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    It will never happen but..... Drivers should go to a pay window on the pit wall after each race . They should then get paid for each race according to where they finish. And the pole setter should get paid for pole pos. DNFs get an agreed pay. Year end 1st, 2nd, 3rd pace finishers get bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    It will never happen but..... Drivers should go to a pay window on the pit wall after each race . They should then get paid for each race according to where they finish. And the pole setter should get paid for pole pos. DNFs get an agreed pay. Year end 1st, 2nd, 3rd pace finishers get bonus.
    I agree, some of these salaries are ridiculous
    They should have a standard set salary, say 5-10 mil Max, and then every time they win a race, pole position, fastest lap...etc they get a satisfactory pay, say 100k per win....now that’s an incentive to go for pole, win and fastest lap

    That way the team has more money to pay employees as well develop the car better.....but what do I know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    I agree, some of these salaries are ridiculous
    They should have a standard set salary, say 5-10 mil Max, and then every time they win a race, pole position, fastest lap...etc they get a satisfactory pay, say 100k per win....now that’s an incentive to go for pole, win and fastest lap

    That way the team has more money to pay employees as well develop the car better.....but what do I know?
    You know allot! I wouldn't mind working for you!!!! That last sentence is right on "The Money! "

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    Drivers should take voluntary paycuts, I mean even if they can take 20-25% cut, it might help so many to hold their jobs and even team can invest in producing faster car. I mean what good is a 20-30m salary if your team is collapsing, employees getting fired, car getting slower? If this sport has given you so much, time to give it back something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rishu View Post
    Drivers should take voluntary paycuts, I mean even if they can take 20-25% cut, it might help so many to hold their jobs and even team can invest in producing faster car. I mean what good is a 20-30m salary if your team is collapsing, employees getting fired, car getting slower? If this sport has given you so much, time to give it back something
    Wise words indeed, it's the same story in any professional sport, especially football, if this pandemic teaches us anything, the people on the lowest pay scales are those who have kept daily life functioning these past few months.

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    F2's Mazepin's father looks to bail out the Renault F1 team amidst "crisis" mode.

    He does'nt have his Superlicense yet, but that will make 3 billionaire sons in F1....Stroll, Latifi, and quite possibly Mazepin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rishu View Post
    Drivers should take voluntary paycuts, I mean even if they can take 20-25% cut, it might help so many to hold their jobs and even team can invest in producing faster car. I mean what good is a 20-30m salary if your team is collapsing, employees getting fired, car getting slower? If this sport has given you so much, time to give it back something
    I have to believe all those millions $$ in the drivers bank account to take care of him and his family for the rest of their life is what counts. The sport is that, a sport to us fans, to the drivers and teams big shots it's a job that pays big. It can never be denied that drivers put their life on the line @ 200 MPH.

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    Mick Schumi is tipped to replace Kimi at Alfa R.
    Hope he shows some promise & get a chance to drive Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/sta...39046403620864


    Not looking good for Mclaren (& Renault). Also I don't really get how they can fire 25% of their workforce while justifying Ricciardo's 30M paycheck.
    Ricciardo agreed hefty pay cut for McLaren move
    https://www.planetf1.com/news/daniel...claren-salary/


    Ricciardo only taking 10 million.

    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    I agree, some of these salaries are ridiculous
    They should have a standard set salary, say 5-10 mil Max, and then every time they win a race, pole position, fastest lap...etc they get a satisfactory pay, say 100k per win....now that’s an incentive to go for pole, win and fastest lap

    That way the team has more money to pay employees as well develop the car better.....but what do I know?
    Looks like Mclaren listened to your ideas lol -

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    After budget cap, there should be a driver salary-cap as well. Paying anyone more than 10-15M is an obnoxious number. F1 by nature is a car-dominated sport. Mercedes even without Hamilton, would have no problem securing WDC-WCC's if the car remains fastest and reliable. But Hamilton, no matter how good he is, not going to win WDC's while driving a Williams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    After budget cap, there should be a driver salary-cap as well. Paying anyone more than 10-15M is an obnoxious number. F1 by nature is a car-dominated sport. Mercedes even without Hamilton, would have no problem securing WDC-WCC's if the car remains fastest and reliable. But Hamilton, no matter how good he is, not going to win WDC's while driving a Williams.
    Very well put. The more a driver makes does not automatically equate to a WDC.
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    REVEALED: The key performance area being closed off as F1 trims 2021 downforce levels

    Some key points:

    2021 cars will be 0.5sec/lap slower, achieved by "trimming/clipping" the floor
    Same compounds of tyres to be used (2019 Pirelli's)
    No 18-inch wheels
    Chassis and suspension will stay fixed from 2020 to 2021
    No restrictions on developing front-rear wings, diffuser, barge board

