2018 German GP : RACE

**Christopher** · 22nd July 2018, 17:05

What a farce how hard is it to have clear rules way to many grey areas in the rules F1 should be about racing not the stewards

**KimiBot** · 22nd July 2018, 17:06

**wisepie** · 22nd July 2018, 17:08

We're all gutted by what appeared to be a simple error by Seb with costly results for the WDC/WCC standings, but the way the strategies were panning out, HAM and BOT may well have got ahead of us anyway once the rain started falling. The biggest disaster is Seb not getting any points at all, and like I said in the quali thread, HAM's quali dramas which some people were relishing did come back to bite us. How HAM manages never to have a DNF is scary, but this time Seb dropped the ball himself, irrespective of the team's strategy calls. Let's move on and hope that Hungary can redress the balance. Well done for another podium, Kimi.

**IulianFerrari** · 22nd July 2018, 17:08

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Maybe thats why Bottas fell far behind Lewis, Mercedes Camp knowing a timed penalty was coming.

Of course it is. Wondering why they didnt tell Bottas to go 5 sec down though...

**KimiBot** · 22nd July 2018, 17:10

Originally Posted by KimiBot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60nZchki-s

lol. it did not take long

**Greig** · 22nd July 2018, 17:11

Originally Posted by IulianFerrari

Of course it is. Wondering why they didnt tell Bottas to go 5 sec down though...

If they knew it was coming they would have to radio both drivers....and all that is public.

**Ferrarichamp** · 22nd July 2018, 17:11

they will probably give Ham a +4.534 sec penalty.

**KimiBot** · 22nd July 2018, 17:13

5 s

**KimiBot** · 22nd July 2018, 17:15

so only 10 points lead

**Ferrarichamp** · 22nd July 2018, 17:16

so Bottas wins his first race in 2018

**stefa** · 22nd July 2018, 17:25

Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp

so Bottas wins his first race in 2018

?!

**nani_s23** · 22nd July 2018, 17:25

Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp

they will probably give Ham a +4.534 sec penalty.

**Ferrarichamp** · 22nd July 2018, 17:25

Originally Posted by stefa

?!

if Ham gets 5s

**stefa** · 22nd July 2018, 17:27

Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp

if Ham gets 5s

Yeah, but that is just IF, and we know it won't! Any way standing is:

POS	DRIVER	NATIONALITY	CAR	PTS
1	Lewis Hamilton	GBR	MERCEDES	188
2	Sebastian Vettel	GER	FERRARI	171
3	Kimi Räikkönen	FIN	FERRARI	131
4	Valtteri Bottas	FIN	MERCEDES	122
5	Daniel Ricciardo	AUS	RED BULL RACING TAG HEUER	106
6	Max Verstappen	NED	RED BULL RACING TAG HEUER	105
7	Nico Hulkenberg	GER	RENAULT	52
8	Fernando Alonso	ESP	MCLAREN RENAULT	40
9	Kevin Magnussen	DEN	HAAS FERRARI	39
10	Sergio Perez	MEX	FORCE INDIA MERCEDES	30
11	Esteban Ocon	FRA	FORCE INDIA MERCEDES	29
12	Carlos Sainz	ESP	RENAULT	28
13	Romain Grosjean	FRA	HAAS FERRARI	20
14	Pierre Gasly	FRA	SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA	18
15	Charles Leclerc	MON	SAUBER FERRARI	13
16	Stoffel Vandoorne	BEL	MCLAREN RENAULT	8
17	Marcus Ericsson	SWE	SAUBER FERRARI	5
18	Lance Stroll	CAN	WILLIAMS MERCEDES	4
19	Brendon Hartley	NZL	SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA	2
20	Sergey Sirotkin	RUS	WILLIAMS MERCEDES	0

**KimiBot** · 22nd July 2018, 17:27

Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp

if Ham gets 5s

they gave him 5 sec penalty

**stefa** · 22nd July 2018, 17:28

POS	TEAM	PTS
1	MERCEDES	310
2	FERRARI	302

**Otakukim** · 22nd July 2018, 17:29

They gave him penalty??? Yes damage limitation

**stefa** · 22nd July 2018, 17:29

Originally Posted by KimiBot

they gave him 5 sec penalty

Can you share that article?

**Christopher** · 22nd July 2018, 17:29

Originally Posted by KimiBot

they gave him 5 sec penalty

They haven't given him any penalty yet

**jgonzalesm6** · 22nd July 2018, 17:30

No penalty towards the teflon diva. You can't make this stuff up. Alot of us knew this already. Unbelievable!!!

**Otakukim** · 22nd July 2018, 17:30

There is no penalty

**KimiBot** · 22nd July 2018, 17:31

Originally Posted by Christopher

They haven't given him any penalty yet

yeah, it was in finnish media that Bottas won and Ham 5sec penalty,now they are writing that Hamster did get only warning

**KimiBot** · 22nd July 2018, 17:32

He can do whatever he wants, no penalties

**Michal2_F1** · 22nd July 2018, 17:34

It's a circus guys. Unbelievable.

**nani_s23** · 22nd July 2018, 17:36

Don’t worry guys, in Hungary. Lewis will get into trouble.

**jgonzalesm6** · 22nd July 2018, 17:37

Lewis response" It's not going to be taken away from me."

**Christopher** · 22nd July 2018, 17:38

So the FIA say Lewis admitted the mistake and their was confuson within the tram it didn't effect anyone yet Seb did all of these in Austria and still got a penalty nice double standards FIA

**sreekant** · 22nd July 2018, 17:38

Guys, relax...i believe that we have a good car, and we can pull this off...of course weird that ham gets a velvet stick for his demeanour, but victory tastes sweet against these odds! our car is awesome this year!