Hungarian GP 2020 Practices and Qualifying

[Redfive]

I think sadly at this point Sainz is regretting his decision.

[330 p4]

Merc engines all smoking and all Merc teams have an incredible leap in performance relative to who they are normally battling. This is not a power circuit but the unusual pace increase by ALL Merc teams this weekend? It's so suspicious. Ferrari with their drag issues are not to bad on straights relative to Renautl and Honda teams, chassis must be quite good as S3 2nd only to the Mercs. Looks like Red Bull have a bit of a crisis this weekend.

[Redfive]

Merc engines all smoking and all Merc teams have an incredible leap in performance relative to who they are normally battling. This is not a power circuit but the unusual pace increase by ALL Merc teams this weekend? It's so suspicious. Ferrari with their drag issues are not to bad on straights relative to Renautl and Honda teams, chassis must be quite good as S3 2nd only to the Mercs. Looks like Red Bull have a bit of a crisis this weekend.

Mercedes are allowed to cheat though, don't you know that? They are the FIA's goldenboys

[chinmay]

New controversy in the paddock. Due to a loophole in the homologation rules Racing Point might be allowed to upgrade next years car with Mercedes 2020 gearbox & suspension without having to spend any tokens.

AMus

McLaren getting Mercedes engines next year, they may be looking to sign up too.

[tifosi1993]

Merc engines all smoking and all Merc teams have an incredible leap in performance relative to who they are normally battling. This is not a power circuit but the unusual pace increase by ALL Merc teams this weekend? It's so suspicious. Ferrari with their drag issues are not to bad on straights relative to Renautl and Honda teams, chassis must be quite good as S3 2nd only to the Mercs. Looks like Red Bull have a bit of a crisis this weekend.

Yeah...such a great chassis, "only 3 tenths" away from Mercedes and less than a tenth ahead of RP, while giving away 5 tenths in sector 1 and 2.

If the car was neck-neck with Mercedes in sector 2 and 3, then sure, we could say that Ferrari produced a great chassis. But that's CLEARLY not the case.

[ferrari1.8t]

Merc engines all smoking and all Merc teams have an incredible leap in performance relative to who they are normally battling. This is not a power circuit but the unusual pace increase by ALL Merc teams this weekend? It's so suspicious. Ferrari with their drag issues are not to bad on straights relative to Renautl and Honda teams, chassis must be quite good as S3 2nd only to the Mercs. Looks like Red Bull have a bit of a crisis this weekend.

The FIA gave them our secrets, and then told us we aren’t allowed to use our engine? What a joke to be that far ahead.

[KimiBot]

Stroll and Perez are no rookies, so Seb and Charles has mission impossible tomorrow, so P5 and P6 is best what we can get.

[patrese86]

You see Mercedes now creating a monopoly over Formula one. Next year you get McLaren with Mercedes engine, probably get a few drawings from them. So eventually you have one engine supplier ie mercedes.

[nani_s23]

Merc engines all smoking and all Merc teams have an incredible leap in performance relative to who they are normally battling. This is not a power circuit but the unusual pace increase by ALL Merc teams this weekend? It's so suspicious. Ferrari with their drag issues are not to bad on straights relative to Renautl and Honda teams, chassis must be quite good as S3 2nd only to the Mercs. Looks like Red Bull have a bit of a crisis this weekend.

ferrari car has got avg aero with worst engine. Drivers are trying to do their best.
If S1 & S2 are killing us here. Then think of silverstone/Monza/ other GP’s where straight line speed is imp.

[TTRSMAD]

This is going to be a frustrating season to watch. Nobody can come close to dethroning Mercedes and Hamilton. All thanks to the FIA and Ferrari incompetence.

Ferrari last year got too greedy pushing the engine loop hole too far and making everybody suspicious. Mercedes knew last year that Ferrari was cheating but could not prove it until the whistleblower came along.

What a disaster for Ferrari fans everywhere.

[WS6TransAm01]

Who says money can’t buy you happiness?

People without money

There's no way that Mercedes is legal.

Just as legal as last year’s Ferrari engine, only difference is clout. We ain’t got any.

[nani_s23]

Stroll and Perez are no rookies, so Seb and Charles has mission impossible tomorrow, so P5 and P6 is best what we can get.

We are starting on S & they on M. Let’s give a try nothing to loose. As overtaking is very tight around here. Need to make everything count. I think if Lec/vettel play smart & understand each other. One of our car can be on podium.

[tifosi1993]

Stroll and Perez are no rookies, so Seb and Charles has mission impossible tomorrow, so P5 and P6 is best what we can get.

Race-pace wise, we can battle with them, since we got better drivers and the Mercedes "party mode" will not be available during the race.

[wappad]

I think our last years engine is in the back of the Mercedes- powered cars now !

Well done Seb and Charles. In front of the Red Bulls. The Ziggo-Team in the Netherlands is flabbergasted

Have fun tomorrow forum!

