2018 German GP : RACE

**jgonzalesm6** · 22nd July 2018, 15:47

Originally Posted by Greig

If it was a free engine and gearbox change then why would they not?

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Why would they at this stage of the season? Sebs engine and gearbox still has a few races to go not to mention there was no damage to it in this German GP.

**da_one** · 22nd July 2018, 15:48

Originally Posted by doublesixes

Told you to shut up. Now you’re dismissed

Go to the Lewis is God forum and show your love for him there.

**nani_s23** · 22nd July 2018, 15:50

Originally Posted by stefa

Haw's the WDC and CWC score tables look now?

17 pts diff for WDC that’s all I know as of now.

**Greig** · 22nd July 2018, 15:50

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Thats in the rules.

Could you quote the rule please?

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**nani_s23** · 22nd July 2018, 15:51

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Why would they at this stage of the season? Sebs engine and gearbox still has a few races to go not to mention there was no damage to it in this German GP.

Yup...! Also there are power tracks coming up spa & Monza. Need fresh engine there to unleash power..!!

**Greig** · 22nd July 2018, 15:51

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Why would they at this stage of the season? Sebs engine and gearbox still has a few races to go not to mention there was no damage to it in this German GP.

Because less mileage and fresher engines are better than old engines.

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**nani_s23** · 22nd July 2018, 15:52

For me wts bothering is all mid field cars r giving free pass to ham ... 2nd race in a row

**nani_s23** · 22nd July 2018, 15:53

Originally Posted by Greig

Because less mileage and fresher engines are better than old engines.

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For less power tracks Hungary, Singapore no need of fresh engine..!!

**Rob** · 22nd July 2018, 15:53

Originally Posted by nani_s23

For me wts bothering is all mid field cars r giving free pass to ham ... 2nd race in a row

whats the point in trying to fight or hold off a waaaay faster car?

**REDARMYSOJA** · 22nd July 2018, 15:53

I've always been a Vettel fan, from his early BMW days, but he makes too many mistakes. There's a guy out there who's faster than anyone, hardly ever makes mistakes and is looking for a new ride. I think you all know who I mean. Ferrari needs to get him back.

**Otakukim** · 22nd July 2018, 15:54

Originally Posted by REDARMYSOJA

I've always been a Vettel fan, from his early BMW days, but he makes too many mistakes. There's a guy out there who's faster than anyone, hardly ever makes mistakes and is looking for a new ride. I think you all know who I mean. Ferrari needs to get him back.

The ferrari and alonso boat sailed years ago.

**Greig** · 22nd July 2018, 15:54

Originally Posted by nani_s23

For less power tracks Hungary, Singapore no need of fresh engine..!!

If we can change engine free then they will. But dont think we can anyway.

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**Greig** · 22nd July 2018, 15:55

Originally Posted by nani_s23

For me wts bothering is all mid field cars r giving free pass to ham ... 2nd race in a row

Tbh it was the same for Seb coming through in France.

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**nani_s23** · 22nd July 2018, 15:58

Originally Posted by Greig

Tbh it was the same for Seb coming through in France.

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Yup... but top6 cars have much buffer so that they can overcome such things..!!

**jgonzalesm6** · 22nd July 2018, 15:58

Originally Posted by Greig

Could you quote the rule please?

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Breach Appendix L Chapter IV Article 4 of the FIA International Sporting Guide.

Kimi got:

1) a 5 sec. timed penalty

2) 2 penalty pts awarded and

3) 5 pt total for a 12 month period

anything else Greig??

**Rob** · 22nd July 2018, 15:59

Originally Posted by REDARMYSOJA

I've always been a Vettel fan, from his early BMW days, but he makes too many mistakes. There's a guy out there who's faster than anyone, hardly ever makes mistakes and is looking for a new ride. I think you all know who I mean. Ferrari needs to get him back.

in a front running team, pushing for WDC, he way too political, way to much baggage too.

