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Thread: Mick Schumacher, why isn’t he in Formula One yet?

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    Standings:

    Shwartzman 134
    llott 134
    Schumacher 131
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 104
    Zhou 102
    Mazepin 101
    Deletraz 85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesky View Post
    Standings:

    Shwartzman 136
    llott 134
    Schumacher 131
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 104
    Zhou 102
    Mazepin 101,
    Deletraz 85.
    Hopefully a repeat of the F3 season with his late charge to take the title!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Schumiklub View Post
    14 years :) Michael won in 2006.


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    Remember it well! The race where at the end LdM handed him and the press a bit of paper telling him he's not wanted for next year (sacked).

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    Correction, I had Shwartzmans points wrong:

    Standings:

    Shwartzman 134
    llott 134
    Schumacher 131
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 104
    Zhou 102
    Mazepin 101
    Deletraz 85
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    Quote Originally Posted by 458 Italia View Post
    Didn't see the start, that's impressive!

    In his interview he said hello to home so maybe a nod to his dad watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schumiklub View Post
    14 years :) Michael won in 2006.

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    Right! 🙂

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    Quote Originally Posted by 458 Italia View Post
    Remember it well! The race where at the end LdM handed him and the press a bit of paper telling him he's not wanted for next year (sacked).
    I was there that year such emotion, elation after the win and disappointment after he confirmed he was leaving. I found out a few days before it was officially announced. A guy working for Mercedes (who’s from my country and saw the flag in the stands, so he came over) told us Kimi signed. I had some time to prepare but I still hoped it wasn’t true.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesky View Post
    Standings:

    Shwartzman 134
    llott 134
    Schumacher 131
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 104
    Zhou 102
    Mazepin 101
    Deletraz 85
    If only F1 was like this. Imagine if the standings were like this with 9 rounds to go in F1-
    Hamilton 134
    Verstappen 134
    Leclerc 131
    Vettel 123
    Bottas 104
    Albon 102
    Sainz 101
    Norris 85
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance." - Michael Schumacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schumiklub View Post
    Hopefully a repeat of the F3 season with his late charge to take the title!

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    Could be when the consistency he’s shown as of late will come into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSC Fan View Post
    If only F1 was like this. Imagine if the standings were like this with 9 rounds to go in F1-
    Hamilton 134
    Verstappen 134
    Leclerc 131
    Vettel 123
    Bottas 104
    Albon 102
    Sainz 101
    Norris 85
    If this is the situation. It’s more panic at ferrari as Team orders will come into play, this is where ferrari struggle with 2 star drivers. For Merc & RB it’s easy because they can focus only on one driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesky View Post

    Standings:

    Shwartzman 134
    llott 134
    Schumacher 131
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 104
    Zhou 102
    Mazepin 101
    Deletraz 85
    Standings without pole position points and fastest lap points (4 points for pole position, 2 points for fastest lap)

    Schumacher 129
    Shwartzman 120
    llott 116
    Tsunoda 115
    Mazepin 99
    Lundgaard 98
    Zhou 92
    Deletraz 85

    Illot has picked up 16 points for pole position for example compared to 0 for Shwartzman and Schumacher, Prema has not had a car to take pole in Q.

    This means Schumacher under F1 rules would have lead the championship, despite having the fire extuingsher go off at one race, costing him 10 or 12 points for no fault of his own.

    Schumacher regardless would deserve to to lead the championship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesky View Post
    Standings without pole position points and fastest lap points (4 points for pole position, 2 points for fastest lap)

    Schumacher 129
    Shwartzman 120
    llott 116
    Tsunoda 115
    Mazepin 99
    Lundgaard 98
    Zhou 92
    Deletraz 85

    Illot has picked up 16 points for pole position for example compared to 0 for Shwartzman and Schumacher, Prema has not had a car to take pole in Q.

    This means Schumacher under F1 rules would have lead the championship, despite having the fire extuingsher go off at one race, costing him 10 or 12 points for no fault of his own.

