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    And to all this ,Pirelli also lowered the pressures by 1 psi !!!
    FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!

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    I was too early, still 1 hour to FP3.

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    looks like it could rain today, dark clouds

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimiBot View Post
    I was too early, still 1 hour to FP3.
    off topic: what's your prediction on Slovakia vs Finland tonight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    And to all this ,Pirelli also lowered the pressures by 1 psi !!!
    I think it can be a good news for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    Monaco will be LeClerc's biggest win of the season!! Merc will easily be second.
    You are serious or...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    off topic: what's your prediction on Slovakia vs Finland tonight?
    I just follow F1, I guess you are talking about hockey, I have to say that I don`t have a clue

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimiBot View Post
    I just follow F1, I guess you are talking about hockey, I have to say that I don`t have a clue
    yeah ice hockey, no probs

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    Quote Originally Posted by distortion View Post
    Correct... 4 wheel steer, interlinked just out of rules reach, and tires made just for them.
    Quote Originally Posted by darkchild View Post
    Might be 4 wheel steering, I have no idea my self. RB is comfortably behind like we are, so...
    Quote Originally Posted by erikejw View Post
    Mechanical as in 4 wheel steering :)
    That why their apex speed is so high, andonky in slow corners where aero is not a deciding factor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyss4k View Post
    Is this confirmed somewhere? Or is it just a rumor?
    Quote Originally Posted by mardyrt View Post
    It was written on an Italian F1 website. Also, you can tell the car is turning on its own axis. It was evident in testing, the car does not slide into the corner, just turns on its axis.
    Also, when you look at the apex speeds, how late they brake, and how far they hold the brake, you can tell the car is turning while the brakes are applied. They can carry huge speed into the corner. The brake steer is not a huge thing to impliment, I dont know why they dont do it in Ferrari.



    It's rear wheel "steering". Mercs experimented with this at the end of 2018 (excerpts from Italian Motorsport)

    How many Mercedes experiments: the W10 simulates the rear steering wheels

    https://cdn-2.motorsport.com/images/...edes-amg-f.jpg

    The silver arrow in the first test session in Barcelona tried the basic set-up: the front was chosen for the push rod strut, while behind it worked on four steering wheels and the height from the ground. The real Mercedes will appear next week.

    The second analysis concerns the front suspension: the W10 has two configurations. The more traditional one was preferred with the external bracket of the push rod strut that is added to the pivot with which the upper triangle is not only raised, but also offset from the lower one.

    https://cdn-7.motorsport.com/images/...0-detail-1.jpg


    Mercedes engineers have worked hard to gather data on the two front suspension options, while behind they have focused on two other very important aspects: steering wheel simulation and ground clearance. . According to the rumors of the paddock there were a couple of ZF technicians to support the engineers of Brackley to find the right set-up of the "steering".

    Let's be clear from the start: it's all legal, because the engineers of James Allison would work on the gray part of the regulation, namely on all brake-by-wire tolerances, engine maps, differential management and resilience of the suspensions. The (difficult) combination of all these elements would give an important result that would facilitate the entry of the arrow in the curve of silver, allowing a greater speed in cornering. The image we posted above is rather eloquent about the behavior of the rear tires at the entrance to the chicane in Barcelona.

    If we add to all this that on the W10 were made of ground clearance tests with the car that has also traveled with the bottom parallel to the asphalt and then get to the usual value of Rake (1.2 °), it is easy to see how the silver arrow he shot in Catalunya was a sort of laboratory car.

    In these days both in Breckley and in Brixworth will be analyzed all the data collected and from Tuesday, again in Spain, we will see a W10 in a more projected capacity at the Australian GP ...

    https://translate.google.com/transla...4/&prev=search



    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    and the others teams? nobody else has tried it?
    nope
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Disagree with the nope.
    All the teams will have something similar to rear wheel steer, just not as advanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_spook View Post
    Disagree with the nope.
    All the teams will have something similar to rear wheel steer, just not as advanced
    Like who and care to share the link or links???.................please.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    And to all this ,Pirelli also lowered the pressures by 1 psi !!!
    It’s always the tyres, I’m telling you - MercPirelli just gets the tyres working better.
    ~FORZA FERRARI~

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Like who and care to share the link or links???.................please.
    Come on, you don’t believe they all have something similar, rear steering that has being around for a 100 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_spook View Post
    Disagree with the nope.
    All the teams will have something similar to rear wheel steer, just not as advanced
    Formula 1 is all about advanced stuff, they keep on doing something new and unique and powerful, all others do then is try to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_spook View Post
    Come on, you don’t believe they all have something similar, rear steering that has being around for a 100 years.
    First I've heard of this in F1 while still being legal in this hybrid formula.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    I read it from f1technical


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    Post by dans79 » 23 Feb 2019, 20:03

    I believe if you read the vagaries of the rules, active 4-wheel stealing is prevented passive is not. A lot of the teams have been doing a small amount of it passively for a while, the question is to what extent is Merc working towards.

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    Mercs reverted back to their old spec mirrors.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp View Post
    what about Max?
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance " : - Michael Schumacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Mercs reverted back to their old spec mirrors.
    So the new one’s are deemed illegal?? Looks like it is.
    "I've always believed that you should never, ever give up and you should always keep fighting even when there's only a slightest chance " : - Michael Schumacher

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    Cool condition, Current track temp 28C, during FP2 yesterday it was 43C.

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    Temps cooler today.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    So the new one’s are deemed illegal?? Looks like it is.
    My thoughts exactly.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    2019 Spanish GP: Practices & Qualifying

    Croft saying Circuit de Catalunya & Hockenheim could miss out next year, replaced by Zandavoort & Vietnam
    “I prefer to beat them on Sunday” -Fernando Alonso, Press Conference Korean GP 2010

    "Giornata fantastica !!"- Andrea Stella, European GP 2012


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    FP3 Results – 2018 Spanish Grand Prix

    Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:17.281
    Valtteri Bottas Mercedes +0.013
    Sebastian Vettel Ferrari +0.269
    Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari +0.300
    Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing +0.700
    Kevin Magnussen Haas +1.076
    Romain Grosjean Haas +1.425
    Carlos Sainz Renault +1.502
    Fernando Alonso McLaren +1.566
    Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso +1.605
    Nico Hulkenberg Renault +1.624
    Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing +1.732
    Esteban Ocon Force India +1.840
    Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren +1.955
    Charles Leclerc Sauber +2.011
    Sergio Perez Force India +2.095
    Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso +2.147
    Marcus Ericsson Sauber +2.463
    Lance Stroll Williams +2.619
    Sergey Sirotkin Williams +2.628

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rishu View Post
    Croft saying Circuit de Catalunya & Hockenheim could miss out next year, replaced by Zandavoort & Vietnam
    Yep, looks like Zandvoort is on for the 2020 calender.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Yep, looks like Zandvoort is on for the 2020 calender.
    First Malaysia, then Barcelona and now Hockenheim, that’s disaster from driver’s perspective
    “I prefer to beat them on Sunday” -Fernando Alonso, Press Conference Korean GP 2010

    "Giornata fantastica !!"- Andrea Stella, European GP 2012


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    flat spot

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    usually good sign when Seb finding extremes in FP, we`ll see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rishu View Post
    First Malaysia, then Barcelona and now Hockenheim, that’s disaster from driver’s perspective
    There's a YouTube video of the Hanoi track sim.

    Looks okay from the sim.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    and Charles just keeps his level, he did surprise me this year, he is great

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