2019 Spanish GP: Practices & Qualifying

[PURE PASSION]

And to all this ,Pirelli also lowered the pressures by 1 psi !!!

[KimiBot]

I was too early, still 1 hour to FP3.

[KimiBot]

looks like it could rain today, dark clouds

[Ferrarichamp]

I was too early, still 1 hour to FP3.

off topic: what's your prediction on Slovakia vs Finland tonight?

[ferenc_k]

And to all this ,Pirelli also lowered the pressures by 1 psi !!!

I think it can be a good news for us.

[stefa]

Monaco will be LeClerc's biggest win of the season!! Merc will easily be second.

You are serious or...?

[KimiBot]

off topic: what's your prediction on Slovakia vs Finland tonight?

I just follow F1, I guess you are talking about hockey, I have to say that I don`t have a clue

[Ferrarichamp]

I just follow F1, I guess you are talking about hockey, I have to say that I don`t have a clue

yeah ice hockey, no probs

[jgonzalesm6]

Correct... 4 wheel steer, interlinked just out of rules reach, and tires made just for them.

Might be 4 wheel steering, I have no idea my self. RB is comfortably behind like we are, so...

Mechanical as in 4 wheel steering :)
That why their apex speed is so high, andonky in slow corners where aero is not a deciding factor.

Is this confirmed somewhere? Or is it just a rumor?

It was written on an Italian F1 website. Also, you can tell the car is turning on its own axis. It was evident in testing, the car does not slide into the corner, just turns on its axis.
Also, when you look at the apex speeds, how late they brake, and how far they hold the brake, you can tell the car is turning while the brakes are applied. They can carry huge speed into the corner. The brake steer is not a huge thing to impliment, I dont know why they dont do it in Ferrari.

It's rear wheel "steering". Mercs experimented with this at the end of 2018 (excerpts from Italian Motorsport)

How many Mercedes experiments: the W10 simulates the rear steering wheels

https://cdn-2.motorsport.com/images/...edes-amg-f.jpg

The silver arrow in the first test session in Barcelona tried the basic set-up: the front was chosen for the push rod strut, while behind it worked on four steering wheels and the height from the ground. The real Mercedes will appear next week.

The second analysis concerns the front suspension: the W10 has two configurations. The more traditional one was preferred with the external bracket of the push rod strut that is added to the pivot with which the upper triangle is not only raised, but also offset from the lower one.

https://cdn-7.motorsport.com/images/...0-detail-1.jpg


Mercedes engineers have worked hard to gather data on the two front suspension options, while behind they have focused on two other very important aspects: steering wheel simulation and ground clearance. . According to the rumors of the paddock there were a couple of ZF technicians to support the engineers of Brackley to find the right set-up of the "steering".

Let's be clear from the start: it's all legal, because the engineers of James Allison would work on the gray part of the regulation, namely on all brake-by-wire tolerances, engine maps, differential management and resilience of the suspensions. The (difficult) combination of all these elements would give an important result that would facilitate the entry of the arrow in the curve of silver, allowing a greater speed in cornering. The image we posted above is rather eloquent about the behavior of the rear tires at the entrance to the chicane in Barcelona.

If we add to all this that on the W10 were made of ground clearance tests with the car that has also traveled with the bottom parallel to the asphalt and then get to the usual value of Rake (1.2 °), it is easy to see how the silver arrow he shot in Catalunya was a sort of laboratory car.

In these days both in Breckley and in Brixworth will be analyzed all the data collected and from Tuesday, again in Spain, we will see a W10 in a more projected capacity at the Australian GP ...

https://translate.google.com/transla...4/&prev=search

and the others teams? nobody else has tried it?

nope

[evo_spook]

Disagree with the nope.
All the teams will have something similar to rear wheel steer, just not as advanced

[jgonzalesm6]

Disagree with the nope.
All the teams will have something similar to rear wheel steer, just not as advanced

Like who and care to share the link or links???.................please.

[ferrari1.8t]

And to all this ,Pirelli also lowered the pressures by 1 psi !!!

It’s always the tyres, I’m telling you - MercPirelli just gets the tyres working better.

[evo_spook]

Like who and care to share the link or links???.................please.

Come on, you don’t believe they all have something similar, rear steering that has being around for a 100 years.

[chinmay]

Disagree with the nope.
All the teams will have something similar to rear wheel steer, just not as advanced

Formula 1 is all about advanced stuff, they keep on doing something new and unique and powerful, all others do then is try to catch up.

[jgonzalesm6]

Come on, you don’t believe they all have something similar, rear steering that has being around for a 100 years.

First I've heard of this in F1 while still being legal in this hybrid formula.

[evo_spook]

I read it from f1technical


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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+
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Post by dans79 » 23 Feb 2019, 20:03

I believe if you read the vagaries of the rules, active 4-wheel stealing is prevented passive is not. A lot of the teams have been doing a small amount of it passively for a while, the question is to what extent is Merc working towards.

[jgonzalesm6]

Mercs reverted back to their old spec mirrors.

[nani_s23]

what about Max?

[nani_s23]

Mercs reverted back to their old spec mirrors.

So the new one’s are deemed illegal?? Looks like it is.

[tifosi1993]

Cool condition, Current track temp 28C, during FP2 yesterday it was 43C.

[jgonzalesm6]

Temps cooler today.

[jgonzalesm6]

So the new one’s are deemed illegal?? Looks like it is.

My thoughts exactly.

[Rishu]

Croft saying Circuit de Catalunya & Hockenheim could miss out next year, replaced by Zandavoort & Vietnam

[KimiBot]

FP3 Results – 2018 Spanish Grand Prix

Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:17.281
Valtteri Bottas Mercedes +0.013
Sebastian Vettel Ferrari +0.269
Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari +0.300
Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing +0.700
Kevin Magnussen Haas +1.076
Romain Grosjean Haas +1.425
Carlos Sainz Renault +1.502
Fernando Alonso McLaren +1.566
Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso +1.605
Nico Hulkenberg Renault +1.624
Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing +1.732
Esteban Ocon Force India +1.840
Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren +1.955
Charles Leclerc Sauber +2.011
Sergio Perez Force India +2.095
Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso +2.147
Marcus Ericsson Sauber +2.463
Lance Stroll Williams +2.619
Sergey Sirotkin Williams +2.628

[jgonzalesm6]

Croft saying Circuit de Catalunya & Hockenheim could miss out next year, replaced by Zandavoort & Vietnam

Yep, looks like Zandvoort is on for the 2020 calender.

[Rishu]

Yep, looks like Zandvoort is on for the 2020 calender.

First Malaysia, then Barcelona and now Hockenheim, that’s disaster from driver’s perspective

[KimiBot]

flat spot

[KimiBot]

usually good sign when Seb finding extremes in FP, we`ll see

[jgonzalesm6]

First Malaysia, then Barcelona and now Hockenheim, that’s disaster from driver’s perspective

There's a YouTube video of the Hanoi track sim.

Looks okay from the sim.

[KimiBot]

and Charles just keeps his level, he did surprise me this year, he is great