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    After a fantastic quali and looking forward to a good race, we threw it away again...although i'm not a fan of the merc antics played out, because this is racing and we want drivers to race each other and win...this is the ethos that makes racing intresting for the audience...we may need to change this core and design our team with wingmen, well! It's the fans of this sport who become dummies of this agenda and showmanship...racing history from the past era was grit and the best man wins...no one helps coz they are racers to the bone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giallo 550 View Post
    HOW ABOUT SOME SUPPORT FOR OUR DRIVERS AND BELOVED TEAM??? YOU BUNCH ARE WORSE THAN HAMILTON WHEN HE DOESN’T WIN!
    Well we support them which is why we here on this forum and watching the race.
    But you can't delude yourself and say the team is good.
    Our vehicle engineering and design team are great.
    But our race management and track team are not so great when they keep putting our lead driver at a disadvantage
    "I really don't know what happened" - Lewis Hamilton (frequently)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    +++++11111
    No wonder we can not perform as a team, With fans like this, so bad!
    Teams and fans stand together, But this right here is why we will never win. with the brits its never hams fault, With us if things are bad we crap all over our most valuable resource. Pathetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelMar View Post
    He gets his backside handed to him by Verstappen week in, week out...
    Of course Max would be the next Ferrari Champion if that were ever to happen. He’s pretty much dug in at RB like an Alabama tick, sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    ladyluck is on hamiltons side, commentators suprised it was not Hamilton who didn't spin and it was Vettel.

    It would have been a real game chamger if Vettel stayed 2nd and it was Hamilton who spun
    Then it would give Vettel a penalty since he caused the collision, and Hamilton the moral high ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    ladyluck is on hamiltons side, commentators suprised it was not Hamilton who didn't spin and it was Vettel.

    It would have been a real game chamger if Vettel stayed 2nd and it was Hamilton who spun
    amazing isn't it? two cars make contact, one of them is damaged and leaves the track, but of course it's not Ham.

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    In some strange corners of the internet there are some saying that the FIA assisted Ferrari because Vettel should've been DSQ because of the first lap incident. No prises for guessing which team they support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giallo 550 View Post
    HOW ABOUT SOME SUPPORT FOR OUR DRIVERS AND BELOVED TEAM??? YOU BUNCH ARE WORSE THAN HAMILTON WHEN HE DOESN’T WIN!
    And what about the team and the drivers supporting them selfese? Have you thought about that or is to hard for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    Lets see what MA has to say.

    - Keep our feet on the ground
    - Take each race like a round of boxing ( we got knocked out this round)
    he tends to sound more and more like Domenicali.....ha, ha...
    So 2023 started off bad, but managed to claw back some lap time come end of the year. Lets hope SF24 will give us tifosi something to smile about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Actually .... it’s not his fault. Team should have intervened & let him know if vettel is back of you or side let him through n block ham. But this didn’t happen. Look at mercs bottas helped ham a lot.
    True, the team told him to drive fast and get closer. Great drive by Kimi....

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    I quit this is too painful for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by sreekant View Post
    After a fantastic quali and looking forward to a good race, we threw it away again...although i'm not a fan of the merc antics played out, because this is racing and we want drivers to race each other and win...this is the ethos that makes racing intresting for the audience...we may need to change this core and design our team with wingmen, well! It's the fans of this sport who become dummies of this agenda and showmanship...racing history from the past era was grit and the best man wins...no one helps coz they are racers to the bone!
    I just love racing, and I think every driver does that too, they want to win with their own merit, without any help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    amazing isn't it? two cars make contact, one of them is damaged and leaves the track, but of course it's not Ham.


    The Devil looks after his own...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    amazing isn't it? two cars make contact, one of them is damaged and leaves the track, but of course it's not Ham.
    He could've been up against an F1 stock car and still come out of it unscathed, that's how lucky he is.

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    All i hope for is too see team orders now. only chance of getting anywhere near the wdc and wcc. Drivers and team made bad decisions today
    hockenheim 2018 / China 2018 : Never forget how quick Ferrari can lose it all, be humble.
    Positivity doesn't win you championships, whining about people being negative makes you blind!
    lol ignore the bitter old cows ;-)

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    That's what enzo ferrari did...we want true racers and not wingmen...this is fooling the audience, it's run like an agency with strategies!

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    2016 - Ferrari were operationally sound
    2018 - Too many driver & operational mistakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by sreekant View Post
    After a fantastic quali and looking forward to a good race, we threw it away again...although i'm not a fan of the merc antics played out, because this is racing and we want drivers to race each other and win...this is the ethos that makes racing intresting for the audience...we may need to change this core and design our team with wingmen, well! It's the fans of this sport who become dummies of this agenda and showmanship...racing history from the past era was grit and the best man wins...no one helps coz they are racers to the bone!
    Well if we want Kimi to help Seb's cause, then it's only fair to accept Merc using Bottas as Lewis' last line of defense.

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    We should have been 1st and 3rd out of the first lap. Kimi kept Lewis around 40 laps behind him. Plenty of time for Seb to regain position. Seb made that mistake, it happens. Maybe Ferrari would have introduced team orders during the race, but we will never know cause someone didn't get through the 1st lap. Seb has to take this as a learning lesson, keep his head down. 30 points in 7 races is achievable and so are the 25 in the WCC. Still a long way to go, I believe in our team.

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    seb thinks he still has a chance.....NOT if he keeps his hot head like he does now in races
    So 2023 started off bad, but managed to claw back some lap time come end of the year. Lets hope SF24 will give us tifosi something to smile about.

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    Scuderia = Pagliacci

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    Quote Originally Posted by sreekant View Post
    That's what enzo ferrari did...we want true racers and not wingmen...this is fooling the audience, it's run like an agency with strategies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwk360 View Post
    All i hope for is too see team orders now. only chance of getting anywhere near the wdc and wcc. Drivers and team made bad decisions today
    Too late now.
    As a matter fact Kimi is now closer to Seb than he was before the race.
    So be very silly if the do it know and if the do it shows how weak they are at making bold and decisive decisions
    "I really don't know what happened" - Lewis Hamilton (frequently)

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    Quote Originally Posted by da_one View Post
    Then it would give Vettel a penalty since he caused the collision, and Hamilton the moral high ground.


    Possibly, Even if Seb for a 10 sec penaltyhe would have been ahead of Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    seb thinks he still has a chance.....NOT if he keeps his hot head like he does now in races
    Yes he should rathe be a quitter / looser like you, just give up, don't fight to the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    2016 - Ferrari were operationally sound
    2018 - Too many driver & operational mistakes
    Ferrari haven't been operationally sound since 2007

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    I work in an ad agency...racing is hot blooded, but now its a corporate model

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    The gap is 12 points in old system with 70 to go. Very hard to gain. We need a Singapore Seb victory and Hamilton fourth place to be back in the fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    seb thinks he still has a chance.....NOT if he keeps his hot head like he does now in races
    do you think kimi will help seb the rest of the GPs if they tell him he is getting the boot? thats the only reason i could see why he blocked seb instead of ham. might be ferrari vs ferrari till the end of the year
    hockenheim 2018 / China 2018 : Never forget how quick Ferrari can lose it all, be humble.
    Positivity doesn't win you championships, whining about people being negative makes you blind!
    lol ignore the bitter old cows ;-)

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    7 races to go, no worries

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