Forza Ferrari

[WS6TransAm01]

ferrari car has got avg aero with worst engine. Drivers are trying to do their best.
If S1 & S2 are killing us here. Then think of silverstone/Monza/ other GP’s where straight line speed is imp.

Ferrari won’t get into Q3 in Monza.

[tanvirf1]

At last our Ferrari on FRONT ROW!!!!!! (Driven by human made engine)

1-4 position locked by allien made engine

[KimiBot]

Race-pace wise, we can battle with them, since we got better drivers and the Mercedes "party mode" will not be available during the race.

Optimist

[Vettel165]

New controversy in the paddock. Due to a loophole in the homologation rules Racing Point might be allowed to upgrade next years car with Mercedes 2020 gearbox & suspension without having to spend any tokens.

AMus

ferrari car has got avg aero with worst engine. Drivers are trying to do their best.
If S1 & S2 are killing us here. Then think of silverstone/Monza/ other GP’s where straight line speed is imp.

In Monza Spa we will be 2 seconds of Mercedes.

[tanvirf1]

At last our Ferrari on FRONT ROW!!!!!! (Driven by human made engine)

1-4 position locked by allien made engine

[chinmay]

Ferrari won’t get into Q3 in Monza.

You misspelt Q2.

[nani_s23]

Vettel after qualifying: It is better than in Austria. The car seemed better balanced and this track is also more suitable for us, having fewer straights. Certainly, however, we still have to improve.

[PURE PASSION]

I usually dont like to blame others for my mistakes/bad performance and so I do it for the team I love. I dont like to blame Mercs / RedBulls / McLarens etc every time we are not managing to create a winning car. More or less did it this year,but now it looks so but SO suspicious the performance leap for Mercedes and Mercedes powered cars, and on top of that when you see smoke coming from the back of all Merc powered cars, then I also start thinking that ok we did a bad job BUT what the hell are they doing. They cant make SO much progress under the same ryles, with directives on the engines etc !!!!!?????
And forget about us, what about RedBull?????
Last year ,when it started being obvious that we have a top engine, everybody start shouting left and right that we must have done something illegal!!! Even if it was obvious that we had a very efficient car with bad downforce and no drag,they still didnt accept it and keep asking FIA to check our engine!!!!!
WHAT NOW ????

[tifosi1993]

Optimist

Of course.

[nani_s23]

At last our Ferrari on FRONT ROW!!!!!! (Driven by human made engine)

1-4 position locked by allien made engine

yeah we can look in that way as well

[nani_s23]

I usually dont like to blame others for my mistakes/bad performance and so I do it for the team I love. I dont like to blame Mercs / RedBulls / McLarens etc every time we are not managing to create a winning car. More or less did it this year,but now it looks so but SO suspicious the performance leap for Mercedes and Mercedes powered cars, and on top of that when you see smoke coming from the back of all Merc powered cars, then I also start thinking that ok we did a bad job BUT what the hell are they doing. They cant make SO much progress under the same ryles, with directives on the engines etc !!!!!?????
And forget about us, what about RedBull?????
Last year ,when it started being obvious that we have a top engine, everybody start shouting left and right that we must have done something illegal!!! Even if it was obvious that we had a very efficient car with bad downforce and no drag,they still didnt accept it and keep asking FIA to check our engine!!!!!
WHAT NOW ????

RB didn’t find the right set up this weekend. So it’s a trouble weekend for them. As their expectations are high.
As far as ferrari we are keeping low & we did well given the car.

[stefa]

1.3 seconds down. Good job Ferrari!

For the good of the sport? Right?

I bet, even with thise difference, Mercedes is just toying with everyone else, mening if they turn their engine 100%, they would lap the entire field!
But as you said, it is god fot the sport! In some very twisted way, it is good they are driving without spectators, as it is so much entertaining! Sarcasm off!

[Ferrarichamp]

I think sadly at this point Sainz is regretting his decision.

why? when was the last time Mclaren won anything?

[chinmay]

why? when was the last time Mclaren won anything?

2012. But next year is when they start winning podiums again.

[tifosi1993]

I'd say this: Luca's "Italianization" project, and Ferrari sticking to it, really giving us the expected results. Ferrari getting what it deserves, when you forced out some immanently talented people, and promote under-qualified people whose main selling points are that "they are from Italy", what else can you expect.

Mercedes is an well oiled machine, they don't have Ferrari-like politics, they don't sack people for it, and they certainly don't undervalue and underappreciate their people. That's why they are at the top, and will remain so.

[WS6TransAm01]

You misspelt Q2.

I think Ferrari can get one driver out of Q1 in Monza if they try real hard.

I bet, even with thise difference, Mercedes is just toying with everyone else, mening if they turn their engine 100%, they would lap the entire field!
But as you said, it is god fot the sport! In some very twisted way, it is good they are driving without spectators, as it is so much entertaining! Sarcasm off!

Just like they did in previous years. As soon as someone got close, then just turned it up a bit more and sailed off into the distance.

If you think by some magic 2022+ will be any different, I doubt it. Not with the current culture at Ferrari.