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Thread: 2018 Austrian GP - Practices and Qualifying

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    The penalty is absolutely unnecessary, when you consider that Renault did not complain (they would have, had Carlos really lost time)
    So if there was no significant impact in this "blocking", does it really warrant a penalty?
    It's a BS decision.

    Do we even have such nonsense during the old 12-lap qualifying format?
    Feels like as we make the sport more complicated, we create even more complicated penalty system, which takes away from actual racing.

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    I agree with everything 512TR is saying here.

    If you're going to take out Lewis. You have to do it right though. His car is basically made out of Diamonds. I've been watching F1 since 1998, and I've never seen anyone luckier than him. I've seen him slam his car into the wall at Monaco, and somehow no damage to the actual wheel or suspension and he goes on to win the race.

    It's about time something happens to him. Kimi is on faster tyres, on the clean side, and Crashtappen is right behind. It's time he doesn't get through the first corner unscathed.

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    In Canada, SKY made a big deal about Bottas showing some "elbows" at the start and not letting Verstappen go by. I wonder if they still want Bottas to show those "elbows" at the start of this race...

    If Bottas doesn't finish ahead of Gangsta Boy at the race, he is a complete joke.

    If Bottas can finish in front of Gangsta Boy, then have Vettel finish no more than 1 position behind Gangsta Boy, you'll lose no more than 3 points. I'll take it.

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    The state of some people.

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    Bull fia =fools in automobiles enough said lets go racing and get good points a long way to go in this season many twists and turns to come and of course more bull from fia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    So you wouldn't have any problem if Mercedes orders Bottas to cause a collision with Vettel?
    They already did in France, didn't quite work for them so they started crying...

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    Taking other cars out is part of racing, Senna did it. And he is worshipped like a god.

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    If there is ever a time for Kimi Raikkonen to come alive, it's at the start of this weekend's grand prix.


    Disappointed Since 2010

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    Ferrari should now start focusing on 2019. 3 tenths gap in Austria means 7-8 tenths gap in Silverstone, this season cannot be recovered. What Ferrari is lacking is a Mercedes esque qualifying mode + poor aero performance in fast sweeping corners.

    If Ferrari can be on pole in Melbourne, only then they can be considered title contenders. If your car is slow in Melbourne, it will be slow in majority of other tracks. I hope engine chief is working on some sort of qualifying mode which should allow Vettel to fight Mercedes drivers. This time around in Austria, out of the top 10 speed trap, 6 cars were Mercedes powered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScuderiaBuckeye View Post
    It's taken the uber-Capitalists far less time to destroy America and we could use some of that socialism now send it our way please.
    As someone who had family members killed by the National Socialists, then had to live under the oppressive rule of other Socialists in the Soviet Union, escaped to the free world and now is able to exercise his Second Amendment Right in excess...

    Try bringing socialism to America. I dare you. I double dare you.

    Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled program. Good luck to our boys.

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    According to me, 2nd spec from Ferrari is not about more power to deliver. It did give a lot improvement in race pace, which means it’s efficiency.

    Win will be a lucky for vettel tmrw. But I don’t see him higher than 3rd or 4th. Mad max is always crazy, as does Grosjean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    As someone who had family members killed by the National Socialists, then had to live under the oppressive rule of other Socialists in the Soviet Union, escaped to the free world and now is able to exercise his Second Amendment Right in excess...

    Try bringing socialism to America. I dare you. I double dare you.
    You making threats, pal?

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    I really don't get how stewards hand out penalties. I mean do they have a different set of criteria for Ferrari and the rest of the teams?

    Wasn't it just last race when Seb had to abort his Q2 qualifying run because around 5 cars were Sunday driving on the racing line? Were any reprimands or grid penalties handed out to these drivers? Nope. Yet here we are in Austria when Vettel received a 3 place grid penalty for impeding Sainz.

    Didn't Bottas do to Kimi in Baku last year, what Seb did to Bottas in France? Did Bottas get a 5 second penalty? Nope. Yet Vettel did.

    Don't get me wrong. I am all for penalties if only they give them out fairly, no matter who is involved. I can give other examples when a certain driver from Merc and a certain driver from Red Bull were not handed out penalties.

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    I hope Kimi overtakes a car at a race start this year, he has only lost positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_spook View Post


    The state of some people.
    It's pure comedy. They are so much desperate that they want Rai to deliberately crash into Ham.

    Ok fine. But don't come here and cry like a ***** if someone else crashes into Seb deliberately.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nico_G View Post
    They already did in France, didn't quite work for them so they started crying...
    It was Seb's fault and he apologised to Bottas for the crash.

