What is going on with Sebastian Vettel

**tifosi1993** · 3rd June 2020, 17:54

Oh well Toto, you've got a driver who has won 5 of the last 6 WDC's, you've also got a driver who's slower than your star driver and incapable of beating him over a season. It's pretty easy to team order Bottas, "Valterri, please lap around 1m48.8 delta so that you don't get track position ahead of Lewis", but that sort of team order on Leclerc is not going to work, and not to mention extremely unfair since Leclerc, who only had 21 race experience when he got promoted from Alfa to Ferrari, out win-pole-podium-scored Vettel.

So it's not really unusual, it's pretty simple actually. I mean you could've easily replaced Bottas with Max, but you didn't and it was quite understandable. But that's not the case here at Ferrari, Leclerc is not a obedient butler like Bottas, he is an exceptional talent and future world champion. When the choice is between Leclerc and Vettel, Leclerc is the obvious answer. Just like when it is Max vs Bottas as Hamilton's teammate, Bottas is the obvious answer.

**Brembo** · 4th June 2020, 03:15

Ferrari is the mother of all " Rubenization! " Todt. Ross, Shumy ! Max is #1 @ R Bull, that's what he wanted. @ Merc it's Luis' car not him that's winning. Bottas has no chance against that car. It drives itself to the checker flag. He still managed to finish 2nd place. Seb!! Where were you?
Bottas did 7 wins, 11 poles, 36 podiums 878 pts. so far with Merc. Another great car , I guess is the reason. The races can't come back soooon enough! I can't wait for Charles, Lewis{car}, and Max to fight to the end for WCC !

**tifosi1993** · 2nd July 2020, 16:36

So Vettel, the man himself, pretty much confirmed today that, he had received zero contract extension offer from Ferrari. Ferrari never showed any interest of signing him for another year or two, there wasn't even a single offer from them to Vettel.

So, Turrini, the so called "Ferrari Insider", posted some fake rumors to get some clicks for his fake news blog. I hope people here will soon realize that Turrini isn't a Ferrari insider, and will stop posting his blog-nonsense.

**PURE PASSION** · 2nd July 2020, 19:49

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

So Vettel, the man himself, pretty much confirmed today that, he had received zero contract extension offer from Ferrari. Ferrari never showed any interest of signing him for another year or two, there wasn't even a single offer from them to Vettel.

So, Turrini, the so called "Ferrari Insider", posted some fake rumors to get some clicks for his fake news blog. I hope people here will soon realize that Turrini isn't a Ferrari insider, and will stop posting his blog-nonsense.

Isnt also Bonotto himself that said in an interview in the end of '19 that " our 1st priority is Vettel"?? what happend ?? why did he said that ???

**Rishu** · 3rd July 2020, 02:19

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Isnt also Bonotto himself that said in an interview in the end of '19 that " our 1st priority is Vettel"?? what happend ?? why did he said that ???

Yes, both things are contradictory. On one hand you come out and say Vettel is in Pole position for the second seat and then there is no contract to offer

**Brembo** · 3rd July 2020, 02:34

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Isnt also Bonotto himself that said in an interview in the end of '19 that " our 1st priority is Vettel"?? what happend ?? why did he said that ???

Binotto's pay check is for sure a big one! $50 million pay to Seb had to in some way by someone in Ferrari be compensated for; at least verbally. That's what happened. In a quiet place far from any engine noise Binotto was told what to say pro Seb . Charles made it tough as all hell for them. I'm hopping for Charles to fight big time up front this season regardless of the words Down force and tire choices.

**nani_s23** · 3rd July 2020, 06:50

Interesting comments from vettel.

**nani_s23** · 3rd July 2020, 06:57

It’s sadden to see such drivers (Alonso & Vettel) leave ferrari without a title.

**jgonzalesm6** · 3rd July 2020, 07:16

Happy Birthday Seb

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb7kW_iX...jpg&name=small

**jgonzalesm6** · 14th July 2020, 15:52

Just had a funny thought.

Seb jumps into Racing Point for 2021.

Seb beats Ferrari....................................naaaaah hhhhh............................................. .................well...............maybe??

**nani_s23** · 14th July 2020, 16:41

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Just had a funny thought.

Seb jumps into Racing Point for 2021.

Seb beats Ferrari....................................naaaaah hhhhh............................................. .................well...............maybe??

