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    Binotto more or less already confirmed that next year's car will be the continuation of this year's outwash philosophy. And I can understand his decision, to design a brand new car with new concept is a massive change during a stable regulation period. No doubt it would also compromise 2021 project.

    And it would be an absolutely moronic decision to hinder Leclerc's progress to appease Vettel. He is only 21 and will continue to get better, Vettel on the other hand already at an age that most drivers experience fall off. And Vettel already reached that stage and he is clearly incapable of turning the train around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniorUS View Post
    To bring things back to the topic - a hypothetical:

    I would imagine that the 2020 development is not too far along and that changes can still made. It is apparent that Vettel and LeClerc have different driving styles that are suited to different cars. Given the performance of the two this year, if you are Ferrari, who's driving style do you favor in the 2020 development?
    I’ll point out single question to you... what’s lacking in SF90???
    If you answer that, will get an idea what’s the car or area of development on next year’s car gonna be.

    Get enough DF on the car & let Vettel, Lec drive it. Outcome you will know next year.
    Based on past data you can’t say that last year he dominated, next year also he will be the same.

    Next year car will be built on our current drivers feedback. If the development is good we will have strong car.
    Not like few anti fan boys say without sense, sacrifice one driver for the other. That’s purely immature comment.
    “Oh Binotto designing car for only their top driver n not for another driver”
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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Iíll point out single question to you... whatís lacking in SF90???
    If you answer that, will get an idea whatís the car or area of development on next yearís car gonna be.

    Get enough DF on the car & let Vettel, Lec drive it. Outcome you will know next year.
    Based on past data you canít say that last year he dominated, next year also he will be the same.

    Next year car will be built on our current drivers feedback. If the development is good we will have strong car.
    Not like few anti fan boys say without sense, sacrifice one driver for the other. Thatís purely immature comment.
    ďOh Binotto designing car for only their top driver n not for another driverĒ
    My but you get defensive whenever Vettel is mentioned - and a little nasty too! There is ALWAYS a balancing act when designing a car; straight line speed vs. stability in the turns; oversteer vs. understeer tendency; etc. When the engineers are designing the car, they make these compromises with their drivers in mind. When their drivers have 2 distinct styles, as Vettel and LeClerc certainly seem to have, they must necessarily favor one over the other when making these choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniorUS View Post
    My but you get defensive whenever Vettel is mentioned - and a little nasty too! There is ALWAYS a balancing act when designing a car; straight line speed vs. stability in the turns; oversteer vs. understeer tendency; etc. When the engineers are designing the car, they make these compromises with their drivers in mind. When their drivers have 2 distinct styles, as Vettel and LeClerc certainly seem to have, they must necessarily favor one over the other when making these choices.
    If you feel I get defensive, probably your thinking process might be different.
    Oversteer/understeer it’s generally depends driver adaptive style. As I said earlier, car design philosophy will be based on drivers feedback at the factory development goes on.
    If we take your formula of one driver favouritism, so ferrari designed a car for Leclerc? So he’s winning? N at the other end vettel is struggling with the same car

    It’s definitely wrong. If you look at 2017/2018 cars ferrari went with good DF which both drivers liked it.
    Same goes with this year’s car & next year too. Leclerc is winning but still feel lacks grip when coming out of slow corners.
    Driving style may be different, but both the drivers like strong rear-end of the car & balance as far I see on track.
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    I like the fact that we have an engine that puzzles our competitors. We have speed on the straights. If we can find more downforce in corners while not sacrificing too much on the straights, we might be working towards a great concept. And I think it's good idea from Binotto to do something different. Because if it works. It will be hard to adopt for the competition. It might also be a gamble. This year teams are complaining about the small operating window in which the tires are at their best. Except Mercedes. And they didn't like the proposal to make them larger for next year. So we definitely are struggling with it this year. Anyway Peter Windsor had some interesting video about our team. https://youtu.be/m7WQjrUKcA0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari312T4 View Post
    I like the fact that we have an engine that puzzles our competitors. We have speed on the straights. If we can find more downforce in corners while not sacrificing too much on the straights, we might be working towards a great concept. And I think it's good idea from Binotto to do something different. Because if it works. It will be hard to adopt for the competition. It might also be a gamble. This year teams are complaining about the small operating window in which the tires are at their best. Except Mercedes. And they didn't like the proposal to make them larger for next year. So we definitely are struggling with it this year. Anyway Peter Windsor had some interesting video about our team. https://youtu.be/m7WQjrUKcA0
    There’s a rumour that mercs pushing its customer teams to block additional days of testing for Pirelli.
    On other side they say, we are ok with it. Why would only Williams & RP block it cheap tricks from mercs
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    Well next year the tires are supposed to have a larger operating window, so if Ferrari manage to add some decent downforce to this years car and get these tires to work, then we should be in good shape for next year. Hopefully a fast car that can turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Bob View Post
    Well next year the tires are supposed to have a larger operating window, so if Ferrari manage to add some decent downforce to this years car and get these tires to work, then we should be in good shape for next year. Hopefully a fast car that can turn.
    We have a good quali car, what needed is race pace. If they sort it out this car is a beast
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance " : - Michael Schumacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    We have a good quali car, what needed is race pace. If they sort it out this car is a beast
    yeah this.....we have a strong car in Quali...and now that the so called UPGRADES are actually working....especially at a circuit where we thoought we would be thompelled by Merc and red bull....i am really impressed....so once we sort out out race pace, yeah, the sf90 will be BEYOND BEAST.....
    ...the new SF90 in the MATTE RED, to me it looks amazing. Let's hope it's gonna be as FAST as it looks.


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