari's request clarification resulted in monitoring hardware being put on our rival's car despite the stewards admittance that there was no cheating.

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    Crofty is the most impartial commentator you could ever wish for, honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    Sky have always been bias against Ferrari, and are more pro British drivers/team
    Of course, being a British TV station, they are geared towards British viewers hence their stance.

    But that doesn't make the bias untrue. It's very obvious if you listen to their commentary every race. Martin Brundle is probably the most neutral of them, but he is a former F1 driver. The rest are just idiots.


    Can't remember the last time Ferrari's request clarification resulted in monitoring hardware being put on our rival's car despite the stewards admittance that there was no cheating.

    1. The monitoring is unique as they can not measure it in the normal methods so other monitoring needed to be added.
    2. I can remember new tests devised to measure red bulls front wing flexing
    3. Seriously you lot are under the impression, Ferrari have never requested clarification on a opponent, seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    Sky have always been bias against Ferrari, and are more pro British drivers/team
    Of course, being a British TV station, they are geared towards British viewers hence their stance.
    .
    People hear what they want to hear. The only thing I saw with sky TV media, was red bull was usually asked a lot. Besides that the media follows any juicy story, to think they have it in for Ferrari is absurd, maybe not helped by Ferrari not being media friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwk360 View Post
    Another ferrari guy gone to another f1 team
    I think this was arranged between the teams, he joins Sauber on July 1st, without the 'standard' gardening leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    I thought the FIA confirmed everything was checked and confirmed legal....
    Yes it was, but Charlie W. said that Ferrari is going to use a new control software in Canada so they will monitor it. Seems logical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giallo 550 View Post
    Brembo's off the wagon again.
    Just because Pirelli named a tire after you and Leclerc is your favorite rookie dosen't take away the fact that Max is the future driver for Ferrari. Two races without a crash! Wake up!!

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    Toto not even denying it

    http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...ers_in_Monaco/

    We need to start using LeClerc to hold up our rivals while jumping out the way for the Ferrari's.

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    1. Go to Google (or probably any other internet search engine).
    2. Type in the words "Ferrari" "Tandem" "Battery".
    3. In about 120 seconds you will understand completely why Ferrari is having to add additional sensors and nobody else is.

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