Vettel/RP negotiations are going on. RP are offering Perez “a high million digit amount”

According to "Bild", there is a compensation clause in Perez's contract that RP could use until July 31. According to the report, the contract between Perez and the team could be terminated earlier "for a high single-digit million amount".

Interesting thing Toto is negotiating RP/vettel contract.

**Liscia** · 14th July 2020, 17:25

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Just had a funny thought.

Seb jumps into Racing Point for 2021.

Seb beats Ferrari....................................naaaaah hhhhh............................................. .................well...............maybe??

It really could happen? Racing Point,McLaren and maybe even Red Bull/"Aston-Martin" (by then) will/could have Mercedes power and be in their back rooms?

**KimiBot** · 14th July 2020, 17:33

Daddy Stroll is a businessman, and P2, P3 in WCC is a good business, Seb can help him.

**nani_s23** · 14th July 2020, 17:41

Originally Posted by KimiBot

Daddy Stroll is a businessman, and P2, P3 in WCC is a good business, Seb can help him.

Yeah ... daddy stroll is making a lot for that kid

**jgonzalesm6** · 14th July 2020, 22:19

Originally Posted by nani_s23

Vettel/RP negotiations are going on. RP are offering Perez “a high million digit amount”

According to "Bild", there is a compensation clause in Perez's contract that RP could use until July 31. According to the report, the contract between Perez and the team could be terminated earlier "for a high single-digit million amount".

Interesting thing Toto is negotiating RP/vettel contract.

Here's more info.

Some further information from RTL / BILD article regarding the Vettel/Aston Martin rumors: Bild reported that both sides are negotiating and that an agreement "is expected". RTL sources say there is no agreement (at least not yet).

According to "Bild", there is a compensation clause in Perez's contract that RP could use until July 31. According to the report, the contract between Perez and the team could be terminated earlier "for a high single-digit million amount".

Sky Germany also quotes BILD and adds: "Sky can confirm that the tendency for both Vettel and Aston Martin is strongly pointing towards a cooperation."

(German articles....so google translate)

https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/...ogin.bild.html

https://www.rtl.de/cms/sebastian-vet...n-4578073.html

Also another article from Autosport

F1 News: Vettel considering Aston Martin offer for 2021

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...offer-for-2021

Originally Posted by Liscia

It really could happen? Racing Point,McLaren and maybe even Red Bull/"Aston-Martin" (by then) will/could have Mercedes power and be in their back rooms?

2021 Racing Point takes the sponsor Aston Martin to become Racing Point Aston Martin(??) or just Aston Martin F1(??). RedBull drops the Aston Martin sponsor.

Yeah, Racing Point and Mclaren have made the biggest gains for 2020. Siedl (Mclaren) has really turned that team around....along with Lando.

Originally Posted by KimiBot

Daddy Stroll is a businessman, and P2, P3 in WCC is a good business, Seb can help him.

Lawrence Stroll, with consortium, is a "Type A" businessman.

Originally Posted by nani_s23

Yeah ... daddy stroll is making a lot for that kid

Lance Stroll not only lacks RACE-CRAFT in a race but IMO, if and when Lance takes over daddy's business, will lack in that dept. as well. He just does'nt come across, at least to me, that "type a" personality.

**paolo lalli** · 15th July 2020, 06:12

Good luck to seb hope it all works out for him and that he secures a seat with Aston Martin no doubt they will be a force 100%.just like every other employee that's been shown the door by Ferrari it usually comes back to bite them you know where big time does the name aldo Costa ring a bell he punished Ferrari single handed.

**nani_s23** · 15th July 2020, 07:07

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Here's more info.

Some further information from RTL / BILD article regarding the Vettel/Aston Martin rumors: Bild reported that both sides are negotiating and that an agreement "is expected". RTL sources say there is no agreement (at least not yet).

According to "Bild", there is a compensation clause in Perez's contract that RP could use until July 31. According to the report, the contract between Perez and the team could be terminated earlier "for a high single-digit million amount".

Sky Germany also quotes BILD and adds: "Sky can confirm that the tendency for both Vettel and Aston Martin is strongly pointing towards a cooperation."