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    Quote Originally Posted by nani_s23 View Post
    Mick Schumi is tipped to replace Kimi at Alfa R.
    Hope he shows some promise & get a chance to drive Ferrari.
    Actually, GIO is to be replaced in that scenario.

    https://www.planetf1.com/news/mick-s...nick-heidfeld/

    Brembo is gonna lose his marbles if that happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    After budget cap, there should be a driver salary-cap as well. Paying anyone more than 10-15M is an obnoxious number. F1 by nature is a car-dominated sport. Mercedes even without Hamilton, would have no problem securing WDC-WCC's if the car remains fastest and reliable. But Hamilton, no matter how good he is, not going to win WDC's while driving a Williams.
    LOL that will only happen after a certain LH44 retires :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    After budget cap, there should be a driver salary-cap as well. Paying anyone more than 10-15M is an obnoxious number. F1 by nature is a car-dominated sport. Mercedes even without Hamilton, would have no problem securing WDC-WCC's if the car remains fastest and reliable. But Hamilton, no matter how good he is, not going to win WDC's while driving a Williams.
    Why? A driver's pay is whatever the team hiring him deems he is worth. He sells his services just like anyone else. Supply and demand.

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    I feel like the more we restrict development, the more difficult it will be for anyone to dethrone Merc.
    We've been through all that token/limited upgrade thing, and we saw how that turn out.

    A budget cap (if done properly) with more development freedom, will encourage teams to come up with more efficient development method.
    The team that can make the most out of the allocated budget will be rewarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Why? A driver's pay is whatever the team hiring him deems he is worth. He sells his services just like anyone else. Supply and demand.
    There is a problem when your team budget is 140 mn and one team member is 60mn.
    That eventually will crush the ethic of the sport and the team altogether.
    This is why eventually it will be regulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    I feel like the more we restrict development, the more difficult it will be for anyone to dethrone Merc.
    We've been through all that token/limited upgrade thing, and we saw how that turn out.

    A budget cap (if done properly) with more development freedom, will encourage teams to come up with more efficient development method.
    The team that can make the most out of the allocated budget will be rewarded.
    Agreed and yet isn't ferrari who agreed to the regulations ? We blamed Luca D. last time.
    Now who is to blame ?
    For me it is time to get in other series as well if anything else to show that we are not just f1 dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Why? A driver's pay is whatever the team hiring him deems he is worth. He sells his services just like anyone else. Supply and demand.
    agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by aroutis View Post
    There is a problem when your team budget is 140 mn and one team member is 60mn.
    That eventually will crush the ethic of the sport and the team altogether.
    This is why eventually it will be regulated.

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    Driver's pay is not included in the $145 million budget cap. Regarldless, sponsorship money is included in the driver's pay as well...... i.e. Alonso with Santander.
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    Sooooo, another Ferrari employee goes to Mercedes F1

    "Giacomo Tortora (who previously worked at Ferrari, he was the head of simulator work) has joined Mercedes.

    From 01.06.2020, Tortora is the deputy chief designer at Mercedes."

    https://twitter.com/Motorsport_IT/st...92897712832512


    Also,

    So according to reports from Germany, apparently Toto will withdraw from his team principal role at Mercedes, but still be involved at the racing team. Possibly as a member of the supervisory board.

    Motorsport-Article: "This news is considered reliable."

    https://twitter.com/MST_ChristianN/s...22394868764672
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    R.I.P. F1 again no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aroutis View Post
    Actually, GIO is to be replaced in that scenario.

    https://www.planetf1.com/news/mick-s...nick-heidfeld/

    Brembo is gonna lose his marbles if that happens
    Brembo won't be alone if GIO gets the push in favour of Mick, I appreciate that GIO needs to up his game to keep his seat, Alfa also need to provide him with the car to show he can do it. He was mostly as quick as Kimi in the second half of 2019, and I don't believe Mick is ready for F1 and hasn't set the world alight in F2 like a certain Charles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aroutis View Post
    There is a problem when your team budget is 140 mn and one team member is 60mn.
    That eventually will crush the ethic of the sport and the team altogether.
    This is why eventually it will be regulated.

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    As jgonzalesm6 said, drivers' pay isn't part of the cost cap. As for smaller teams; if you can't afford to pay, don't play.

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    Exclusive! Mercedes-future: Wolff to leave chief-role, but …

    The puzzle pieces for the Formula 1 future of Mercedes are falling. Team boss Toto Wolff will resign after his contract has expired. The future of Mercedes’ F1 team is in the making

    The future of Mercedes in Formula 1 is being lashed behind the scenes. One piece of the puzzle fell in the process: As F1-Insider.com has learned exclusively, team boss Toto Wolff will resign from his operational role at the head of the factory team after the end of his contract and switch to the team’s supervisory board.

    According to our information, it is not yet clear who will become his successor. Wolff had recently indicated that he was thinking about his role in the team: “It’s not just about whether I am now extending my contract as team leader, but what we are going to do with this joint company.”