**REDARMYSOJA** · 22nd July 2018, 15:59

Originally Posted by Otakukim

The ferrari and alonso boat sailed years ago.

They said that about Kimi once.

**Greig** · 22nd July 2018, 16:00

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Breach Appendix L Chapter IV Article 4 of the FIA International Sporting Guide.

Kimi got:

1) a 5 sec. timed penalty

2) 2 penalty pts awarded and

3) 5 pt total for a 12 month period

anything else Greig??

Yes can you quote the rule from the 2018 rules please.

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**DelMar** · 22nd July 2018, 16:00

This was Kimi's penalty:

Dit4M1IW0AATcUG.jpg

**Christopher** · 22nd July 2018, 16:01

Originally Posted by REDARMYSOJA

I've always been a Vettel fan, from his early BMW days, but he makes too many mistakes. There's a guy out there who's faster than anyone, hardly ever makes mistakes and is looking for a new ride. I think you all know who I mean. Ferrari needs to get him back.

Would rather have Riccardo

**nani_s23** · 22nd July 2018, 16:01

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Breach Appendix L Chapter IV Article 4 of the FIA International Sporting Guide.

Kimi got:

1) a 5 sec. timed penalty

2) 2 penalty pts awarded and

3) 5 pt total for a 12 month period

anything else Greig??

This is horrible, next race if Ferrari do similar to what Lewis did then I’m sure they will drop a penalty to Ferrari.

**zike** · 22nd July 2018, 16:01

17 points is nothing to be worried about, as well as the 25 points lead we would have if Seb won

**prancing horse** · 22nd July 2018, 16:01

Red bull are falling off the pace more so than before.
Wonder if they are already focused on 2019.

**nani_s23** · 22nd July 2018, 16:02

Originally Posted by Greig

Yes can you quote the rule from the 2018 rules please.

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Rules book for penalties is the same for the last of couple of yrs. not for mercs though.

**arno** · 22nd July 2018, 16:02

What an end of a promising weekend..
I am very sad but I cannot accuse Vettel. It was such an unfortunate day. It looks like the pole sitter has a tough time this year :\
I was concerned because when he couldn't easily pass Kimi and the team obviously didn't know how to handle the situation. I agree that it cost us with Hamilton having the fresh US much appropriate for the partial rainy conditions (gaining 1.5 - 2 secs/lap on vet/kimi).
Hamilton really drove perfect today, I am sad to say it, but he matched Kimi with 20 laps older softs (and this won him the race).

Lets not forget the comfort Ham has at Mercedes (he gets everything he wants, including a bodyguard teammate) and the protection he gets from FIA, which is pretty obvious.
Vettel does not have this luxury, extra pressure on him, but I's sure he will strike back.

**Otakukim** · 22nd July 2018, 16:02

Originally Posted by REDARMYSOJA

They said that about Kimi once.

Alonso is a better driver than seb. No denying that but do you think the ferrari team now will be the same had it been alonso and not seb? Current ferrari team has grown with seb and its built around him

**Greig** · 22nd July 2018, 16:03

Originally Posted by nani_s23

Rules book for penalties is the same for the last of couple of yrs. not for mercs though.

Can you quote it please from FIA website?

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**chinmay** · 22nd July 2018, 16:05

Originally Posted by Christopher

Would rather have Riccardo

Ricciardo can't even beat his own teammate and you think he is better than Vettel. LOL, even Marko and Horner have no confidence in him.

**Christopher** · 22nd July 2018, 16:05

Originally Posted by REDARMYSOJA

They said that about Kimi once.

The diffrence is that Ferrari told Kimi to leave whereas Alonso left Ferrari

**jgonzalesm6** · 22nd July 2018, 16:06

Originally Posted by Greig

Yes can you quote the rule from the 2018 rules please.

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Originally Posted by DelMar

This was Kimi's penalty:

Dit4M1IW0AATcUG.jpg

There ya go!!!! It states it right there!!

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