(German articles....so google translate)

https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/...ogin.bild.html

https://www.rtl.de/cms/sebastian-vet...n-4578073.html

Also another article from Autosport

F1 News: Vettel considering Aston Martin offer for 2021

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...offer-for-2021

2021 Racing Point takes the sponsor Aston Martin to become Racing Point Aston Martin(??) or just Aston Martin F1(??). RedBull drops the Aston Martin sponsor.

Yeah, Racing Point and Mclaren have made the biggest gains for 2020. Siedl (Mclaren) has really turned that team around....along with Lando.

Lawrence Stroll, with consortium, is a "Type A" businessman.

Lance Stroll not only lacks RACE-CRAFT in a race but IMO, if and when Lance takes over daddy's business, will lack in that dept. as well. He just does'nt come across, at least to me, that "type a" personality.

Yes ...his race craft is very poor even with a strong car & fresh set of tyres he couldn’t pass Ric.
But poor Perez where does he go from here...

**nani_s23** · 15th July 2020, 09:18

https://f1-insider.com/en/formula1/n...n-future-open/
Vettel-Aston Martin Story

**Vettel165** · 15th July 2020, 10:19

https://www.planetf1.com/news/sebast...sdVP6pZjyF9yi4

Yes Seb hope that is true, it would mean a fresh start and with a mercedes engine. Fingers crossed.

**paolo lalli** · 15th July 2020, 18:10

Aston Martin will be a mercedes clone.It is being prepared in detail to take over from mercedes Benz when they finally leave f1 this will be a transission phase.seb will provide them with all the feed back.Totto wolf does not make bad investments.

**jgonzalesm6** · 15th July 2020, 18:41

ESPN México reports that Checo's agent has been in contact with Haas and Alfa Romeo for *weeks*, which pretty much confirms that Vettel and Lawrence Stroll have held negotiations as reported. Also said that the move will be made official on August 2nd.

(Google translate article)

https://www.espn.com.mx/deporte-moto...g-point-sergio

**nani_s23** · 15th July 2020, 19:42

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

ESPN México reports that Checo's agent has been in contact with Haas and Alfa Romeo for *weeks*, which pretty much confirms that Vettel and Lawrence Stroll have held negotiations as reported. Also said that the move will be made official on August 2nd.

(Google translate article)

https://www.espn.com.mx/deporte-moto...g-point-sergio

It’s reported that Perez as a contract with Haas & RG shown exit.
Official announcement on Aug 2nd

**wisepie** · 16th July 2020, 07:19

I think that's hugely unfair on Sergio, he has shown his strengths over many years when he has a decent car under him.

**Rishu** · 16th July 2020, 07:19

Good opportunity for Vettel I’d say. RP will be a good car to drive, not a championship giving one. And ofcourse again he’ll have an average team mate

**chinmay** · 19th July 2020, 08:57

Mateschitz wants him back to Red Bull

During the Hungarian GP weekend, Mateschitz, the boss of the Anglo-Austrian team, allegedly gave Councilor Helmut Marko the green light to bring the German back to the RB.

**crbassassin** · 22nd July 2020, 15:40

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...paign=widget-2

Vettel is helping Hamilton to spew his Marxist agenda. We need to sack him before he turns Ferrari into a communist propaganda outlet.

**Brembo** · 30th July 2020, 02:57

Originally Posted by crbassassin

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Vettel is helping Hamilton to spew his Marxist agenda. We need to sack him before he turns Ferrari into a communist propaganda outlet.

Lewis is more than likely just asking Seb how he managed his salary while not doing so good points wise.

**Stormsearcher** · 30th July 2020, 04:53

Originally Posted by crbassassin

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...paign=widget-2

Vettel is helping Hamilton to spew his Marxist agenda. We need to sack him before he turns Ferrari into a communist propaganda outlet.

Vettel is just trying to get into Lewis' good books so he can get a Merc seat.

**Brembo** · 30th July 2020, 06:24

Better Seb than Bottas along side Lewis. Enough of Bottas winning a race and on the podium. There's only 5 points between them. Nico beat Lewis by 1 pt. !!

**KimiBot** · 30th July 2020, 10:01

Originally Posted by Brembo

Better Seb than Bottas along side Lewis. Enough of Bottas winning a race and on the podium. There's only 5 points between them. Nico beat Lewis by 1 pt. !!

Actually Nico beat Lewis by 5 points. Kimi beat Lewis by 1 point.

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