    Schumacher regardless would deserve to to lead the championship.
    I think there was a race where he collided with his team mate. Which eventually lead retirement of shwartzman who was leading the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    I think there was a race where he collided with his team mate. Which eventually lead retirement of shwartzman who was leading the race.
    Yeah, thats true. But Shwartzman had no pace, his tires were gone, he should have let his teammate by and settled for 3rd. Mick would have overtaken him 100% later anyway.

    It was a sprint race, so Schumacher would have had 15 points for the win, and Shwartzman would have been 3rd because the next car overtook them both when they tangled and that car had much better tires than Robert as well.

    Schumacher ended up 2nd and got 12 points. Shwartzman got zero.

    Schumacher would have got 15 points and Shwartzman 10 if they had finished.

    Meaning the difference in points would have been 5 points plus for Schumacher. Instead it became 12 points plus.


    Standings would be like this with both indicents counted for:

    Schumacher 146
    Shwartzman 144
    llott 134
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 104
    Zhou 102
    Mazepin 101
    Deletraz 85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesky View Post
    Yeah, thats true. But Shwartzman had no pace, his tires were gone, he should have let his teammate by and settled for 3rd. Mick would have overtaken him 100% later anyway.

    It was a sprint race, so Schumacher would have had 15 points for the win, and Shwartzman would have been 3rd because the next car overtook them both when they tangled and that car had much better tires than Robert as well.

    Schumacher ended up 2nd and got 12 points. Shwartzman got zero.

    Schumacher would have got 15 points and Shwartzman 10 if they had finished.

    Meaning the difference in points would have been 5 points plus for Schumacher. Instead it became 12 points plus.


    Standings would be like this with both indicents counted for:

    Schumacher 146
    Shwartzman 144
    llott 134
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 104
    Zhou 102
    Mazepin 101
    Deletraz 85
    Yup..his tyres were gone. But both drivers are very good

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    What a difference from the current F1 with the points so close together and proper racing, this is the only way to make F1 a popular and believable series again. If I have to watch another HAM-fest, it will be one too many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    If this is the situation. It’s more panic at ferrari as Team orders will come into play, this is where ferrari struggle with 2 star drivers. For Merc & RB it’s easy because they can focus only on one driver.
    Bottas would be one win away from contention too. As long as we ask our drivers to race clean and cautious, there would be no need for team orders. Besides, winning the WCC would be a cakewalk for us because of our insane driver lineup. The only ones who can afford to use team orders will be RedBull.
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance." - Michael Schumacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSC Fan View Post
    Bottas would be one win away from contention too. As long as we ask our drivers to race clean and cautious, there would be no need for team orders. Besides, winning the WCC would be a cakewalk for us because of our insane driver lineup. The only ones who can afford to use team orders will be RedBull.
    At some point team will rooting for one driver to claim WDC.
    Yeah WCC will be a cake walk

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    Standings after sprint race:

    llott 144
    Schumacher 141
    Shwartzman 138
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 114
    Zhou 102
    Mazepin 101
    Deletraz 91


    Bonus points gained:

    + 18 Illot
    + 10 Zhou
    + 8 Tsunoda
    + 6 Lundgaard
    + 4 Shwartzman
    + 4 Schumacher
    + 2 Mazepin
    + 0 Deletraz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesky View Post
    Standings after sprint race:

    llott 144
    Schumacher 141
    Shwartzman 138
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 114
    Zhou 102
    Mazepin 101
    Deletraz 91


    Bonus points gained:

    + 18 Illot
    + 10 Zhou
    + 8 Tsunoda
    + 6 Lundgaard
    + 4 Shwartzman
    + 4 Schumacher
    + 2 Mazepin
    + 0 Deletraz
    8 rounds left to go (4 other tracks).
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance." - Michael Schumacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesky View Post
    Standings after sprint race:

    llott 144
    Schumacher 141
    Shwartzman 138
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 114
    Zhou 102
    Mazepin 101
    Deletraz 91


    Bonus points gained:

    + 18 Illot
    + 10 Zhou
    + 8 Tsunoda
    + 6 Lundgaard
    + 4 Shwartzman
    + 4 Schumacher
    + 2 Mazepin
    + 0 Deletraz
    Shwartzman should come back hard next race.

