StyrianGP 2020 Practices and Qualifying

**jgonzalesm6** · 11th July 2020, 17:46

Originally Posted by Christopher

3 Place Pen for Charles. Starts 14th.

Out of the frying pan, and into the fire.

Let's see how much carving Charles can climb up the field....without attrition of course.....on full merit.

**KimiBot** · 11th July 2020, 18:00

Originally Posted by Aziz

We are far from Merc and RB but the good thing is we are not far from Williams

that was funny

**Liscia** · 11th July 2020, 18:05

I'll be happy if there is no incident between our two drivers and at least gaining a few points. Hope that's not too much to wish for.......

**stefa** · 11th July 2020, 18:07

https://www.ferrari.com/en-RS/formula1/year-1980

For the younger ones here to learn how bad it was and can be...

**Aziz** · 11th July 2020, 18:14

Originally Posted by stefa

https://www.ferrari.com/en-RS/formula1/year-1980

For the younger ones here to learn how bad it was and can be...

All the same, 8th 5th.......I guess will have to wait 8 more years to have a real challenger. #FERRRARIGP2 #ESSEREGP2

**FerrariF60** · 11th July 2020, 18:18

Originally Posted by Aziz

All the same, 8th 5th.......I guess will have to wait 8 more years to have a real challenger. #FERRRARIGP2 #ESSEREGP2

GP2 engine, GP2 engine.....Enzo is prolly rolling in his grave....

**jgonzalesm6** · 11th July 2020, 18:18

Will we see the same thing in F1 tomorrow during the podium finish??

https://twitter.com/ingastrackef1/st...08466165506049

**330 p4** · 11th July 2020, 18:43

[QUOTE=jgonzalesm6;1027777]Will we see the same thing in F1 tomorrow during the podium

Just checked the speed trap data and the trophy table is above Ferrari powered teams.

**jgonzalesm6** · 11th July 2020, 19:04

Originally Posted by 330 p4

Just checked the speed trap data and the trophy table is above Ferrari powered teams.

**Timpolidori** · 11th July 2020, 19:12

As sad as it is, we probably need to leave F1 to save the brand as this is showing that we haven't got a clue. Be funny to see the viewing figures without us though, and prize money

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**paolo lalli** · 11th July 2020, 19:22

Good point the Ferrari brand is now under the spotlite for all of the wrong reasons. Basically Ferrari do not have a car for this season they can put on all the crap parts they want it will fail you need horse power and all Ferrari have is a prancing donkey.

**nani_s23** · 11th July 2020, 19:25

Shwartzman, is he part of our FDA ?? Amazing drive.
Alfa or haas need to grab him ASAP. Next gen star in the making

**nani_s23** · 11th July 2020, 19:28

Binotto: "We worked very hard to bring updates to the car earlier than planned, but they didn’t show their worth on track.

We have to work out why and change this state of affairs, which is just not good enough for a team by the name of Ferrari."

"We mustn't get het up about it, but we cannot ignore the facts."

"In two qualifying sessions, albeit in different conditions, we have not been competitive, not only against those who have been our closets rivals over the past few years, but also against others, who up to yesterday were generally behind us."

**JPZ** · 11th July 2020, 19:29

Originally Posted by Timpolidori

As sad as it is, we probably need to leave F1 to save the brand as this is showing that we haven't got a clue. Be funny to see the viewing figures without us though, and prize money

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Ferrari mentioned competing in IndyCar, in order to keep their staff and use the rest of their budget due to the budget cap, which will probably include producing an engine and chasis for the sport.

If Ferrari did leave, then F1 is finished for me, I will switch to IndyCar.

F1 would probably be finished too, unless Ferrari and other teams created a rival championship, as they have threatened to do in the past. In hindsight, they should have.

**nani_s23** · 11th July 2020, 19:30

ORF: Niki Lauda has often said that in his time at Ferrari, even if you are a world champion, you can find yourself in merciless situation there. Now that you are leaving, do you feel like you are getting pushed out?

Vettel: "No. In all fairness no."
"It would help me if Niki was still around so I could ask him. He always said what he thought. I still believe that there is no bad intent on the team side. I believe that everything I have received from team over the past years, I want to give that back. That is my goal"

The deadline [of the decision of his future]?

Vettel: "Would be good to know before the start of the new season [laughs]."