    The Viennese now owns 30 percent of the shares in the Mercedes factory team, the rest is owned by the Daimler group. Mercedes has recently repeatedly committed itself to F1. In no contradiction to this: According to F1-Insider-information, Wolff and his friend Lawrence Stroll are set to take over even more shares. That would also mean the end of the Mercedes-worksteam as it is now.


    The Canadian billionaire has held a 25 percent stake in British car maker Aston Martin, which Wolff also owns, since the beginning of the year. A Tuesday staffing could outline a possible route. Ex-AMG boss Tobias Moers was officially announced as the new boss of Aston Martin. Moers is one of the closest confidants of Daimler CEO Ola Källenius. With the help of Mercedes and AMG technology, the he is supposed to get the traditional British brand back on track and compete with Ferrari.


    An exchange transaction is could come into play so that Daimler, which previously owns five percent of the traditional English brand, can increase its stake in Aston Martin. The idea that is being discussed in the scene: Daimler receives Stroll’s Aston Martin shares in return for shares in the Formula 1 team. This means: Stroll and Wolff will be the majority owners of the F1-team.

    Mercedes could kill two birds with one stone: Get out of F1 as the majority owner of the team and thus also meet the corona-related financial challenges in the automotive industry without having to fire employees of the Formula 1 factory in Brackley. The then Stroll team could even continue as a Mercedes factory team.

    This goes with current statements by Mercedes spokesmen that Daimler’s “clear intention is to continue as a Mercedes-Benz factory team in Formula 1.” A specific request from F1-Insider.com about Wolff’s future role remained unanswered.

    What would happen to Stroll’s Formula 1 team Racing Point (from 2021 as Aston Martin) remains unclear. It is quite possible that it will be used as a B team. A merger with the ex-Mercedes factory team or a sale are also conceivable.


    One thing is certain: the teams have to refinance themselves. Mercedes, Stroll, Wolff and Aston Martin put the new budget ceiling of 145 million euros from 2020 and the developments towards more financial sustainability in Formula 1 into the cards. Even more: Insiders believe that this will even make money in the future – even with two teams.


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    Toto hints Bottas move to Renault/ Bottas management in talks with RB & Renault.
    Source: essentiallysports.com

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    Williams F1, 42years of F1 history, is considering selling a part or the whole company.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZKwKnsVcAAdghv.jpg


    https://www.motorsportweek.com/2020/...m-up-for-sale/
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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    As jgonzalesm6 said, drivers' pay isn't part of the cost cap. As for smaller teams; if you can't afford to pay, don't play.
    You have missed the point that I made. Yes I know that drivers are not part of the cost cap.
    But look at what is happening, because of the cost cap, McLaren for isntance is "losing" 1.400 people.
    More teams are going to follow suit, because of it.
    Meanwhile, drivers are insulated because of the rules.

    Do you really think this is not going to cause friction in the team?

    And meanwhile, it is you that miss the plot, the cost reduction rules are now official and in place so that the small teams can play with the big guns, so no the "if you can't afford to pay" is out of scope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Williams F1, 42years of F1 history, is considering selling a part or the whole company.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZKwKnsVcAAdghv.jpg


    https://www.motorsportweek.com/2020/...m-up-for-sale/
    Williams has also terminated sponsorship deal with ROKiT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wisepie View Post
    Brembo won't be alone if GIO gets the push in favour of Mick, I appreciate that GIO needs to up his game to keep his seat, Alfa also need to provide him with the car to show he can do it. He was mostly as quick as Kimi in the second half of 2019, and I don't believe Mick is ready for F1 and hasn't set the world alight in F2 like a certain Charles.
    OK Wisepie, Aroutis, 1/2 pound of linguini with clams and a bottle of red wine calmed me down. Besides me; just a fan; imagine Binotto!! How will he tell Charles to let Mick pass!! Or the opposite? " Schumacher; let Charles pass! What I would want is for Kimi to either retire as the great driver he is or relocate with another team. Keep in mind Gio was along side a legend in his own right in a Alfa car. As you say; 2nd half Gio was right up there with Kimi. Now put Mick in Kimi's seat as Gio's team mate and see how they do. Let the better driver come forward with results. Then and only then should that seat @ Ferrari be given. I'm sure even Charles will feel good knowing the better of the two got to be his partner. Carlos can take the vacant seat at Alfa. I truly believe Mick to Merc is the right , best move whenever he graduates to F-1. He will be at home from day one. Germany =s Merc=s Schumacher! Italia=s Ferrari=s Antonio G ! Both are top teams . Gio has F-1 experience , as you so well said it, Mick was , is no Charles @ F-2.

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    Although it seems counter-intuitive, the best way to maintain F1's role as the peak of motor sport racing and to enable low budget teams to be competitive is to remove as many regulations as possible. The less regs the more you release innovation and creativity.

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