Yup, totally agree with you
The sooner Ferrari gets RID of useless Vet, the better and also will save themselves a chunk of money (50 million that is a season)
I’m sure they can find someone better to take his spot for a LOT less money.....someone like the Hulk or even Richiardo
So 2023 started off bad, but managed to claw back some lap time come end of the year. Lets hope SF24 will give us tifosi something to smile about.
Meanwhile Honda's in Merc is out ! Louis' car was no match catching the Honda? Botta's car blows up ? All those Honda engine upgrades paid off.
Honda and Red Bull for 2020 !!!they are doing incredible work. The biggest problem will be this team in the future not Mercedes.
The whole situation is completely embarrassing.
Disappointed Since 2010
“Obviously if we look at our team we are really disappointed because the mistake the two drivers made cost us dearly,” Binotto told Sky Sports Italy.
“We will analyze what happened in the coming days. I don’t want to say it now because I haven’t watch everything yet, but both driver must understand that they damaged the race of Ferrari.
“The drivers were free to fight, but this is a costly mistake that damages the work of all the team.
“We are thinking about not doing the debriefing because we have to send a message to both drivers. I already spoke with them that these are accidents that can happen, but both drivers have responsibility.
“If next year we have two drivers fighting for the world title we would be happy and they would be free to fight, but in this situation? No.”
Great leadership, Mr. Binotto. Way to go.
Disappointed Since 2010
Why did Ferrari not issue a team order to let Charles pass Seb immediately after SC ended? Leclerc was on fresh tires and could have challenged for 2nd, keeping him behind Seb was a giant mistake and Seb would never have kept Charles behind until the end, so it just ruined Charles chances as well. Binotto FAILED once again! Will Binotto ever learn? I dont think he will, I am not seeing any improvement on his managment on team orders. Ferrari wont be winning anything with him in charge. The guy cant make a decision during the race on what to do with team orders, not even this time when he had plenty of time to react. If we manage to get together a decent car, this will come back to bite us.
Vettel obviously was angry about getting the wrong call on the SC, and let his feelings do the driving, and let Ferrari pay the results! Beyond stupid.
The positives? That this happened this year with the championship already decided, and that maybe, just maybe Binotto and the drivers can learn something, even though the chance is very slim! Probably the best thing that could happen is if the exact same thing happens in the last race, that could maybe serve as the final wakeup call.
Make Leclerc the number one, and if it does not suit Vettel, he can take a hike! Vettel will get worse and Leclerc will improve not only with age, but with experience. if Binotto does not get that, or lack the balls to enforce it, then find someone who will!
Last edited by Lesky; 18th November 2019 at 02:10.
"Formula 1 is not a sport anymore” - Fernando Alonso
No driver will wantedly start bad or finish bad. Dont state the obvious. Its understandable that you are a seb fan and some of the comments on here would sting (mainly cause they are true)- but the dolt just lost us a 2-3 or a 3-4 finish; and has the cheek to say (to the reporter) that Lec moved in on him. Arrogance and stupidity.
I would be very glad to see him go.
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Ohhh man .... you seriously. When he wins no one comes out n post these many messages.
But a mistake, corner him at every stage.
Did I say I’m seb fan ?? Have you seen my bio?
I’m fan of schumi & Alonso. And you know most of Alonso fans are not Vettel fans. I’m one of them.
I support the team ferrari, team includes their drivers too.
Again n again I can’t reiterate to you n all here about my Fanism etc..!!
Mistakes are bound to happen In racing with every driver. Would you predict the future of any driver that he can’t make mistakes ???
Go to Bahrain GP thread, I’ve said vettel with Ferrari 2020 is the last for him. You people do understand that.
I support both drivers, whether they mistake or not it’s irrelevant for me. Until they drive for Ferrari I support them.
Any driver in F1 feels to drive for Ferrari at least for once. That’s the heritage Ferrari carry.
Ferrari don’t need champion drivers, Ferrari make champion drivers.
Few of them are asking for Hulk here.....
Lec will easily topple him with 21-0 or 22-0 in quali & in race it’s a question mark.
Bottas/Albon can easily quali ahead of hulk.
Funny that here few of them are aiming at only WDC individual performance n call themselves as Ferrari fans.
Ferrari Is a team, no one is counting on WCC. Pathetic.
After yesterday's race, i'm officially dissapointed with Vetel. You've made mistakes before , But yesterday's one was pathetic and embarrassing for a lot of Ferrari tifosi. I think you need to go!!!!
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Drive it like you stole it!
So much hate.... Sad to see.
What I said in the first post of this thread proved right. Unfortunately. Now then, can it get worse? With Ferrari - yes, it can and it will. I am horrified to think what could get worse and cannot say it ... God forbid!!
I don't know how things are behind the scenes or what Binnotto's leadership style is, but a F1 team leader has to be a dictator.
If he says, 'let driver pass', there is no debate on the radio about this. It is done.
I believe this is how it works at Red Bull and Mercedes. No debating with the team leader. His job and responsibility is to make these decisions.
Hes won once, and made umpteen mistakes. Do the math.
lol.. no one is asking you to. If you were indeed about the Ferrari team, i dont think you would have been so calm at losing both cars in the race with 4 laps left.
sorry, i dont believe in blind support. The driver should be worthy of support, amd not just wearing the right uniform.
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