**Aziz** · 11th July 2020, 19:30

Originally Posted by nani_s23

Binotto: "We worked very hard to bring updates to the car earlier than planned, but they didn’t show their worth on track.

We have to work out why and change this state of affairs, which is just not good enough for a team by the name of Ferrari."

"We mustn't get het up about it, but we cannot ignore the facts."

Will they ever understand anything, like ever

**JPZ** · 11th July 2020, 19:33

Originally Posted by Aziz

Will they ever understand anything, like ever

It's the same story, over and over.

**FerrariF60** · 11th July 2020, 19:33

Binotto: "We worked very hard to bring updates to the car earlier than planned, but they didn’t show their worth on track.

We have to work out why and change this state of affairs, which is just not good enough for a team by the name of Ferrari."

**nani_s23** · 11th July 2020, 19:39

Originally Posted by Aziz

Will they ever understand anything, like ever

I’m seeing another Stefano Domenicali in the making.

**JPZ** · 11th July 2020, 19:45

Politically, in terms of dealing with the other teams and FIA, Ferrari seems to be lacking.

**Schumiklub** · 11th July 2020, 19:46

I don’t know how they can’t understand a car they worked on for at least a year?! Always the same issues, always the same excuses. I haven’t been this depressed in years. I was more optimistic in 1996. 2005 is close to this year as far as expectations go. I doubt we’ll win anything this year.

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**JPZ** · 11th July 2020, 19:47

Originally Posted by Schumiklub

I don’t know how they can’t understand a car they worked on for at least a year?! Always the same issues, always the same excuses. I haven’t been this depressed in years. I was more optimistic in 1996. 2005 is close to this year as far as expectations go. I doubt we’ll win anything this year.

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And if the engine stays the same, next year could be another repeat.

**jgonzalesm6** · 11th July 2020, 19:53

Ferrari went 19yrs without winning. From 1980 to 1999.

Enzo died in 1988.

Then in 2000, Schumacher along with the Benetton team moved over to Ferrari.

**tifosi1993** · 11th July 2020, 19:55

2017: Start the new formula with a car that got most downforce but an average engine

2018: Car with good downforce and the best engine

2019: Change of direction/concept, the best engine but average downforce

2020: Bad engine and average downforce

I can't believe how can they goof up so much under stable regulation. And now the some old excuses popping up once again, "the aero didn't match our expectations, correlation problems etc etc"

They don't have problems with funding or resources, but lack the right personnel to guide them around. Start hiring from outside again, Mercedes and Red Bull have their people under iron contract, but I'm sure there are talented people out there in Tracing point, Mclaren and Renault who would be more than willing to work for Ferrari.

It's time to clean the house properly. Stop promoting under qualified internal names and start hiring proper talent. Look where Mclaren is right now under James Key's guidance. Enough with the "Spaghetti Culture".

**stefa** · 11th July 2020, 19:56

Originally Posted by Aziz

Will they ever understand anything, like ever

It is like blind leading blind.

**FerrariF60** · 11th July 2020, 19:59

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

2017: Start the new formula with a car that got most downforce but an average engine

2018: Car with good downforce and the best engine

2019: Change of direction/concept, the best engine but average downforce

2020: Bad engine and average downforce

I can't believe how can they goof up so much under stable regulation. And now the some old excuses popping up once again, "the aero didn't match our expectations, correlation problems etc etc"

They don't have problems with funding or resources, but lack the right personnel to guide them around. Start hiring from outside again, Mercedes and Red Bull got their people under iron contract, but I'm sure there are talented people out there in Tracing point, Mclaren and Renault who would be more than willing to work for Ferrari.

It's time to clean the house properly. Stop promoting under qualified internal names and start hiring proper talent. Look where Mclaren is right now under James Key's guidance. Enough with the "Spaghetti Culture".

i beg the differ....we ONLY had the best engine because we "cheated"....tricked the sensors and used more fuel in Quali to get pole.....in races we were average at best....due to lack of downforce we couldn't work the tires to their optimum, sliding across the asphalt and wearing them prematurely....

in my opinion, that what sums up the 2019 season....

and now 2020....well we're prolly no better then we were in 2014....weak engine and weak chassis

**Ferrarichamp** · 11th July 2020, 20:27

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

Ferrari went 19yrs without winning. From 1980 to 1999.

Enzo died in 1988.

Then in 2000, Schumacher along with the Benetton team moved over to Ferrari.

1982+1983 WCC
Michael went to Ferrari in 1996.