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    Quote Originally Posted by chinmay View Post
    To beat Mercedes in qualifying, historical trends suggest Ferrari must be faster than them by at least 6 tenths in FP2. Forget 6 tenths, Mercedes is quickest despite that long straight, doesn't bode well at all. I hope Ferrari is sandbagging big time else it will be a Sunday cruise for Hamilton. Red Bull fastest in Sector 1, Mercedes 2nd best, Ferrari 3rd best.
    Should've checked last years fp2 times before posting your "historical figures"

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinmay View Post
    To beat Mercedes in qualifying, historical trends suggest Ferrari must be faster than them by at least 6 tenths in FP2. Forget 6 tenths, Mercedes is quickest despite that long straight, doesn't bode well at all. I hope Ferrari is sandbagging big time else it will be a Sunday cruise for Hamilton. Red Bull fastest in Sector 1, Mercedes 2nd best, Ferrari 3rd best.
    Vettel is currently P2 +.027 to Bottas on the same rubber. In Free Practice 2. With half an hour to go. With one more practice session left. And Hamilton in 4th. And Hulkenberg and Sainz ahead of Charles. The only thing one can glean currently is that there are racing cars on a track in Shanghai.

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    Long run watch

    Vettel 1:38.781
    Bottas 1:39.292

    Both on SS, Vettel did 7 laps on them and Bot did 10 laps

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    Lec out of the car..... I don’t think we will have trouble free weekend.
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    Not a good day for Charles, problems again. Hopefully not another engine issue

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    Well atleast our long run pace is looking handy, Vettel is faster than both Merc and Max, by quite a big margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Long run watch

    Vettel 1:38.781
    Bottas 1:39.292

    Both on SS, Vettel did 7 laps on them and Bot did 10 laps
    Thank you for the info, keep on the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Should've checked last years fp2 times before posting your "historical figures"
    Look at last race. We were nearly a second ahead all weekend. Until Q3. The Mercedes Party Mode is worth a half second a lap.


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    Looks like a bouncing back weekend for Seb so far, that Bahrein test seem to have really helped him. The new CE though... Does not look bulletproof. With only 2 of them available for a season this is some what disturbing.

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    Major coolant leak on Leclercs car.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Major coolant leak on Leclercs car.
    they look calm though in the garage


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    they look calm though in the garage
    Yeah, had this been FP3 into quali then it would've looked "chaotic".
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Vettel's last lap 1:41.215 still on SS. (tyre age: 17 laps)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    Look at last race. We were nearly a second ahead all weekend. Until Q3. The Mercedes Party Mode is worth a half second a lap.
    Not that simple.
    It's not like they where running the exactly same set -ups engine modes and drivers pushing exactly the same on FPS ,To just compare their time margin to Q3!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Vettel's last lap 1:41.215 still on SS. (tyre age: 17 laps)
    What about bottas and Hamilton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Vettel's last lap 1:41.215 still on SS. (tyre age: 17 laps)
    Edit: next 2 laps 1:41.313, 1:41.177

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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    Not that simple.
    It's not like they where running the exactly same set -ups engine modes and drivers pushing exactly the same on FPS ,To just compare their time margin to Q3!!
    I don't disagree that Merc are the ultimate sandbaggers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Schumir9 View Post
    What about bottas and Hamilton?
    Bottas changed to hards: 1:38.995 (tyre age: 16 laps)

    Hamilton also changed his tyes, from mediums to softs. Last lap 1:38.261 (tyre age: 8 laps)

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    Seb's first lap on hards: 1:38.112 (tyre age: 9 laps)

    Edit: lap 2: 1:38.055

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Seb's first lap on hards: 1:38.112 (tyre age: 9 laps)
    that's damn good, if it's faster than Ham on softs?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    Look at last race. We were nearly a second ahead all weekend. Until Q3. The Mercedes Party Mode is worth a half second a lap.
    Yes, their party mode creates issue in most qualifying sessions. Last time in Bahrain, the smallest gap was in Q3, need to work on that Q3 mode to bring it closer to Merc level.

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    according to commentators our soft avg is aroound 1.40 bottas avg 1.39

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinmay View Post
    Yes, their party mode creates issue in most qualifying sessions. Last time in Bahrain, the smallest gap was in Q3, need to work on that Q3 mode to bring it closer to Merc level.
    i mean it won't be a big deal here, or at most tracks, with the combination of our 'stock' horsepower advantage and drs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    that's damn good, if it's faster than Ham on softs?
    On that lap, Seb was 0.4 sec faster

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    It's a bit anxious reading the feedback!!!
    Tifosi tell us very good race sim lap times ,and f412 comes to ruin it saying that commentators say we are slower?????!!!!!! I now both of them are telling what they are seeing/hearing, but WHATS GOING ON??!! Witch is the "real" picture??!!
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    We are slower because we have not won it this year. So we must be slower. Dont believe this hype from last year that we are the faster ones. It is a bull ****.
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    Forget this quali crap our strait line speed will deliver pole means crap the points come on race day o yea that's right we will also take one point for fastest lap just for good measure.

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    Mercedes brought a new front wing to Shanghai and have to either modify it or they can't use it. The new front wing does not comply with the regulations in the area of the end plates.
    Source:
    https://www.auto-mot...-gp-china-2019/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    It's a bit anxious reading the feedback!!!
    Tifosi tell us very good race sim lap times ,and f412 comes to ruin it saying that commentators say we are slower?????!!!!!! I now both of them are telling what they are seeing/hearing, but WHATS GOING ON??!! Witch is the "real" picture??!!
    Well Bottas did shorter stint on softs, also with few back to back cool down laps which I am sure was excluded by the commentators. Vettel on the other hand did more laps onsofts with just one cooldown lap...so obviously his stint average looks worse than Bottas's.

    But I don't think we should get too excited by Friday long runs. They aren't the actual representation of Sunday's race pace.

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    It's gonna be a fascinating race, we really need to win this one.

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