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    You do the crime you take the punishment. Regardless of the stewards’ decision you can’t escape the fact that Vettel has made another major cockup. He doesn’t deserve the title. He is no Schumacher that’s an insult to the great man. You can all keep crying about Hamilton but when are you gonna start looking at Vettel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 512 TR View Post
    Advice to Kimi Räikkönen from a Ferrari supporter if you read this forum. If you don't get a specific advice from MA for the start then go for Lewis's front suspension. That's the easiest part to break on an F1 car and take it out of the race. You're going to be on the outside going into T1. Aim for Lewis' left front as he turns in. Aim somewhere between the left front tyre and the bargeboard and carry through the momentum from the slingshot effect on the outside. Chances are someone else will hit him as well on the inside as he spins. Maybe Grosjean or Mad Max. So you will not be the only one to blame. Make sure though the damage is permanent. This BS has to end.
    Lol

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    Solution get out of f1 and save a mountain of $ focus on rd cars that will be miles ahead of all keeping ferrari as unique as it is tell the f i a the owners of f1 and the world automobile assocition to shove it where the sun does not shine and let mercedes race mercdes and any other brit that wants to join this circus basically fi is morally bankrupt bankrupt i say .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondilad View Post
    I hope Kimi overtakes a car at a race start this year, he has only lost positions.
    It's not even funny anymore. I can't remember the stat but it's last 1 and a half seasons since Kimi made a place at the start of a race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    It's not even funny anymore. I can't remember the stat but it's last 1 and a half seasons since Kimi made a place at the start of a race.
    Yup... but today he has good tyres to start (more grip) n starting on clean side. There’s no better chance than this one.
    Actually I expected he will start 5th or 6th to be honest. But 3rd is a gift for him, he needs to make it count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    It's not even funny anymore. I can't remember the stat but it's last 1 and a half seasons since Kimi made a place at the start of a race.
    Well if he decideds to do so, I hope it's today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    It's pure comedy. They are so much desperate that they want Rai to deliberately crash into Ham.

    Ok fine. But don't come here and cry like a ***** if someone else crashes into Seb deliberately.



    It was Seb's fault and he apologised to Bottas for the crash.
    Rather than comedy I can say it as sense of frustration & disappointment. We as a Ferrari fans, expect everything to be on our side. Such was the Ferrari history & it’s dominance in the sport. Thanks to schumi & it’s team working hard to get back there.
    But what I see on other side is, ferrari being robbed & treated unwell in this sport especially in the current era on few occasions. Of course they do got away from baku 2017 incident but it’s driver at point not the team.
    Ferrari being silent is weakening its position in F1. Look at brawn, todt era it’s their say that use define the things & did bring lot of dominance. Currently mercs wolf-Lauda-Pirelli are running the show similar to our era.

    Ferrari need that kind of a thing. Who can raise voice against this dominance & set the things back in their favour.
    MA, binnotto n it’s team are doing good job there’s nothing to point. But they are very soft spoken persons, rather being ruthless. They are not giving any directives to FIA. If we don’t sort out this, I don’t see ferrari being dominant against these anti-Ferrari fools. It looks to me like seeing again ferrari-Alonso era, where he missed the titles so close.

    It’s just my opinion, don’t get me wrong. Hope ferrari turn it’s tables & have a great 2nd half.

    Also on other note, ferrari didn’t introduce any big aero upgrade it’s the same car. So there should be something in pipeline, that should give good speed to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecrasher View Post
    You do the crime you take the punishment. Regardless of the stewards’ decision you can’t escape the fact that Vettel has made another major cockup. He doesn’t deserve the title. He is no Schumacher that’s an insult to the great man. You can all keep crying about Hamilton but when are you gonna start looking at Vettel?
    Vettel can make mistakes but we expect the stewards to be fair and consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecrasher View Post
    You do the crime you take the punishment. Regardless of the stewards’ decision you can’t escape the fact that Vettel has made another major cockup. He doesn’t deserve the title. He is no Schumacher that’s an insult to the great man. You can all keep crying about Hamilton but when are you gonna start looking at Vettel?
    Hello,

    Why you aint going to celebrate Hamilton's 5th title handled by FIA in Mercedes forums?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    It's not even funny anymore. I can't remember the stat but it's last 1 and a half seasons since Kimi made a place at the start of a race.
    But Kimi does podiums ok, and Seb watches from behind? Now that's funny! Who's on first??

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    I am becoming less and less hyped about new F1 season... I am becoming numb... this, I am deliberately not using word racing, is looking more and more like staged american wrestling... I don't know... sorry... this is becoming stupid... life is too short for waisting it on stupid things... I appologize for taking your time to read this...
    Good luck to Ferrari today... but it is hard to fight with hands tied behing back...

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    If Alonso is still around we wouldn't have all these talks.

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    What was our top speed compared to the mercs

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    Mystic Meg says: I will be amazed if (1) RAI doesn't lose 2/ 3 places by the end of Lap 1.. (2) HAM doesn't pass BOT before end of same (3) Mad Max or GRO fails to 'cause a collision' on Lap 1..
    Trying to be less angry..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinmay View Post
    Ferrari should now start focusing on 2019. 3 tenths gap in Austria means 7-8 tenths gap in Silverstone, this season cannot be recovered. What Ferrari is lacking is a Mercedes esque qualifying mode + poor aero performance in fast sweeping corners.

    If Ferrari can be on pole in Melbourne, only then they can be considered title contenders. If your car is slow in Melbourne, it will be slow in majority of other tracks. I hope engine chief is working on some sort of qualifying mode which should allow Vettel to fight Mercedes drivers. This time around in Austria, out of the top 10 speed trap, 6 cars were Mercedes powered.
    Please stop your predictions on gaps during future races. You are spoiling my 'pre-fun'

    It must have been a crime for you this season so far seeing Ferrari taking 4 poles and 3 victories even though they didn't take the pole in Australia.

    Oh sorry, that was all due to luck..my bad

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