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    Mick up to P3, 2nd in the championship now.


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    Revise after Ticktum's exclusion:

    Ilott 149
    Schumacher 143
    Shwartzman 140
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 116
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Revise after Ticktum's exclusion:

    Ilott 149
    Schumacher 143
    Shwartzman 140
    Tsunoda 123
    Lundgaard 116
    Do you see a chance for Shwartzman & mick both in F1 next season one for Haas & other for Alfa

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    Next year would be the time to do it with stable rules and similar cars to this year. Add some excitement to a possibly boring year and get them ready for the bug changes in 2022.

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    F2 has been far more exciting compared to F1 this year. Of course I cheer for Mick, but his speed isn't anything special. He is amazing at starts though. If he can clean up some mistakes, and hopefully get a bit faster, I think he will be a good driver over a season as I think he would just keep getting results.

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    Ferrari won’t base driver decision on results alone

    With three Ferrari junior drivers in the hunt for the F2 title, Mattia Binotto says Ferrari won’t use the standings alone to decide who, if any, gets a promotion.

    Ferrari’s juniors are dominating this year’s Formula 2 championship race.

    Callum Ilott is leading the standings on 149 points, six ahead of Mick Schumacher, while Robert Shwartman is third with 140 points.

    All three have stood on the top step of the podium with Ilott and Shwartman on three apiece while Schumacher claimed his first at Monza, winning Saturday’s feature race.

    However, whoever wins the title isn’t guaranteed a promotion to the Ferrari-powered Alfa Romeo team.

    “I think this season in F2 we have great drivers,” Binotto explained.

    “We have certainly even three drivers battling for the championship – Robert Shwartman, Callum Ilott and Mick. I think they are all doing very well. They are shown progress compared to last season.

    “For Robert, it’s his very first season in F2 and normally when you are a rookie it’s certainly more difficult and I think that as a rookie he is doing very well.

    “I think the other two as well are doing well at the moment. Looking ahead, looking to next year, I think all of them merit a place into an F1 seat.

    “But I think as well that the second half of the season will be the most important for them, especially for Robert, because he’s a rookie, let’s see how he will progress.”

    “Finally, will their performance be the only one.

    “No, I think more important for a driver is to see he is developing and I think that he’s showing the capacity of developing himself and to make progress.


    https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrar...iver-decision/
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    Tuscany GP 2020 race 1 of 2

    Huge day for Mick Schumacher. From P15 to P5 and taking the F2 championship lead for the first time in his career.

    FIVE SECOND TIME PENALTY for Tsunoda

    Zhou has broken steering and is out.

    Shwartzman retires from the F2 feature race.

    Schumacher 153pts
    ILott 149pts
    Schwartzman 140pts
    Lundgaard 128pts
    Mazepin 127pts
    Tsunoda 123pts
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Tuscany GP 2020 race 1 of 2

    Huge day for Mick Schumacher. From P15 to P5 and taking the F2 championship lead for the first time in his career.

    FIVE SECOND TIME PENALTY for Tsunoda

    Zhou has broken steering and is out.

    Shwartzman retires from the F2 feature race.

    Schumacher 153pts
    ILott 149pts
    Schwartzman 140pts
    Lundgaard 128pts
    Mazepin 127pts
    Tsunoda 123pts
    That’s amazing! Go Mick!


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    Current standings:

    Schumacher 153
    ILott 149
    Schwartzman 140
    Lundgaard 128
    Mazepin 127
    Tsunoda 123

    Standing without bonus points:

    Schumacher 149
    ILott 131
    Schwartzman 136
    Lundgaard 120
    Mazepin 125
    Tsunoda 115


    Bonus points gained:

    + 18 Illot
    + 10 Zhou
    + 8 Tsunoda
    + 8 Lundgaard
    + 4 Shwartzman
    + 4 Schumacher
    + 2 Mazepin
    + 2 Deletraz
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    After the feature race in Russia,

    Schumacher 186
    Ilott 168
    Lundgaard 145
    Tsunoda 145
    Shwartzman 140
    Mazepin 135

    It is very likely that he will in the world championship now.
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance." - Michael Schumacher

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