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Thread: Baku 2019: Practices & Qualifying

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Okay, he's been DQ'd. So starting in pit lane.

    Apart from top4, who are the drivers ahead of Leclerc?? Can u post the starting grid??
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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Apart from top4, who are the drivers ahead of Leclerc?? Can u post the starting grid??
    Waiting for an update due to all these changes.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Provisional Azerbaijan GP Grid

    1. Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes
    2. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
    3. Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari
    4. Max Verstappen, Red Bull
    5. Sergio Perez, Racing Point
    6. Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso
    7. Lando Norris, McLaren
    8. Charles Leclerc, Ferrari
    9. Carlos Sainz, McLaren
    10. Daniel Ricciardo, Renault
    11. Alex Albon, Toro Rosso
    12. Kevin Magnussen, Haas
    13. Lance Stroll, Racing Point
    14. Romain Grosjean, Haas
    15. Nico Hulkenberg, Renault
    16. George Russell, Williams
    17. Antonio Giovinazzi, Alfa Romeo
    Pit Lane. Pierre Gasly, Red Bull
    Pit Lane. Robert Kubica, Williams
    Pit Lane. Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo

    Sky is pretty good in updating the starting grid as soon as something happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinmay View Post
    Provisional Azerbaijan GP Grid

    1. Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes
    2. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
    3. Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari
    4. Max Verstappen, Red Bull
    5. Sergio Perez, Racing Point
    6. Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso
    7. Lando Norris, McLaren
    8. Charles Leclerc, Ferrari
    9. Carlos Sainz, McLaren
    10. Daniel Ricciardo, Renault
    11. Alex Albon, Toro Rosso
    12. Kevin Magnussen, Haas
    13. Lance Stroll, Racing Point
    14. Romain Grosjean, Haas
    15. Nico Hulkenberg, Renault
    16. George Russell, Williams
    17. Antonio Giovinazzi, Alfa Romeo
    Pit Lane. Pierre Gasly, Red Bull
    Pit Lane. Robert Kubica, Williams
    Pit Lane. Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo

    Sky is pretty good in updating the starting grid as soon as something happens.
    Yeah... it’s 1-2 for them right. They will be pretty quick
    Looking at the grid. It should be good for Charles till p4.
    Now passing mad max soon gonna be crucial for his race chances.
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    The best thing to do on this forum to calm down the debate between Vettel fans and the rest is to stop painting Leclerc as the next Schumacher at the moment. Lets wait at least until race 12 or so to weigh on how good Leclerc is and also how he compares to Vettel.

    What I have seen is also that Leclerc does not seem to be that emotionally cool and stable as people were claiming, unfortunately I should say of course.

    Lets pray for a miracle in the race!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Vettel will have nothing in his heart. But mad max for sure doesn’t like vettel at all more than mercs. So max will not back.
    Even RB get ahead of vettel, I don’t think it will last long given straight line power of ferrari.
    Verstappen called Vettel overrated in a Dutch paper called 'De Telegraaf'

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    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance " : - Michael Schumacher

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    Ferrari is stalling Leclerc progress to favour Vettel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfsmith View Post
    Ferrari is stalling Leclerc progress to favour Vettel.
    For sure! And in favor of Liberty. Liberty for sure feels it's got to be Lewis vs. Seb not Charles, to fill the seats with fans. Outside of Ferrari fans it's still too early, just 2yrs. in F-1 to be fighting Lewis for WDC. It's Charles who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    For sure! And in favor of Liberty. Liberty for sure feels it's got to be Lewis vs. Seb not Charles, to fill the seats with fans. Outside of Ferrari fans it's still too early, just 2yrs. in F-1 to be fighting Lewis for WDC. It's Charles who?
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance " : - Michael Schumacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfsmith View Post
    Ferrari is stalling Leclerc progress to favour Vettel.
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance " : - Michael Schumacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Unbelievable, next time we will hear on this forum that its Seb fault that the earth is flat. Thank god he is not reading some people here on, definition of stupidity, no offence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettel165 View Post
    Unbelievable, next time we will hear on this forum that its Seb fault that the earth is flat. Thank god he is not reading some people here on, definition of stupidity, no offence.
    No one is demonizing Vettel or blaming him for Ferrari's lack of pace. The Ferrari is not good enough.

    The problem is that a young talent who has a bright future ahead of him with Ferrari is being made to play second fiddle to a driver who presents as past his prime.

    If Leclerc's engine had not failed him in Bahrain, he would be leading Vettel after the first four races based on that alone. That's not even including the points he lost from being used in China, and possibly Baku, to help Vettel. He should have finished fourth in at least China and that hurts the chances for the Constructor's.

    Vettel does not deserve his number one status like Schumacher and Alonso did and he had his chance to capitalize on a great car last year.
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    I consider Charles' having to drive as #2 driver regardless of Sebs ' mistakes and not able to compete against Bottas and Lewis so far as boot camp training by Ferrari, getting Charles trained to be that #2 driver as soon as Mick is ready to take Sebs' seat. There's no way Ferrari is not aware that Charles with 2 yrs. in F-1 and so young to boot isn't their #1 guy now and in the future. Ferrari taking Seb on board as #1 coming with 4 WDCs was for sure at the time ; the right $$$$ move. Charles' driving as great as it is so far will not compare $$$ wise with having Mick in that #1 seat for Ferrari. I hope I'm dead wrong here but seeing how Ferrari is handling the two drivers can't be just because of bad tire choices! Charles needs to yes everyone to death , but then just do what he sees right for the win. I see that as "Max imizing " your chances of miximum points!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettel165 View Post
    Unbelievable, next time we will hear on this forum that its Seb fault that the earth is flat. Thank god he is not reading some people here on, definition of stupidity, no offence.
    Now see the forum when seb wins it. It will be different.
    The whole thing is projected like vet vs Lec n team orders. Even before the race weekend is started.
    Yes Lec is fast, wt happ in Bahrain?? He won it on his merit by passing vettel. That’s wt you should do & prove.
    Few of them repeatedly saying in AUS GP & China GP team ordered Lec or wantedly delayed pit stop etc it went to an extent that even the same is carried to Baku.

    In AUS GP, vettel got wrong strategy & Lec got right strategy. Now on this one nobody is questioning?? It’s just Lec is faster & not allowed to pass. Nobody understands that Lec is faster because of alternate strategy & even if he is allowed to pass there’s no big difference. As mercs are another level at that race.
    Come China GP, vettel is faster than Lec. Where vet was loosing his prime lap times. So team order is inevitable, team thought vettel would catch bottas atleast with that pace he had earlier. But vettel lost his tyres. Here too team strategy was wrong, they should have called Lec into pit stop right after vettel stop. Instead went on with it.

    So two races where strategy got wrong.

    Mistakes: In Bahrain vettel made a mistake did cost pts. In Baku, Lec made a mistake did cost the win.

    So two races where both drivers made mistakes.

    All in all, it’s a combined failures from ferrari & it’s drivers again.
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    A failure from Ferrari & it's drivers again and again! What's left to get the team winning? At least the fans are not being held responsible. The fans are there ; rain or shine. Seb vs. Charles; Charles vs. Seb is enough to keep fans for the most part interested. All points count.

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